HD-DVD / Blue-Ray cracked
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Hacker Claims Crack of High-Definition DVD Encryption[^] :laugh::laugh::laugh:;););):):):) It's kinda ludicrous that the media companies think that any encryption system will last with millions of programmers trying to crack it.
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POV A: That's why there is total intrusion into the entire HD content chain. The cracked HD content will fall back to standard playback quality. While the hardware to circument this isn't unheard of, this is a steep hurdle. How many people would have jumped on the "original Napster", if it had required a tiny piece of hardware worth $0.99 which isn't available 'anonymously' at the big outlets? Content providers don't need the incrackable technology (even if they still dream of it), they just need to make it sufficiently hard for Joe Doe, then they can crack down with full brutality of DMCA on the evil hackers.
POV B: That's why there is total intrusion into a huge assortment of totally unrelated components, technologies and applications. The cracked HD content will fall back to the Shady MPEG crap we get today, which might become even worse once HD technology has market share and technology support. While the hardware to circument this isn't unheard of :cool:, this is a steep hurdle. How many people would have jumped on the "original Napster", if it had required a tiny piece of hardware worth $0.99 which isn't available 'anonymously' at the big chains? The Greedy Lazy Bastards don't need the incrackable technology (even if they still dream of it), they just need to make it sufficiently hard for Joe Doe.
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Hacker Claims Crack of High-Definition DVD Encryption[^] :laugh::laugh::laugh:;););):):):) It's kinda ludicrous that the media companies think that any encryption system will last with millions of programmers trying to crack it.
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
It relies on some player software leaving the decrypted keys in memory, that won't last for long. Elaine :rose:
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It relies on some player software leaving the decrypted keys in memory, that won't last for long. Elaine :rose:
Trollslayer wrote:
It relies on some player software leaving the decrypted keys in memory, that won't last for long.
But won't every player have to have the keys in memory? Okay, maybe the next generation players will encrypt it, so the "crack" will involve decrypting that as well.. The present crack won't last for long, but rest assured a new modified version will become available then.
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It relies on some player software leaving the decrypted keys in memory, that won't last for long. Elaine :rose:
This is the fundamental problem with all DRM systems: in order for the content to be playable, the user must have both the encrypted data and the decryption key. Ultimately, that's like leaving your front door key under the doormat: however good the lock is, it's secure only as long as the attacker doesn't find the key. Windows encrypted files use a session key (using a symmetric algorithm) which is itself attached to the file multiple times, once each for every user that has access to the file plus once for the recovery key, each of these session key copies encrypted using the public half of that user's File Encryption Key. The FEK itself is stored using the Data Protection API, and is secured using a key derived from the user's password. (That's why you should always make sure to change your domain password yourself, rather than having an administrator reset it, because the master key file has to be decrypted using the old password then re-encrypted using the new one when you change your password.) Even through all this, there are moments where the file's decryption key and the private half of the FEK are available as cleartext in memory and could theoretically be stolen; however there's no need for the user to do this as they already have access!
Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder
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I think instead of saying something is impossible to crack, thus attracting the attention of every skilled hacker out thier, they should say its very easy to crack. Nobody would try it because hacking is an ego thing. If you crack something that is impossible to crack get your 15 minutes of fame. If you crack something that's supposed to be easy, who would care. Reverse phycology.
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Hacker Claims Crack of High-Definition DVD Encryption[^] :laugh::laugh::laugh:;););):):):) It's kinda ludicrous that the media companies think that any encryption system will last with millions of programmers trying to crack it.
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
I think companies worried about piracy should concentrate a little more on making a product that's worth paying for. I have some movies that I bought, and I will admit having a few that I copied, but guess which ones I watch... yes, the good ones - the ones that were worth paying for. There will always be people out there who are dedicated to ripping off industry, but the piracy problem is now extending to regular people. Why? Because regular people are coming to the realisation that the product is not worth paying full price for. So now, as a consumer, I'm paying a premium for all this high-tech encryption, to get a less-usable product, and the extra crap I PAYED FOR doesn't even make a dent in the problem. I'm getting really tired of companies treating everyone like criminals just so they can nab the one or two real ones. I disregard things like 'number of items in the dressing room', and I figure if someone wants to challenge me on it, they can if they want, but I refuse to let the tiny fraction of shoplifters out there make things less convenient for me. If I have to try on 40 things, I'm not going to make 8 trips to the dressing room, screw them if they don't trust me. In the same vein, I won't tolerate the entertainment industry making their products less usable simply to thwart the efforts of hackers who are going to copy the thing anyway. Usability problems mean I'll either do some workaround (hack) or, more likely, avoid the product entirely. I do not shop at places which strictly enforce the items limit in dressing rooms, and I'm highly suspicious of any product I can't try before I buy and return if I don't like it. I've seen movies I wanted to unsee, but I'll never get my money back - it can't be returned, even if it's total crap. Tell me of another product like that? You buy it, you're stuck with it forever, and you can't even sell it to someone else. Personally, I would rather watch Youtube all night than most 'entertainment industry' crap. The industry is slowly digging its own grave. I'll be the first one dancing on it.
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I think companies worried about piracy should concentrate a little more on making a product that's worth paying for. I have some movies that I bought, and I will admit having a few that I copied, but guess which ones I watch... yes, the good ones - the ones that were worth paying for. There will always be people out there who are dedicated to ripping off industry, but the piracy problem is now extending to regular people. Why? Because regular people are coming to the realisation that the product is not worth paying full price for. So now, as a consumer, I'm paying a premium for all this high-tech encryption, to get a less-usable product, and the extra crap I PAYED FOR doesn't even make a dent in the problem. I'm getting really tired of companies treating everyone like criminals just so they can nab the one or two real ones. I disregard things like 'number of items in the dressing room', and I figure if someone wants to challenge me on it, they can if they want, but I refuse to let the tiny fraction of shoplifters out there make things less convenient for me. If I have to try on 40 things, I'm not going to make 8 trips to the dressing room, screw them if they don't trust me. In the same vein, I won't tolerate the entertainment industry making their products less usable simply to thwart the efforts of hackers who are going to copy the thing anyway. Usability problems mean I'll either do some workaround (hack) or, more likely, avoid the product entirely. I do not shop at places which strictly enforce the items limit in dressing rooms, and I'm highly suspicious of any product I can't try before I buy and return if I don't like it. I've seen movies I wanted to unsee, but I'll never get my money back - it can't be returned, even if it's total crap. Tell me of another product like that? You buy it, you're stuck with it forever, and you can't even sell it to someone else. Personally, I would rather watch Youtube all night than most 'entertainment industry' crap. The industry is slowly digging its own grave. I'll be the first one dancing on it.
"Quality Software since 1983!"
http://www.smoothjazzy.com/ - see the "Programming" section for (freeware) JazzySiteMaps, a simple application to generate .Net and Google-style sitemaps! -
Nope, had enough of that already :) Maybe I need to relax a bit but every time I see one of these stories, I think the same thing... why the hell don't they stop complaining about this issue and do something real about it, like produce a good product, or do something that targets the offenders instead of targetting everyone. Tell me, why should I do business with a group that assumes from the very start that I can not be trusted with their product? If they don't want it out there, they shouldn't distribute it in the first place. The dressing room thing is the best analogy I can come up with. The company treats me like I'm trying to steal something, when I have given no indication of that intent, and what I really want is to do honest business with them. That is, purchase a product that is worth the price, is made with quality, works like it's supposed to, and get decent service if there is a problem with it. Is that to much to ask from these megalomaniac billionares? I don't think so. Also, where is the responsibility here, with the producers or with law enforcement? Seems like the FBI could help a bit by actually prosecuting people... then the 'industry' could give itself a helping hand by making huge publicity about the prosecutions. I hear stories occasionally about people getting busted, but it should be happening more often. It should be on tv... if you do this, go to prison. Right now, the warnings about copyright are weak because there's no bite behind it. Do they really expect people to just obey the law because some text announcement said so? The effectiveness of speed limit signs should be an indication of how well that works.
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I could teach them how to spell and make the world a safer place :-)
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I think instead of saying something is impossible to crack, thus attracting the attention of every skilled hacker out thier, they should say its very easy to crack. Nobody would try it because hacking is an ego thing. If you crack something that is impossible to crack get your 15 minutes of fame. If you crack something that's supposed to be easy, who would care. Reverse phycology.
It might keep the hackers away. But it would also keep the buyers away. No one shall be interested in spending his money for an easily hackable piece.
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Hacker Claims Crack of High-Definition DVD Encryption[^] :laugh::laugh::laugh:;););):):):) It's kinda ludicrous that the media companies think that any encryption system will last with millions of programmers trying to crack it.
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
DRM is a FUTILE EFFORT! FUTILE I tell you! :)
ROFLOLMFAO
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POV A: That's why there is total intrusion into the entire HD content chain. The cracked HD content will fall back to standard playback quality. While the hardware to circument this isn't unheard of, this is a steep hurdle. How many people would have jumped on the "original Napster", if it had required a tiny piece of hardware worth $0.99 which isn't available 'anonymously' at the big outlets? Content providers don't need the incrackable technology (even if they still dream of it), they just need to make it sufficiently hard for Joe Doe, then they can crack down with full brutality of DMCA on the evil hackers.
POV B: That's why there is total intrusion into a huge assortment of totally unrelated components, technologies and applications. The cracked HD content will fall back to the Shady MPEG crap we get today, which might become even worse once HD technology has market share and technology support. While the hardware to circument this isn't unheard of :cool:, this is a steep hurdle. How many people would have jumped on the "original Napster", if it had required a tiny piece of hardware worth $0.99 which isn't available 'anonymously' at the big chains? The Greedy Lazy Bastards don't need the incrackable technology (even if they still dream of it), they just need to make it sufficiently hard for Joe Doe.
Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Velopers, Develprs, Developers!
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
Linkify!|Fold With Us!Actually the cracked HD content will play at full resolution, it's only the original protected stuff that will be degraded if you don't have the full end to end authorized equipment chain. Even your tv has to be approved, and I think the required tvs are pretty much not on the market yet. So if you want to be sure to be able enjoy HD quality it's probably best to get a pirated version with the protection stuff removed.