Tips on getting a dog
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Find your local Golden retriever Rescue group and adopt a dog from them. My wife and I volunteer for the Austin GRR organization and there are plenty of dogs that are young enough (and housebroken) to be a companion to your daughter for most of her childhood. Goldens are moderately high-energy and need regular exercise (daily walking). They also need regular brushing. We have three Goldens ourself. Keep in mind that most/all rescue groups will not adopt a dog to people that don't pass a rigorous interview. Most don't allow doggy doors, unfenced yards, or families that intend to leave the dog outside. A dog is like a small child, so count on your level of commitment to be along those lines. Tip: Training is everything. Advice: Consider consulting an animal communicator (seriously, this stuff really works) and have them interview perspective dogs for you. It'll generally cost you $25 for 15 minutes. You can have them ask the dog questions like "Would the dog like to be a member of your family?", or "Does the dog have any problems with children or any other pets you might have?" I kno, it sounds weird, but I swear this works.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001What's wrong with doggy doors? I can understand the unfenced yards and leaving the dog outside, but I don't see the problem with a dog door...?
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ednrgc wrote:
1st thing you may want to do is check an alergist to make she has no alergies.
On the other hand, exposing a child to potential allergens might help them to develop immunities. As a child, I was always around animals and playing outside in the dirt, and I don't have a single allergy to anything. Of course, my single anecdotal story is not evidence of a cure, but all the "allergic" people I've ever met have not been exposed to these allergens as children. When my son was born (5 years ago) we were advised NOT to bathe him every day, but every other day. The reasoning is that the child needs to be exposed to a bit of dirt in order to develop a healthy immune system. We have 3 dogs and a cat in the house, and none of them bother him. In fact, 2 of the dogs will sneak into his room at night and curl up in bed with him!
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Miszou wrote:
On the other hand, exposing a child to potential allergens might help them to develop immunities.
That all depends on the severity of the allergy, if one exists. Odds are it wont, but it's better to find out before hand. Telling a child that they can't have one in the first place is better than getting one and telling them that he has to go back because they are allergic to them. Unfortunately, I have 1st hand knowledge in this affair.
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What's wrong with doggy doors? I can understand the unfenced yards and leaving the dog outside, but I don't see the problem with a dog door...?
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Miszou wrote:
What's wrong with doggy doors?
I would assume the thinking is that people with doggy doors might be inclined to think that it absolves them from responsibility for walking the dog. After all, if the dog wants to walk it can go walk itself, right?
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Andy Brummer wrote:
That's a shame
Yep. On one cold night they got out of the yard and I brought them in for a while. Not a smart idea for little dogs running around in my area since it is prone to bob cats, mountain lions, black bears and coyotes :) One was a little Miniature Doberman and the other was some long haired mutt.
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I had some neighbors in nashville that kept a dog outside like that. They were pretty miserable neighbors that ended up trashing the house they rented. They "befriended" a cat that they claim some previous neighbors left so they fed it without taking it to get spayed. After they left we eventually rounded up the couple of litters of cats and spayed the ones that weren't domesticatable and took the others to an animal shelter.
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I had some neighbors in nashville that kept a dog outside like that. They were pretty miserable neighbors that ended up trashing the house they rented. They "befriended" a cat that they claim some previous neighbors left so they fed it without taking it to get spayed. After they left we eventually rounded up the couple of litters of cats and spayed the ones that weren't domesticatable and took the others to an animal shelter.
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Andy Brummer wrote:
pretty miserable neighbors
This particular neighbor is like that, too. When our neighbor across the street asked her to keep her dogs quiet at night, the neighbor told her to "throw a lobster bone to the dogs for them to chew on." I don't think dogs really care for lobster, and lobsters have shells. It was a fine display of the mentality that we were dealing with :rolleyes:
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Find your local Golden retriever Rescue group and adopt a dog from them. My wife and I volunteer for the Austin GRR organization and there are plenty of dogs that are young enough (and housebroken) to be a companion to your daughter for most of her childhood. Goldens are moderately high-energy and need regular exercise (daily walking). They also need regular brushing. We have three Goldens ourself. Keep in mind that most/all rescue groups will not adopt a dog to people that don't pass a rigorous interview. Most don't allow doggy doors, unfenced yards, or families that intend to leave the dog outside. A dog is like a small child, so count on your level of commitment to be along those lines. Tip: Training is everything. Advice: Consider consulting an animal communicator (seriously, this stuff really works) and have them interview perspective dogs for you. It'll generally cost you $25 for 15 minutes. You can have them ask the dog questions like "Would the dog like to be a member of your family?", or "Does the dog have any problems with children or any other pets you might have?" I kno, it sounds weird, but I swear this works.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I kno, it sounds weird, but I swear this works.
Normally I would say it sounds weird. But I gotta say John, it sounds even weirder coming from you, of all people. ;P
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Find your local Golden retriever Rescue group and adopt a dog from them. My wife and I volunteer for the Austin GRR organization and there are plenty of dogs that are young enough (and housebroken) to be a companion to your daughter for most of her childhood. Goldens are moderately high-energy and need regular exercise (daily walking). They also need regular brushing. We have three Goldens ourself. Keep in mind that most/all rescue groups will not adopt a dog to people that don't pass a rigorous interview. Most don't allow doggy doors, unfenced yards, or families that intend to leave the dog outside. A dog is like a small child, so count on your level of commitment to be along those lines. Tip: Training is everything. Advice: Consider consulting an animal communicator (seriously, this stuff really works) and have them interview perspective dogs for you. It'll generally cost you $25 for 15 minutes. You can have them ask the dog questions like "Would the dog like to be a member of your family?", or "Does the dog have any problems with children or any other pets you might have?" I kno, it sounds weird, but I swear this works.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
that don't pass a rigorous interview
I obviously do not intend to leave the dog oustside but I don't have a fenced yard. Any idea on how much the monthly spending will be on food + vet?
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
animal communicator
That sounds interesting.
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Find your local Golden retriever Rescue group and adopt a dog from them. My wife and I volunteer for the Austin GRR organization and there are plenty of dogs that are young enough (and housebroken) to be a companion to your daughter for most of her childhood. Goldens are moderately high-energy and need regular exercise (daily walking). They also need regular brushing. We have three Goldens ourself. Keep in mind that most/all rescue groups will not adopt a dog to people that don't pass a rigorous interview. Most don't allow doggy doors, unfenced yards, or families that intend to leave the dog outside. A dog is like a small child, so count on your level of commitment to be along those lines. Tip: Training is everything. Advice: Consider consulting an animal communicator (seriously, this stuff really works) and have them interview perspective dogs for you. It'll generally cost you $25 for 15 minutes. You can have them ask the dog questions like "Would the dog like to be a member of your family?", or "Does the dog have any problems with children or any other pets you might have?" I kno, it sounds weird, but I swear this works.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Advice: Consider consulting an animal communicator (seriously, this stuff really works) and have them interview perspective dogs for you. ... You can have them ask the dog questions like "Would the dog like to be a member of your family?", or "Does the dog have any problems with children or any other pets you might have?"
Hitting the egg nog a little early this year John. :)
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My two year old daughter loves dogs. In particular, she is fond of Golden Retrievers (which is also my favorite breed of dogs). I want to get her a dog or a puppy but I have zero experience in this area as I never had a pet in my life. So I need some advice on how to find a good dog (I am only looking for Golden Retrievers) and what to expect afterwards in terms of time, money and commitment. Are there any other tips for newbie dog owners? I simply have no idea where to start?
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We had a Samoyed growing up. http://www.canadasguidetodogs.com/customergraphics/samoyed.jpg[^] http://www.samoyed.ca/history.htm[^] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samoyed_(dog)[^] Pros: - very smart - good with people - no dog smell, ever (no oils in their fur) - does not stay dirty, if she rolled around in the mud we'd just put her in her pen until the mud dried and fell off, didn't need to wash it off - their fur is as soft as cashmere, a friend of my moms spun the (shed) fur and made a hat and mittens for my mom, super soft Cons: - they shed more than any other animal i've seen, white fur everywhere for a couple weeks each year. As for training, do it early, do it right, pay for pro help. Take it to a class with other dogs so it gets used to be commanded with a lot of distractions. When ever you want to give the dog a command say it's name _first_ to get it's attention. Everything it hears up to it's name will likely be lost as just noise.
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Are there any other tips for newbie dog owners?
Don't get one. Dogs and Cats cost a lot of money to maintain. A visit to the vet can easily cost more than taking your kid to a human doctor (and there's no insurance for the vet.) Also be aware than just about every breed, especially pure breds, have a litany of quite specific health problems that will crop up sooner or later.
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Joe Woodbury wrote:
and there's no insurance for the vet
my employer offers pet insurance.
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Are there any other tips for newbie dog owners?
Don't get one. Dogs and Cats cost a lot of money to maintain. A visit to the vet can easily cost more than taking your kid to a human doctor (and there's no insurance for the vet.) Also be aware than just about every breed, especially pure breds, have a litany of quite specific health problems that will crop up sooner or later.
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
Joe Woodbury wrote:
Dogs and Cats cost a lot of money to maintain.
Money doesn't mean anything in spite of the love and loyalty and friendship my furry one gives to me. And it's given deliberately, without thinking about costs and stuff... To Rama: Get one. I'm sure you won't regret it ! .... Why do replies constantly go to the wrong subthread in the forums. It starts to be annoying... Marius
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Looks like a cute dog. Do you know what the other breed is other then sneaky neighbor's dog? I grew up with a half-pit half boxer.
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My wife thinks he's part yellow lab. We don't really know though; IIRC he had been abandoned, and the shelter we adopted him from didn't know the full breed.
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My two year old daughter loves dogs. In particular, she is fond of Golden Retrievers (which is also my favorite breed of dogs). I want to get her a dog or a puppy but I have zero experience in this area as I never had a pet in my life. So I need some advice on how to find a good dog (I am only looking for Golden Retrievers) and what to expect afterwards in terms of time, money and commitment. Are there any other tips for newbie dog owners? I simply have no idea where to start?
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I spent forty minutes typing out a reply, then Code Project disappears off the face of the Earth and it is lost. :( I will attempt to try again... I had a Golden Retriever growing up - she was a great dog. They are very friendly, and very companionable. It is a good choice for a family pet, and they can live around twenty years if you take good care of them. It is important that you factor that in if you want to get a puppy because dogs out of all pets are not cheap to look after. I would take out insurance for £15 a month to cover any vet bills, don't even bother saving up because whilst visits will be few and far between once they are adults, when they do need to go in you will be paying £300 a visit and costs can shoot up considerably for treatments. You need health insurance (public or private) for your family and you will need it for your dog as well. Food for a Retriever will set you back around £20 a week for dry feed and meat, and care products maybe £50 a year if you wash and brush your dog yourself. At least weekly for the brushing, or after any walk when their hair gets tangled or dirty. As Paul mentioned, they shed hair like like you have never seen something shed hair before, so if you have carpets expect to be vacuuming them often. (Brushing daily can cut that down a lot.) So the cost alone will be around £1,400 a year minimum. Time-wise, as you'll know they are very companionable so expect to spend an hour a day absolute minimum with one-on-one attention after the initial novelty wears off, and a lot more when you are home all the time. Golden Retrievers will need walking/running every day, ideally for about five miles minimum and somewhere they run can free with a frisbee or other dogs. (They are called 'retrievers' after all!) They will hunt too, not actively but they rummage round in hedgerows and go after rabbits and ground birds. My dog was quite skilled at catching grouse and pheasant, which made for a nice Sunday roast a few times a year. In addition to regular walks you should try and get out for a big day-long walk with your dog at least a couple of times a month. Local moorland or public parks are great for that, and your family gets a fun day out too. Also communicate with your dog. They don't just learn key commands through repetition (sit, stay, etc) they also learn how to communicate with you. Your dog will come and comfort you when you are sad without prompting just because it knows you are sad. When buying a breed like a Golden Retriev
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Wow - I've had no trouble with this, ever. Our current dog, I am not too fond of. I don't like small dogs. I treat it well, as I should, but I don't seek it out. It follows me around everywhere, it is sure I am the pack leader. In fact, all the animals come to me first, to the disgust of my wife.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Wow - I've had no trouble with this, ever. Our current dog, I am not too fond of. I don't like small dogs. I treat it well, as I should, but I don't seek it out. It follows me around everywhere, it is sure I am the pack leader. In fact, all the animals come to me first, to the disgust of my wife.
Perhaps with small dogs it's not as prevalent. Our little one was quite frightened of me when we first got him. What I typically see when people walk their medium or large dog is the dog pulling the owner around and going pretty much wherever he wants. That's a sign that the dog is in control and is acting as pack leader (since he doesn't see anyone taking the role). Some people don't mind it, considering it part of the dog's personality, but Cesar Millan's videos show that any dog can be conditioned to treat his owner as his leader, and that they actually prefer it that way. When they learn to place their trust in their leader, they feel at ease. Regards, Alvaro
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I spent forty minutes typing out a reply, then Code Project disappears off the face of the Earth and it is lost. :( I will attempt to try again... I had a Golden Retriever growing up - she was a great dog. They are very friendly, and very companionable. It is a good choice for a family pet, and they can live around twenty years if you take good care of them. It is important that you factor that in if you want to get a puppy because dogs out of all pets are not cheap to look after. I would take out insurance for £15 a month to cover any vet bills, don't even bother saving up because whilst visits will be few and far between once they are adults, when they do need to go in you will be paying £300 a visit and costs can shoot up considerably for treatments. You need health insurance (public or private) for your family and you will need it for your dog as well. Food for a Retriever will set you back around £20 a week for dry feed and meat, and care products maybe £50 a year if you wash and brush your dog yourself. At least weekly for the brushing, or after any walk when their hair gets tangled or dirty. As Paul mentioned, they shed hair like like you have never seen something shed hair before, so if you have carpets expect to be vacuuming them often. (Brushing daily can cut that down a lot.) So the cost alone will be around £1,400 a year minimum. Time-wise, as you'll know they are very companionable so expect to spend an hour a day absolute minimum with one-on-one attention after the initial novelty wears off, and a lot more when you are home all the time. Golden Retrievers will need walking/running every day, ideally for about five miles minimum and somewhere they run can free with a frisbee or other dogs. (They are called 'retrievers' after all!) They will hunt too, not actively but they rummage round in hedgerows and go after rabbits and ground birds. My dog was quite skilled at catching grouse and pheasant, which made for a nice Sunday roast a few times a year. In addition to regular walks you should try and get out for a big day-long walk with your dog at least a couple of times a month. Local moorland or public parks are great for that, and your family gets a fun day out too. Also communicate with your dog. They don't just learn key commands through repetition (sit, stay, etc) they also learn how to communicate with you. Your dog will come and comfort you when you are sad without prompting just because it knows you are sad. When buying a breed like a Golden Retriev
David Wulff wrote:
I spent forty minutes typing out a reply, then Code Project disappears off the face of the Earth and it is lost.
Speaking of dogs, CodeProject has trained me to do Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C before hitting the Post Message button. :-)
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David Wulff wrote:
I spent forty minutes typing out a reply, then Code Project disappears off the face of the Earth and it is lost.
Speaking of dogs, CodeProject has trained me to do Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C before hitting the Post Message button. :-)
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I used to do that automatically two or three years ago during the Great Code Project Server Wars, but it dropped out of habit. Recently I have been doing it again, but not this time. :sigh:
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Christian Graus wrote:
Wow - I've had no trouble with this, ever. Our current dog, I am not too fond of. I don't like small dogs. I treat it well, as I should, but I don't seek it out. It follows me around everywhere, it is sure I am the pack leader. In fact, all the animals come to me first, to the disgust of my wife.
Perhaps with small dogs it's not as prevalent. Our little one was quite frightened of me when we first got him. What I typically see when people walk their medium or large dog is the dog pulling the owner around and going pretty much wherever he wants. That's a sign that the dog is in control and is acting as pack leader (since he doesn't see anyone taking the role). Some people don't mind it, considering it part of the dog's personality, but Cesar Millan's videos show that any dog can be conditioned to treat his owner as his leader, and that they actually prefer it that way. When they learn to place their trust in their leader, they feel at ease. Regards, Alvaro
A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything. - Friedrich Nietzsche
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
That's a sign that the dog is in control and is acting as pack leader
Not always, in fact it can also be a sign of excitement, and that would be obvious to you in the way your dog behaves the rest of the time. Keep in mind that professional animal behaviorists like Cesar Millan are first and foremost trying to sell you products and services.
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I spent forty minutes typing out a reply, then Code Project disappears off the face of the Earth and it is lost. :( I will attempt to try again... I had a Golden Retriever growing up - she was a great dog. They are very friendly, and very companionable. It is a good choice for a family pet, and they can live around twenty years if you take good care of them. It is important that you factor that in if you want to get a puppy because dogs out of all pets are not cheap to look after. I would take out insurance for £15 a month to cover any vet bills, don't even bother saving up because whilst visits will be few and far between once they are adults, when they do need to go in you will be paying £300 a visit and costs can shoot up considerably for treatments. You need health insurance (public or private) for your family and you will need it for your dog as well. Food for a Retriever will set you back around £20 a week for dry feed and meat, and care products maybe £50 a year if you wash and brush your dog yourself. At least weekly for the brushing, or after any walk when their hair gets tangled or dirty. As Paul mentioned, they shed hair like like you have never seen something shed hair before, so if you have carpets expect to be vacuuming them often. (Brushing daily can cut that down a lot.) So the cost alone will be around £1,400 a year minimum. Time-wise, as you'll know they are very companionable so expect to spend an hour a day absolute minimum with one-on-one attention after the initial novelty wears off, and a lot more when you are home all the time. Golden Retrievers will need walking/running every day, ideally for about five miles minimum and somewhere they run can free with a frisbee or other dogs. (They are called 'retrievers' after all!) They will hunt too, not actively but they rummage round in hedgerows and go after rabbits and ground birds. My dog was quite skilled at catching grouse and pheasant, which made for a nice Sunday roast a few times a year. In addition to regular walks you should try and get out for a big day-long walk with your dog at least a couple of times a month. Local moorland or public parks are great for that, and your family gets a fun day out too. Also communicate with your dog. They don't just learn key commands through repetition (sit, stay, etc) they also learn how to communicate with you. Your dog will come and comfort you when you are sad without prompting just because it knows you are sad. When buying a breed like a Golden Retriev
Thanks for the detailed post.
David Wulff wrote:
it is a part of your life.
That was is making me think in detail before I jump into getting one.
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My two year old daughter loves dogs. In particular, she is fond of Golden Retrievers (which is also my favorite breed of dogs). I want to get her a dog or a puppy but I have zero experience in this area as I never had a pet in my life. So I need some advice on how to find a good dog (I am only looking for Golden Retrievers) and what to expect afterwards in terms of time, money and commitment. Are there any other tips for newbie dog owners? I simply have no idea where to start?
Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. -Brian Kernighan
Get one of the books by Richard A Wolters. They're geared toward training your dog to hunt, but you can just skip that stuff. He covers all the basic commands you'll need: sit, stay, come. He also covers how to pick a puppy. Note that his book focuses on Labrador Retrievers, but they and Goldens are very similar breeds. I have Game Dog[^] and Water Dog[^]. There is also a non-hunting version called Family Dog[^]. Also a good read for potential puppy owners is The Art of Raising a Puppy[^]. A good place to ask for advice is this forum[^]. Again, it's a Labrador site, but the same advice will apply to Goldens as well. Good luck, and if you need any further advice, please don't hesitate to ask!
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Are there any other tips for newbie dog owners?
Don't get one. Dogs and Cats cost a lot of money to maintain. A visit to the vet can easily cost more than taking your kid to a human doctor (and there's no insurance for the vet.) Also be aware than just about every breed, especially pure breds, have a litany of quite specific health problems that will crop up sooner or later.
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
Joe Woodbury wrote:
and there's no insurance for the vet
There is, actually, and it saved my mom thousands in vet bills over the course of her dogs' lives.
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