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  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

    I saw the pictures they are very cute:)

    Ed.Poore wrote:

    I'd recommend not getting a rescue one as you don't know what past it's got.

    That's strange most people are advising me to get an "house broken" dog. I was planning to go the the county rescue center. I was thinking that I should get a trained dog as I may not have enough time to train the dog (nor any experience).


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    Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

    get a trained dog as I may not have enough time to train the dog (nor any experience)

    Crate training does take some time and patience.

    Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

    county rescue center

    We found our Yellow Lab at one and he was already trained (with his papers, too - a rarity at rescue places). The animal shelter/pound may be able to refer you to rescue groups that target Golden Retrievers specifically. Golden retriever rescue - google search[^] might be a start. See if there is one in your area :-D


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    • E Ed Poore

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      Get a puppy from a pound

      As it's the first dog I wouldn't because you don't know how it's going to act, especially if there's a young kid in the house. While I agree with helping dogs from the pound in this instance I would advise against it, we didn't go that route because of the farm animals so wanted complete control over the training.


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      Well with a puppy you should be fine and you can get a gauge of it's temperament as it's growing up before it ever becomes an issue. Both our dogs from the pound were a year+ in age and I'm definitely not recommending that, it takes a little more time effort and knowledge to adopt an older dog from the pound.

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      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

        My two year old daughter loves dogs. In particular, she is fond of Golden Retrievers (which is also my favorite breed of dogs). I want to get her a dog or a puppy but I have zero experience in this area as I never had a pet in my life. So I need some advice on how to find a good dog (I am only looking for Golden Retrievers) and what to expect afterwards in terms of time, money and commitment. Are there any other tips for newbie dog owners? I simply have no idea where to start?


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        1st thing you may want to do is check an alergist to make she has no alergies. It's better to find out early, before it's too late.

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          That's a shame, not only that but dogs kept alone away from humans, and especially those kept on a leash or tie down have a definite tendency to be more aggressive.

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          Andy Brummer wrote:

          That's a shame

          Yep. On one cold night they got out of the yard and I brought them in for a while. Not a smart idea for little dogs running around in my area since it is prone to bob cats, mountain lions, black bears and coyotes :) One was a little Miniature Doberman and the other was some long haired mutt.


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          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

            My two year old daughter loves dogs. In particular, she is fond of Golden Retrievers (which is also my favorite breed of dogs). I want to get her a dog or a puppy but I have zero experience in this area as I never had a pet in my life. So I need some advice on how to find a good dog (I am only looking for Golden Retrievers) and what to expect afterwards in terms of time, money and commitment. Are there any other tips for newbie dog owners? I simply have no idea where to start?


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            I recommend you watch at least one of Cesar Millan's DVDs of his National Geographic series. It teaches you how to condition your dog to see you as his "pack leader" instead of the other way around. It will help you have a psychologically stable and happy pet. Regards, Alvaro


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              Isn't chocolate considered poisonous to dogs?

              I don't know. I never feed my dog chocolate. You could buy carrob buttons as a dog treat, but I didn't get him that all that often - I usually went for dog biscuits. What I was really getting at was anything sweet and sugary that is likely to cause dental problems.


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              Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

              I never feed my dog chocolate.

              Good. My aunt made fudge brownies one time with doubled up chocolate and her Aussie Shepard Dog got a hold of the tray, ate all of the brownies and got very, very sick from it.


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              • A Alvaro Mendez

                I recommend you watch at least one of Cesar Millan's DVDs of his National Geographic series. It teaches you how to condition your dog to see you as his "pack leader" instead of the other way around. It will help you have a psychologically stable and happy pet. Regards, Alvaro


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                Wow - I've had no trouble with this, ever.  Our current dog, I am not too fond of.  I don't like small dogs.  I treat it well, as I should, but I don't seek it out.  It follows me around everywhere, it is sure I am the pack leader.  In fact, all the animals come to me first, to the disgust of my wife.

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                  The main tip ( from the man recently accused of animal cruelty ) If you're gonna get a big dog, make sure that you're ready to take care of it.  The larger the dog, the more exercise it needs.  IMO, getting a big dog if you don't have a big yard is cruel, unless you're also willing to spend an hour a day walking it.  Either way, make sure that if your child loses interest in the animal that you're willing to take up the slack and pay it the attention it will desire, for it's entire life.  That means more than feeding it and perhaps giving it a pat twice a day as you walk past.  Buying an animal means committing yourself to both it's welfare and it's happiness for about 20 years.  Think carefully about that committment, it may well extend beyond when your daughter leaves home ( depending on her age ) and when she's a teenager, the odds are good she will be out with friends, not looking after the dog.  Assuming it lasts that long.  We have a dog, two cats and a rabbit, and my daughter is still asking for other pets, but spends no time with the ones we have ( the rabbit is the only one bought just for her, the dog was dumped by the side of the road ( not planned ), and the cats were bought by my wife, for my wife ).

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                  5'ed.

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                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                    My two year old daughter loves dogs. In particular, she is fond of Golden Retrievers (which is also my favorite breed of dogs). I want to get her a dog or a puppy but I have zero experience in this area as I never had a pet in my life. So I need some advice on how to find a good dog (I am only looking for Golden Retrievers) and what to expect afterwards in terms of time, money and commitment. Are there any other tips for newbie dog owners? I simply have no idea where to start?


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                    Find your local Golden retriever Rescue group and adopt a dog from them. My wife and I volunteer for the Austin GRR organization and there are plenty of dogs that are young enough (and housebroken) to be a companion to your daughter for most of her childhood. Goldens are moderately high-energy and need regular exercise (daily walking). They also need regular brushing. We have three Goldens ourself. Keep in mind that most/all rescue groups will not adopt a dog to people that don't pass a rigorous interview. Most don't allow doggy doors, unfenced yards, or families that intend to leave the dog outside. A dog is like a small child, so count on your level of commitment to be along those lines. Tip: Training is everything. Advice: Consider consulting an animal communicator (seriously, this stuff really works) and have them interview perspective dogs for you. It'll generally cost you $25 for 15 minutes. You can have them ask the dog questions like "Would the dog like to be a member of your family?", or "Does the dog have any problems with children or any other pets you might have?" I kno, it sounds weird, but I swear this works.

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                      1st thing you may want to do is check an alergist to make she has no alergies. It's better to find out early, before it's too late.

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                      ednrgc wrote:

                      1st thing you may want to do is check an alergist to make she has no alergies.

                      On the other hand, exposing a child to potential allergens might help them to develop immunities. As a child, I was always around animals and playing outside in the dirt, and I don't have a single allergy to anything. Of course, my single anecdotal story is not evidence of a cure, but all the "allergic" people I've ever met have not been exposed to these allergens as children. When my son was born (5 years ago) we were advised NOT to bathe him every day, but every other day. The reasoning is that the child needs to be exposed to a bit of dirt in order to develop a healthy immune system. We have 3 dogs and a cat in the house, and none of them bother him. In fact, 2 of the dogs will sneak into his room at night and curl up in bed with him!


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                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                        I saw the pictures they are very cute:)

                        Ed.Poore wrote:

                        I'd recommend not getting a rescue one as you don't know what past it's got.

                        That's strange most people are advising me to get an "house broken" dog. I was planning to go the the county rescue center. I was thinking that I should get a trained dog as I may not have enough time to train the dog (nor any experience).


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                        The only thing to be wary of is that the dog will be trained to someone else it may not understand / want to obey you. Typically the only dogs which will obey people they don't know are those which have been trained by professionals (or more likely gamekeepers / shooters etc who are good with dogs) and are likely to cost more.


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                        • M Miszou

                          ednrgc wrote:

                          1st thing you may want to do is check an alergist to make she has no alergies.

                          On the other hand, exposing a child to potential allergens might help them to develop immunities. As a child, I was always around animals and playing outside in the dirt, and I don't have a single allergy to anything. Of course, my single anecdotal story is not evidence of a cure, but all the "allergic" people I've ever met have not been exposed to these allergens as children. When my son was born (5 years ago) we were advised NOT to bathe him every day, but every other day. The reasoning is that the child needs to be exposed to a bit of dirt in order to develop a healthy immune system. We have 3 dogs and a cat in the house, and none of them bother him. In fact, 2 of the dogs will sneak into his room at night and curl up in bed with him!


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                          Miszou wrote:

                          On the other hand, exposing a child to potential allergens might help them to develop immunities.

                          That all depends on the severity of the allergy, if one exists. Odds are it wont, but it's better to find out before hand. Telling a child that they can't have one in the first place is better than getting one and telling them that he has to go back because they are allergic to them. Unfortunately, I have 1st hand knowledge in this affair.

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                          • realJSOPR realJSOP

                            Find your local Golden retriever Rescue group and adopt a dog from them. My wife and I volunteer for the Austin GRR organization and there are plenty of dogs that are young enough (and housebroken) to be a companion to your daughter for most of her childhood. Goldens are moderately high-energy and need regular exercise (daily walking). They also need regular brushing. We have three Goldens ourself. Keep in mind that most/all rescue groups will not adopt a dog to people that don't pass a rigorous interview. Most don't allow doggy doors, unfenced yards, or families that intend to leave the dog outside. A dog is like a small child, so count on your level of commitment to be along those lines. Tip: Training is everything. Advice: Consider consulting an animal communicator (seriously, this stuff really works) and have them interview perspective dogs for you. It'll generally cost you $25 for 15 minutes. You can have them ask the dog questions like "Would the dog like to be a member of your family?", or "Does the dog have any problems with children or any other pets you might have?" I kno, it sounds weird, but I swear this works.

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                            What's wrong with doggy doors? I can understand the unfenced yards and leaving the dog outside, but I don't see the problem with a dog door...?


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                              What's wrong with doggy doors? I can understand the unfenced yards and leaving the dog outside, but I don't see the problem with a dog door...?


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                              Miszou wrote:

                              What's wrong with doggy doors?

                              I would assume the thinking is that people with doggy doors might be inclined to think that it absolves them from responsibility for walking the dog. After all, if the dog wants to walk it can go walk itself, right?

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                                Andy Brummer wrote:

                                That's a shame

                                Yep. On one cold night they got out of the yard and I brought them in for a while. Not a smart idea for little dogs running around in my area since it is prone to bob cats, mountain lions, black bears and coyotes :) One was a little Miniature Doberman and the other was some long haired mutt.


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                                I had some neighbors in nashville that kept a dog outside like that. They were pretty miserable neighbors that ended up trashing the house they rented. They "befriended" a cat that they claim some previous neighbors left so they fed it without taking it to get spayed. After they left we eventually rounded up the couple of litters of cats and spayed the ones that weren't domesticatable and took the others to an animal shelter.

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                                  I had some neighbors in nashville that kept a dog outside like that. They were pretty miserable neighbors that ended up trashing the house they rented. They "befriended" a cat that they claim some previous neighbors left so they fed it without taking it to get spayed. After they left we eventually rounded up the couple of litters of cats and spayed the ones that weren't domesticatable and took the others to an animal shelter.

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                                  Andy Brummer wrote:

                                  pretty miserable neighbors

                                  This particular neighbor is like that, too. When our neighbor across the street asked her to keep her dogs quiet at night, the neighbor told her to "throw a lobster bone to the dogs for them to chew on." I don't think dogs really care for lobster, and lobsters have shells. It was a fine display of the mentality that we were dealing with :rolleyes:


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                                    Find your local Golden retriever Rescue group and adopt a dog from them. My wife and I volunteer for the Austin GRR organization and there are plenty of dogs that are young enough (and housebroken) to be a companion to your daughter for most of her childhood. Goldens are moderately high-energy and need regular exercise (daily walking). They also need regular brushing. We have three Goldens ourself. Keep in mind that most/all rescue groups will not adopt a dog to people that don't pass a rigorous interview. Most don't allow doggy doors, unfenced yards, or families that intend to leave the dog outside. A dog is like a small child, so count on your level of commitment to be along those lines. Tip: Training is everything. Advice: Consider consulting an animal communicator (seriously, this stuff really works) and have them interview perspective dogs for you. It'll generally cost you $25 for 15 minutes. You can have them ask the dog questions like "Would the dog like to be a member of your family?", or "Does the dog have any problems with children or any other pets you might have?" I kno, it sounds weird, but I swear this works.

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                                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                    I kno, it sounds weird, but I swear this works.

                                    Normally I would say it sounds weird. But I gotta say John, it sounds even weirder coming from you, of all people. ;P

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                                      Find your local Golden retriever Rescue group and adopt a dog from them. My wife and I volunteer for the Austin GRR organization and there are plenty of dogs that are young enough (and housebroken) to be a companion to your daughter for most of her childhood. Goldens are moderately high-energy and need regular exercise (daily walking). They also need regular brushing. We have three Goldens ourself. Keep in mind that most/all rescue groups will not adopt a dog to people that don't pass a rigorous interview. Most don't allow doggy doors, unfenced yards, or families that intend to leave the dog outside. A dog is like a small child, so count on your level of commitment to be along those lines. Tip: Training is everything. Advice: Consider consulting an animal communicator (seriously, this stuff really works) and have them interview perspective dogs for you. It'll generally cost you $25 for 15 minutes. You can have them ask the dog questions like "Would the dog like to be a member of your family?", or "Does the dog have any problems with children or any other pets you might have?" I kno, it sounds weird, but I swear this works.

                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                      that don't pass a rigorous interview

                                      I obviously do not intend to leave the dog oustside but I don't have a fenced yard. Any idea on how much the monthly spending will be on food + vet?

                                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                      animal communicator

                                      That sounds interesting.


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                                        Find your local Golden retriever Rescue group and adopt a dog from them. My wife and I volunteer for the Austin GRR organization and there are plenty of dogs that are young enough (and housebroken) to be a companion to your daughter for most of her childhood. Goldens are moderately high-energy and need regular exercise (daily walking). They also need regular brushing. We have three Goldens ourself. Keep in mind that most/all rescue groups will not adopt a dog to people that don't pass a rigorous interview. Most don't allow doggy doors, unfenced yards, or families that intend to leave the dog outside. A dog is like a small child, so count on your level of commitment to be along those lines. Tip: Training is everything. Advice: Consider consulting an animal communicator (seriously, this stuff really works) and have them interview perspective dogs for you. It'll generally cost you $25 for 15 minutes. You can have them ask the dog questions like "Would the dog like to be a member of your family?", or "Does the dog have any problems with children or any other pets you might have?" I kno, it sounds weird, but I swear this works.

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                                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                        Advice: Consider consulting an animal communicator (seriously, this stuff really works) and have them interview perspective dogs for you. ... You can have them ask the dog questions like "Would the dog like to be a member of your family?", or "Does the dog have any problems with children or any other pets you might have?"

                                        Hitting the egg nog a little early this year John. :)

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                                          My two year old daughter loves dogs. In particular, she is fond of Golden Retrievers (which is also my favorite breed of dogs). I want to get her a dog or a puppy but I have zero experience in this area as I never had a pet in my life. So I need some advice on how to find a good dog (I am only looking for Golden Retrievers) and what to expect afterwards in terms of time, money and commitment. Are there any other tips for newbie dog owners? I simply have no idea where to start?


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                                          We had a Samoyed growing up. http://www.canadasguidetodogs.com/customergraphics/samoyed.jpg[^] http://www.samoyed.ca/history.htm[^] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samoyed_(dog)[^] Pros: - very smart - good with people - no dog smell, ever (no oils in their fur) - does not stay dirty, if she rolled around in the mud we'd just put her in her pen until the mud dried and fell off, didn't need to wash it off - their fur is as soft as cashmere, a friend of my moms spun the (shed) fur and made a hat and mittens for my mom, super soft Cons: - they shed more than any other animal i've seen, white fur everywhere for a couple weeks each year. As for training, do it early, do it right, pay for pro help. Take it to a class with other dogs so it gets used to be commanded with a lot of distractions. When ever you want to give the dog a command say it's name _first_ to get it's attention. Everything it hears up to it's name will likely be lost as just noise.

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