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    http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/01/03/220855/quarter-of-firms-on-linux-by-2009-say-analysts.htm "Around 25% of enterprises will be running mission-critical business application on Linux platforms by 2009." According to this webpage, they predict that there will be more and more of Linux platforms on pcs and servers. I know this is a prediction but there's been a growing trend of it and will it soon cover every enterprise out there? It is not just a prediction but there has to be some trend or statistics to even predict it. With that being said, will a growing number of Linux users hurt Microsoft? Microsoft makes most of its cash on Office and Windows, I believe. And now a days it is pure innovation and very different from Mac OS X. /ends sarcasm I'm not hating on Microsoft but they just doesn't add new stuff, not saying it's going to be neccessary for the casuals.

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    Rajesh R Subramanian
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    Code2326 wrote:

    I know this is a prediction

    You'd better. :zzz:


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      Code2326 wrote:

      I know this is a prediction

      You'd better. :zzz:


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      Bruce Chapman DNN
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      Is it just me or do the continual 'Linux will replace Windows' arguments sound a little like Marxists standing around last century with hands on their workers hearts gleefully predicting the end of capitalism within a few years? I mean, I've got nothing against Linux and it's right for many applications but I get so tired of the religious wars. They're all computers, and they just process 1's and 0's.

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      • J Joe Woodbury

        These kind of articles are so tiresome. They are based on pure fantasy. The same type of folks predicted the entire world would be on VoIP by now and that Linux would rule the desktop. The same folks probably also repeatedly predicted an increase in Apple market share. Yawn. :zzz:

        Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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        Christian Graus
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        Joe Woodbury wrote:

        repeatedly predicted an increase in Apple market share.

        If we're talking about Mac sales, it's not like they have far to go in the other direction....

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          Is it just me or do the continual 'Linux will replace Windows' arguments sound a little like Marxists standing around last century with hands on their workers hearts gleefully predicting the end of capitalism within a few years? I mean, I've got nothing against Linux and it's right for many applications but I get so tired of the religious wars. They're all computers, and they just process 1's and 0's.

          Bruce Chapman iFinity.com.au - Websites and Software Development Plithy remark available in Beta 2

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          Rajesh R Subramanian
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          brucerchapman wrote:

          I mean, I've got nothing against Linux and it's right for many applications but I get so tired of the religious wars.

          I am tired too and am with you. But the sad truth is that this will keep to go on. It is such a boring thing. :|

          brucerchapman wrote:

          They're all computers, and they just process 1's and 0's.

          Well said. ;)


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          • C Code2326

            http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/01/03/220855/quarter-of-firms-on-linux-by-2009-say-analysts.htm "Around 25% of enterprises will be running mission-critical business application on Linux platforms by 2009." According to this webpage, they predict that there will be more and more of Linux platforms on pcs and servers. I know this is a prediction but there's been a growing trend of it and will it soon cover every enterprise out there? It is not just a prediction but there has to be some trend or statistics to even predict it. With that being said, will a growing number of Linux users hurt Microsoft? Microsoft makes most of its cash on Office and Windows, I believe. And now a days it is pure innovation and very different from Mac OS X. /ends sarcasm I'm not hating on Microsoft but they just doesn't add new stuff, not saying it's going to be neccessary for the casuals.

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            Nirosh
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            Code2326 wrote:

            Around 25% of enterprises

            Right now how much is it?

            Code2326 wrote:

            According to this webpage, they predict

            Did you see the success rate of their predictions, some where in the web site too? :rolleyes:

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            • C Code2326

              http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/01/03/220855/quarter-of-firms-on-linux-by-2009-say-analysts.htm "Around 25% of enterprises will be running mission-critical business application on Linux platforms by 2009." According to this webpage, they predict that there will be more and more of Linux platforms on pcs and servers. I know this is a prediction but there's been a growing trend of it and will it soon cover every enterprise out there? It is not just a prediction but there has to be some trend or statistics to even predict it. With that being said, will a growing number of Linux users hurt Microsoft? Microsoft makes most of its cash on Office and Windows, I believe. And now a days it is pure innovation and very different from Mac OS X. /ends sarcasm I'm not hating on Microsoft but they just doesn't add new stuff, not saying it's going to be neccessary for the casuals.

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              code frog 0
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              I don't think the prediction was wrong or you are at least about the trend. It won't hurt Microsoft though. They are already working in that direction and have been for some time. They'll make some cool interop product that the Linux weenies will bleed out of their eyes to have. That Mac-sapiens (yeah, strange enough to be their own race) will establish a cult (wait, they've already done that) to promote it and cry out how wonderful it is. That's a prediction, based on nothing remotely statistical and I bet I'm more right than computerweekly is.

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                I don't think the prediction was wrong or you are at least about the trend. It won't hurt Microsoft though. They are already working in that direction and have been for some time. They'll make some cool interop product that the Linux weenies will bleed out of their eyes to have. That Mac-sapiens (yeah, strange enough to be their own race) will establish a cult (wait, they've already done that) to promote it and cry out how wonderful it is. That's a prediction, based on nothing remotely statistical and I bet I'm more right than computerweekly is.

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                Ohhhh, I hate to say this...

                code-frog wrote:

                That Mac-sapiens

                since "sapiens" refers to "thinking", and considering everything else... wouldn't it make more sense to refer to them as.. "homo-mac"?

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                  Ohhhh, I hate to say this...

                  code-frog wrote:

                  That Mac-sapiens

                  since "sapiens" refers to "thinking", and considering everything else... wouldn't it make more sense to refer to them as.. "homo-mac"?

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                  code frog 0
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                  Where's the friggin 10 vote when you need it!?!?!:rose::cool::laugh:

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                  • C Code2326

                    http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/01/03/220855/quarter-of-firms-on-linux-by-2009-say-analysts.htm "Around 25% of enterprises will be running mission-critical business application on Linux platforms by 2009." According to this webpage, they predict that there will be more and more of Linux platforms on pcs and servers. I know this is a prediction but there's been a growing trend of it and will it soon cover every enterprise out there? It is not just a prediction but there has to be some trend or statistics to even predict it. With that being said, will a growing number of Linux users hurt Microsoft? Microsoft makes most of its cash on Office and Windows, I believe. And now a days it is pure innovation and very different from Mac OS X. /ends sarcasm I'm not hating on Microsoft but they just doesn't add new stuff, not saying it's going to be neccessary for the casuals.

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                    NormDroid
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                    Code2326 wrote:

                    "Around 25% of enterprises will be running mission-critical business application on Linux platforms by 2009."

                    :laugh::laugh::laugh::zzz:

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                    • C Code2326

                      http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/01/03/220855/quarter-of-firms-on-linux-by-2009-say-analysts.htm "Around 25% of enterprises will be running mission-critical business application on Linux platforms by 2009." According to this webpage, they predict that there will be more and more of Linux platforms on pcs and servers. I know this is a prediction but there's been a growing trend of it and will it soon cover every enterprise out there? It is not just a prediction but there has to be some trend or statistics to even predict it. With that being said, will a growing number of Linux users hurt Microsoft? Microsoft makes most of its cash on Office and Windows, I believe. And now a days it is pure innovation and very different from Mac OS X. /ends sarcasm I'm not hating on Microsoft but they just doesn't add new stuff, not saying it's going to be neccessary for the casuals.

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                      thats purely a prediction... it could go either way... :-> :)

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                        Ohhhh, I hate to say this...

                        code-frog wrote:

                        That Mac-sapiens

                        since "sapiens" refers to "thinking", and considering everything else... wouldn't it make more sense to refer to them as.. "homo-mac"?

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                        Jim A. Johnson wrote:

                        homo-mac

                        that sounds soooo wrong!


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                        • J Joe Woodbury

                          These kind of articles are so tiresome. They are based on pure fantasy. The same type of folks predicted the entire world would be on VoIP by now and that Linux would rule the desktop. The same folks probably also repeatedly predicted an increase in Apple market share. Yawn. :zzz:

                          Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                          Paul Watson
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                          Joe Woodbury wrote:

                          he same folks probably also repeatedly predicted an increase in Apple market share.

                          Apple has increased their market share. (But I agree with you on the rest.)

                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                          Shog9 wrote:

                          I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                          • C Code2326

                            http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/01/03/220855/quarter-of-firms-on-linux-by-2009-say-analysts.htm "Around 25% of enterprises will be running mission-critical business application on Linux platforms by 2009." According to this webpage, they predict that there will be more and more of Linux platforms on pcs and servers. I know this is a prediction but there's been a growing trend of it and will it soon cover every enterprise out there? It is not just a prediction but there has to be some trend or statistics to even predict it. With that being said, will a growing number of Linux users hurt Microsoft? Microsoft makes most of its cash on Office and Windows, I believe. And now a days it is pure innovation and very different from Mac OS X. /ends sarcasm I'm not hating on Microsoft but they just doesn't add new stuff, not saying it's going to be neccessary for the casuals.

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                            Howard Richards
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                            Just another well-crafted headline to get some publicity. I see what the article said. I also can see what it DIDN'T say: "Around 25% of enterprises will be running mission-critical business application exclusively/mostly/largely on Linux platforms by 2009." Wording is key here. The real headline is what I would expect for large and medium sized business. Take an example: a company with a few thousand employees is likely to have perhaps a dozen (more or less depending on nature/industry) servers. Quite likely that among these would be one key application which is Linux-only, therefore requiring the company to have a Linux server, even if they were a 100% microsoft shop otherwise. This company would be counted as part of that 25%. So would a company which is 100% Linux. So I shall not be shorting Microsoft stock anytime soon..

                            'Howard

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                              Code2326 wrote:

                              /ends sarcasm

                              Where is the /begin sarcasm tag ?

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                              Its a Microsoft extension :)

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                                http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/01/03/220855/quarter-of-firms-on-linux-by-2009-say-analysts.htm "Around 25% of enterprises will be running mission-critical business application on Linux platforms by 2009." According to this webpage, they predict that there will be more and more of Linux platforms on pcs and servers. I know this is a prediction but there's been a growing trend of it and will it soon cover every enterprise out there? It is not just a prediction but there has to be some trend or statistics to even predict it. With that being said, will a growing number of Linux users hurt Microsoft? Microsoft makes most of its cash on Office and Windows, I believe. And now a days it is pure innovation and very different from Mac OS X. /ends sarcasm I'm not hating on Microsoft but they just doesn't add new stuff, not saying it's going to be neccessary for the casuals.

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                                Bob1000
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                                If you don't keep re-inventing the company and products - there is only one way to go. Just think of the greats that dominated in the past - gone almost without a trace! Microsoft has just spent a fortune on producing Vista - money well spent? Only time will tell if its another OS2........ Bob

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                                  http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/01/03/220855/quarter-of-firms-on-linux-by-2009-say-analysts.htm "Around 25% of enterprises will be running mission-critical business application on Linux platforms by 2009." According to this webpage, they predict that there will be more and more of Linux platforms on pcs and servers. I know this is a prediction but there's been a growing trend of it and will it soon cover every enterprise out there? It is not just a prediction but there has to be some trend or statistics to even predict it. With that being said, will a growing number of Linux users hurt Microsoft? Microsoft makes most of its cash on Office and Windows, I believe. And now a days it is pure innovation and very different from Mac OS X. /ends sarcasm I'm not hating on Microsoft but they just doesn't add new stuff, not saying it's going to be neccessary for the casuals.

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                                  I just love religious debates!

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                                    http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/01/03/220855/quarter-of-firms-on-linux-by-2009-say-analysts.htm "Around 25% of enterprises will be running mission-critical business application on Linux platforms by 2009." According to this webpage, they predict that there will be more and more of Linux platforms on pcs and servers. I know this is a prediction but there's been a growing trend of it and will it soon cover every enterprise out there? It is not just a prediction but there has to be some trend or statistics to even predict it. With that being said, will a growing number of Linux users hurt Microsoft? Microsoft makes most of its cash on Office and Windows, I believe. And now a days it is pure innovation and very different from Mac OS X. /ends sarcasm I'm not hating on Microsoft but they just doesn't add new stuff, not saying it's going to be neccessary for the casuals.

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                                    Aww who cares any more, eh? If you don't own stock in it just boot up your system and use it. Life goes on! -CB

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                                      I don't think the prediction was wrong or you are at least about the trend. It won't hurt Microsoft though. They are already working in that direction and have been for some time. They'll make some cool interop product that the Linux weenies will bleed out of their eyes to have. That Mac-sapiens (yeah, strange enough to be their own race) will establish a cult (wait, they've already done that) to promote it and cry out how wonderful it is. That's a prediction, based on nothing remotely statistical and I bet I'm more right than computerweekly is.

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                                      Welllll.... To amplify on that a little...Windows is a perfectly good desktop OS. Linux is a perfectly good server OS. Both are ill-suited (though not unusable) for doing what they are not best at (Windows as a server, Linux as a desktop). In fairness, Linux has come a long way on the desktop, but if you think it's ready for prime-time, just try installing the vaunted Ubuntu distro for a non-techie, confident they'll love it, and see how long it takes for the phone calls to come in. (Two hours, in my case.) In other words, it STILL makes a better server OS. To MS's credit, it's starting to realize this, too, I think, which is the reason (one of them) for the love fest with Novell. There really is room for two major operating systems - one that is reliable but clunky, for serving apps, and one that is buggy but slick, for serving desktop users. I'll leave you to figure out which is which. :)

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                                        http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/01/03/220855/quarter-of-firms-on-linux-by-2009-say-analysts.htm "Around 25% of enterprises will be running mission-critical business application on Linux platforms by 2009." According to this webpage, they predict that there will be more and more of Linux platforms on pcs and servers. I know this is a prediction but there's been a growing trend of it and will it soon cover every enterprise out there? It is not just a prediction but there has to be some trend or statistics to even predict it. With that being said, will a growing number of Linux users hurt Microsoft? Microsoft makes most of its cash on Office and Windows, I believe. And now a days it is pure innovation and very different from Mac OS X. /ends sarcasm I'm not hating on Microsoft but they just doesn't add new stuff, not saying it's going to be neccessary for the casuals.

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                                        >"Around 25% of enterprises will be running mission-critical business > application on Linux platforms by 2009." And what were the predictions in 2006, 2005, 2004, etc? My prediction, which may be as worthless as the one quoted here, is that by 2009 MS will have replaced the current Windows OS code with a new, smaller, faster Windows OS that is backwards compatible to .NET 2.0 and the Win32 API, and allows features to be added or removed as needed. The new MS OS will be more advanced than any of the UNIX flavors, including LINUX, and the UNIX folks will bash it amid cries that LINUX will be running 25% of the mission-critical applications by 2012. UNIX (LINUX is just another flavor of UNIX) and MS OSs both meet needs in the marketplace, both are good OSs, and should be selected based on requirements and life cycle cost, and not religious silliness (e.g. How many angels can fit on the head of a LINUX CD?:laugh:) MSBassSinger

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                                          These kind of articles are so tiresome. They are based on pure fantasy. The same type of folks predicted the entire world would be on VoIP by now and that Linux would rule the desktop. The same folks probably also repeatedly predicted an increase in Apple market share. Yawn. :zzz:

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                                          Weren't we all supposed to have nuclear powered flying cars by now?

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