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  • L Lost User

    How do I become a super programmer that can whip up any algorithm in a short amount of time and design and write the most complex systems imaginable?

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    peterchen
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    Read, understand and apply Code Complete, 2nd edition.


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    • M Marc Clifton

      By starting off being a mediocre one, and programming, programming, programming! And then one day waking up and realizing that the trick to writing the most complex systems imaginable is to make them out of the most simplest pieces possible. :badger: Marc

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      Marc Clifton wrote:

      And then one day waking up and realizing that the trick to writing the most complex systems imaginable is to make them out of the most simplest pieces possible.

      Thats so true, I have found my self with a problem that seemed impossible for my mind to find a solution. Then I thought of an ultra simple solution for the problem. Times like these are very rewarding because the frustration of trying to implement code that does something complex is remedied by such a small and simple solution (with much less code too).

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      • P peterchen

        Read, understand and apply Code Complete, 2nd edition.


        Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Velopers, Develprs, Developers!
        We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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        peterchen wrote:

        Code Complete, 2nd edition.

        I was going to get that book! It looks fun and easy to read. I need to finish reading my current book CLR via C# 2nd Edition. That book is hard to understand completely. I got through most of it but I will read it again because I need to.

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        • L Lost User

          How do I become a super programmer that can whip up any algorithm in a short amount of time and design and write the most complex systems imaginable?

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          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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          The Question is: Is it really worth it?


          Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. -Brian Kernighan

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          • P peterchen

            Read, understand and apply Code Complete, 2nd edition.


            Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Velopers, Develprs, Developers!
            We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
            Linkify!|Fold With Us!

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            peterchen wrote:

            Code Complete, 2nd edition

            Hey that's xmas present I gave to myself. :cool:


            "Throughout human history, we have been dependent on machines to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. " - Morpheus

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            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

              The Question is: Is it really worth it?


              Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. -Brian Kernighan

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              Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

              Is it really worth it?

              Yeah, when I type code it just feels so good, its hard to describe.

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              • N Nnamdi Onyeyiri

                Dunno, but some of the pills you get emails about might help. ;P -- modified at 19:44 Monday 25th December, 2006


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                David Wulff
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                Hello Nnamdi, you've been quite a stranger recently. How are things?


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                  peterchen wrote:

                  Code Complete, 2nd edition.

                  I was going to get that book! It looks fun and easy to read. I need to finish reading my current book CLR via C# 2nd Edition. That book is hard to understand completely. I got through most of it but I will read it again because I need to.

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                  peterchen
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                  Captain See SharpIt looks fun and easy to read.

                  It looks like, but that attitude will certainly not make you an excellent programmer :) It takes years and is hard work. Code Complete is a good guidebook, but you still need to find your way through the jungle yourself. But this isn't to discourage you - just so you take your plan serious enough to make it.


                  Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Velopers, Develprs, Developers!
                  We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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                    peterchen wrote:

                    Code Complete, 2nd edition

                    Hey that's xmas present I gave to myself. :cool:


                    "Throughout human history, we have been dependent on machines to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. " - Morpheus

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                    peterchen
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                    excellent choice ;) I'm reading it with a pencil because I sometimes disagree strngly, but it's "cstructive disagreement".


                    Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Velopers, Develprs, Developers!
                    We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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                    • L Lost User

                      Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                      Is it really worth it?

                      Yeah, when I type code it just feels so good, its hard to describe.

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                      In that case you really need to supplement typing code with other hobbies. I'm not being rude, but you really don't want it to develop as an addiction. Experience is the only thing that will help you, and the only way you can get that is through varied exposure to programming. Do you have a job as a developer? If not then finding one where you can work on varied tasks with huge amounts of pressure should give you the rewards you seek without becoming too overbearing, and the opportunities for advancement should fall at your feet. That said, at some point you will need to specialise. No one wants a jack of all trades and no one offering the sort of rewards you want will offer it to one. Specialising within your own area will be considerably more rewarding and open a lot more doors for you.


                      Ðavid Wulff What kind of music should programmers listen to?
                      Join the Code Project Last.fm group | dwulff
                      I'm so gangsta I eat cereal without the milk

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                        Captain See SharpIt looks fun and easy to read.

                        It looks like, but that attitude will certainly not make you an excellent programmer :) It takes years and is hard work. Code Complete is a good guidebook, but you still need to find your way through the jungle yourself. But this isn't to discourage you - just so you take your plan serious enough to make it.


                        Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Velopers, Develprs, Developers!
                        We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
                        Linkify!|Fold With Us!

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                        peterchen wrote:

                        It looks like, but that attitude will certainly not make you an excellent programmer

                        But it is, its a more relaxing and enlightening that the super nittygritty hard core books.

                        peterchen wrote:

                        It takes years and is hard work. Code Complete is a good guidebook, but you still need to find your way through the jungle yourself. But this isn't to discourage you - just so you take your plan serious enough to make it.

                        I've been programming for about 7 years now. I have never been really serious about it until a couple years ago, no one can discourage me from programming. I have even tried to learn x86 assembler but that was much to much for me.

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                          How do I become a super programmer that can whip up any algorithm in a short amount of time and design and write the most complex systems imaginable?

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                            In that case you really need to supplement typing code with other hobbies. I'm not being rude, but you really don't want it to develop as an addiction. Experience is the only thing that will help you, and the only way you can get that is through varied exposure to programming. Do you have a job as a developer? If not then finding one where you can work on varied tasks with huge amounts of pressure should give you the rewards you seek without becoming too overbearing, and the opportunities for advancement should fall at your feet. That said, at some point you will need to specialise. No one wants a jack of all trades and no one offering the sort of rewards you want will offer it to one. Specialising within your own area will be considerably more rewarding and open a lot more doors for you.


                            Ðavid Wulff What kind of music should programmers listen to?
                            Join the Code Project Last.fm group | dwulff
                            I'm so gangsta I eat cereal without the milk

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                            David Wulff wrote:

                            In that case you really need to supplement typing code with other hobbies. I'm not being rude, but you really don't want it to develop as an addiction.

                            Why? :|

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                              :troll:

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                              Ray Kinsella wrote:

                              :troll:

                              There is no such smiley.

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                                Hello Nnamdi, you've been quite a stranger recently. How are things?


                                Ðavid Wulff What kind of music should programmers listen to?
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                                Nnamdi Onyeyiri
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                                Things are good, just been doing the whole uni thing, tended to be doing less stuff with computers (other than courseworks) recently, busy with other things. What have I missed here? dropped by the other day to find somebody leaving and posting guidelines about, although they seem to have been removed :suss: Its coming up to exam time now, so obviously im finding any and all means of not doing work, and am here.


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                                  How do I become a super programmer that can whip up any algorithm in a short amount of time and design and write the most complex systems imaginable?

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                                  Hmmm...KISS??? Usually I find the simplest designs as the most excellent example of a super programmer... If I can go in and begin understanding code immediately (better yet the architecture) I consider that something super!!! Cheers :)

                                  It's frustrating being a genius and living the life of a moron!!!

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                                    Hmmm...KISS??? Usually I find the simplest designs as the most excellent example of a super programmer... If I can go in and begin understanding code immediately (better yet the architecture) I consider that something super!!! Cheers :)

                                    It's frustrating being a genius and living the life of a moron!!!

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                                    Hockey wrote:

                                    KISS???

                                    What? How about a high five instead?

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                                      How do I become a super programmer that can whip up any algorithm in a short amount of time and design and write the most complex systems imaginable?

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                                      If you want super powers, buy comic books. If you want to improve yourself, focus on what you can do better today, instead of some far off and mystical goal that you can't possibly achieve at this point. The trick, IMO, is to always try to do things as well as you can, and to look for ways to do things better. Code Complete is a great suggestion, whoever made it. But, it's a book. It's not going to make you better, YOU will make you better by both reading and applying it. And, that's just one book, although it's a good one. Look for any opportunity to be the best you can, if it's through books, through things you read in forums, or whatever. The end result won't be what you described, but it will mean that you will be improving yourself, and if you know you're doing the best that you could, because you worked at it, then you should be happy with that.

                                      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                                        Hockey wrote:

                                        KISS???

                                        What? How about a high five instead?

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                                        Christian Graus
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                                        Stands for Keep It Simple, Stupid.

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                                        • A alex barylski

                                          Hmmm...KISS??? Usually I find the simplest designs as the most excellent example of a super programmer... If I can go in and begin understanding code immediately (better yet the architecture) I consider that something super!!! Cheers :)

                                          It's frustrating being a genius and living the life of a moron!!!

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                                          Christian Graus
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                                          Hockey wrote:

                                          KISS

                                          I listen to KISS sometimes, I don't find it improves my code :P

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