Microsoft slowly coming to it's demise?
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These kind of articles are so tiresome. They are based on pure fantasy. The same type of folks predicted the entire world would be on VoIP by now and that Linux would rule the desktop. The same folks probably also repeatedly predicted an increase in Apple market share. Yawn. :zzz:
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
Joe Woodbury wrote:
he same folks probably also repeatedly predicted an increase in Apple market share.
Apple has increased their market share. (But I agree with you on the rest.)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.
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http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/01/03/220855/quarter-of-firms-on-linux-by-2009-say-analysts.htm "Around 25% of enterprises will be running mission-critical business application on Linux platforms by 2009." According to this webpage, they predict that there will be more and more of Linux platforms on pcs and servers. I know this is a prediction but there's been a growing trend of it and will it soon cover every enterprise out there? It is not just a prediction but there has to be some trend or statistics to even predict it. With that being said, will a growing number of Linux users hurt Microsoft? Microsoft makes most of its cash on Office and Windows, I believe. And now a days it is pure innovation and very different from Mac OS X. /ends sarcasm I'm not hating on Microsoft but they just doesn't add new stuff, not saying it's going to be neccessary for the casuals.
Just another well-crafted headline to get some publicity. I see what the article said. I also can see what it DIDN'T say: "Around 25% of enterprises will be running mission-critical business application exclusively/mostly/largely on Linux platforms by 2009." Wording is key here. The real headline is what I would expect for large and medium sized business. Take an example: a company with a few thousand employees is likely to have perhaps a dozen (more or less depending on nature/industry) servers. Quite likely that among these would be one key application which is Linux-only, therefore requiring the company to have a Linux server, even if they were a 100% microsoft shop otherwise. This company would be counted as part of that 25%. So would a company which is 100% Linux. So I shall not be shorting Microsoft stock anytime soon..
'Howard
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Code2326 wrote:
/ends sarcasm
Where is the /begin sarcasm tag ?
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http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/01/03/220855/quarter-of-firms-on-linux-by-2009-say-analysts.htm "Around 25% of enterprises will be running mission-critical business application on Linux platforms by 2009." According to this webpage, they predict that there will be more and more of Linux platforms on pcs and servers. I know this is a prediction but there's been a growing trend of it and will it soon cover every enterprise out there? It is not just a prediction but there has to be some trend or statistics to even predict it. With that being said, will a growing number of Linux users hurt Microsoft? Microsoft makes most of its cash on Office and Windows, I believe. And now a days it is pure innovation and very different from Mac OS X. /ends sarcasm I'm not hating on Microsoft but they just doesn't add new stuff, not saying it's going to be neccessary for the casuals.
If you don't keep re-inventing the company and products - there is only one way to go. Just think of the greats that dominated in the past - gone almost without a trace! Microsoft has just spent a fortune on producing Vista - money well spent? Only time will tell if its another OS2........ Bob
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http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/01/03/220855/quarter-of-firms-on-linux-by-2009-say-analysts.htm "Around 25% of enterprises will be running mission-critical business application on Linux platforms by 2009." According to this webpage, they predict that there will be more and more of Linux platforms on pcs and servers. I know this is a prediction but there's been a growing trend of it and will it soon cover every enterprise out there? It is not just a prediction but there has to be some trend or statistics to even predict it. With that being said, will a growing number of Linux users hurt Microsoft? Microsoft makes most of its cash on Office and Windows, I believe. And now a days it is pure innovation and very different from Mac OS X. /ends sarcasm I'm not hating on Microsoft but they just doesn't add new stuff, not saying it's going to be neccessary for the casuals.
I just love religious debates!
David Veeneman www.veeneman.com
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http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/01/03/220855/quarter-of-firms-on-linux-by-2009-say-analysts.htm "Around 25% of enterprises will be running mission-critical business application on Linux platforms by 2009." According to this webpage, they predict that there will be more and more of Linux platforms on pcs and servers. I know this is a prediction but there's been a growing trend of it and will it soon cover every enterprise out there? It is not just a prediction but there has to be some trend or statistics to even predict it. With that being said, will a growing number of Linux users hurt Microsoft? Microsoft makes most of its cash on Office and Windows, I believe. And now a days it is pure innovation and very different from Mac OS X. /ends sarcasm I'm not hating on Microsoft but they just doesn't add new stuff, not saying it's going to be neccessary for the casuals.
Aww who cares any more, eh? If you don't own stock in it just boot up your system and use it. Life goes on! -CB
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I don't think the prediction was wrong or you are at least about the trend. It won't hurt Microsoft though. They are already working in that direction and have been for some time. They'll make some cool interop product that the Linux weenies will bleed out of their eyes to have. That Mac-sapiens (yeah, strange enough to be their own race) will establish a cult (wait, they've already done that) to promote it and cry out how wonderful it is. That's a prediction, based on nothing remotely statistical and I bet I'm more right than computerweekly is.
Welllll.... To amplify on that a little...Windows is a perfectly good desktop OS. Linux is a perfectly good server OS. Both are ill-suited (though not unusable) for doing what they are not best at (Windows as a server, Linux as a desktop). In fairness, Linux has come a long way on the desktop, but if you think it's ready for prime-time, just try installing the vaunted Ubuntu distro for a non-techie, confident they'll love it, and see how long it takes for the phone calls to come in. (Two hours, in my case.) In other words, it STILL makes a better server OS. To MS's credit, it's starting to realize this, too, I think, which is the reason (one of them) for the love fest with Novell. There really is room for two major operating systems - one that is reliable but clunky, for serving apps, and one that is buggy but slick, for serving desktop users. I'll leave you to figure out which is which. :)
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http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/01/03/220855/quarter-of-firms-on-linux-by-2009-say-analysts.htm "Around 25% of enterprises will be running mission-critical business application on Linux platforms by 2009." According to this webpage, they predict that there will be more and more of Linux platforms on pcs and servers. I know this is a prediction but there's been a growing trend of it and will it soon cover every enterprise out there? It is not just a prediction but there has to be some trend or statistics to even predict it. With that being said, will a growing number of Linux users hurt Microsoft? Microsoft makes most of its cash on Office and Windows, I believe. And now a days it is pure innovation and very different from Mac OS X. /ends sarcasm I'm not hating on Microsoft but they just doesn't add new stuff, not saying it's going to be neccessary for the casuals.
>"Around 25% of enterprises will be running mission-critical business > application on Linux platforms by 2009." And what were the predictions in 2006, 2005, 2004, etc? My prediction, which may be as worthless as the one quoted here, is that by 2009 MS will have replaced the current Windows OS code with a new, smaller, faster Windows OS that is backwards compatible to .NET 2.0 and the Win32 API, and allows features to be added or removed as needed. The new MS OS will be more advanced than any of the UNIX flavors, including LINUX, and the UNIX folks will bash it amid cries that LINUX will be running 25% of the mission-critical applications by 2012. UNIX (LINUX is just another flavor of UNIX) and MS OSs both meet needs in the marketplace, both are good OSs, and should be selected based on requirements and life cycle cost, and not religious silliness (e.g. How many angels can fit on the head of a LINUX CD?:laugh:) MSBassSinger
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These kind of articles are so tiresome. They are based on pure fantasy. The same type of folks predicted the entire world would be on VoIP by now and that Linux would rule the desktop. The same folks probably also repeatedly predicted an increase in Apple market share. Yawn. :zzz:
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
Weren't we all supposed to have nuclear powered flying cars by now?
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Code2326 wrote:
Around 25% of enterprises
Right now how much is it?
Code2326 wrote:
According to this webpage, they predict
Did you see the success rate of their predictions, some where in the web site too? :rolleyes:
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MS is diversifying, into online, entertainment, gaming, not to forget mission critical apps that require support. Look at IPTV on Xbox, that says a lot about a strategy that started a long time ago when MS invested in cable providers. They are just ahead of the business game, don't count them out as soon Windows will be a commodity that will no longer count for a major share of MS revenues. May be time to consider acquiring stocks...
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These kind of articles are so tiresome. They are based on pure fantasy. The same type of folks predicted the entire world would be on VoIP by now and that Linux would rule the desktop. The same folks probably also repeatedly predicted an increase in Apple market share. Yawn. :zzz:
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/01/03/220855/quarter-of-firms-on-linux-by-2009-say-analysts.htm "Around 25% of enterprises will be running mission-critical business application on Linux platforms by 2009." According to this webpage, they predict that there will be more and more of Linux platforms on pcs and servers. I know this is a prediction but there's been a growing trend of it and will it soon cover every enterprise out there? It is not just a prediction but there has to be some trend or statistics to even predict it. With that being said, will a growing number of Linux users hurt Microsoft? Microsoft makes most of its cash on Office and Windows, I believe. And now a days it is pure innovation and very different from Mac OS X. /ends sarcasm I'm not hating on Microsoft but they just doesn't add new stuff, not saying it's going to be neccessary for the casuals.
"The researchers questioned over 130 firms and also found that 45% of enterprises will be using Linux to run critical applications by 2011" Man, I'd love to get into the research-analyst business - pretending that what you're doing is pure science and nothing whatsoever to do with hunch and human emotion. I don't know about you but I've answered survey questions in the affirmative in the past, either because I didn't know a great deal about the subject and didn't want to seem ignorant (i.e. it sounded like the right answer) or because I'd simply got out of bed the wrong side and was doing my level best to screw up the survey. Do you think the analysts weeded me out? Not every time, I bet. Besides, if you ask me today if my organisation will be running anything mission critical on Linux in three years' time, I'll give you a far more convincing prediction about the winner of Sunday's 3.40 at Kempton. My using Linux at home doesn't really have a bearing, but what I do know is that the chances of Linux getting a foot in the door probably increases with every pseudo-techie, non-evidence-providing, Linux-hyping article the directors read. 'The Toynbee Convector' springs to mind... -- modified at 9:09 Tuesday 9th January, 2007
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Weren't we all supposed to have nuclear powered flying cars by now?
"Quality Software since 1983!"
http://www.smoothjazzy.com/ - see the "Programming" section for freeware tools and articles. -
http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/01/03/220855/quarter-of-firms-on-linux-by-2009-say-analysts.htm "Around 25% of enterprises will be running mission-critical business application on Linux platforms by 2009." According to this webpage, they predict that there will be more and more of Linux platforms on pcs and servers. I know this is a prediction but there's been a growing trend of it and will it soon cover every enterprise out there? It is not just a prediction but there has to be some trend or statistics to even predict it. With that being said, will a growing number of Linux users hurt Microsoft? Microsoft makes most of its cash on Office and Windows, I believe. And now a days it is pure innovation and very different from Mac OS X. /ends sarcasm I'm not hating on Microsoft but they just doesn't add new stuff, not saying it's going to be neccessary for the casuals.
I've been hearing this argument for many years. There has also been a push for cross platform programming environments (Java,Kylix,etc.) I'm waiting for the day Microsoft has real competition. I would love it if OSX would open up to the masses, instead of Mac only.
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brucerchapman wrote:
I mean, I've got nothing against Linux and it's right for many applications but I get so tired of the religious wars.
I am tired too and am with you. But the sad truth is that this will keep to go on. It is such a boring thing. :|
brucerchapman wrote:
They're all computers, and they just process 1's and 0's.
Well said. ;)
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero ப்ரம்மா
A quote from RedHat: Microsoft refutes monopoly claim - holding up box of RedHat Enterprise Linux. At the moment, RedHat is Microsoft's biggest threat. SuSE has been tamed but RedHat doesn't use any 'Microsoft produce' and therefore can't be bought! Says he, running XP!
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If you don't keep re-inventing the company and products - there is only one way to go. Just think of the greats that dominated in the past - gone almost without a trace! Microsoft has just spent a fortune on producing Vista - money well spent? Only time will tell if its another OS2........ Bob
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http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/01/03/220855/quarter-of-firms-on-linux-by-2009-say-analysts.htm "Around 25% of enterprises will be running mission-critical business application on Linux platforms by 2009." According to this webpage, they predict that there will be more and more of Linux platforms on pcs and servers. I know this is a prediction but there's been a growing trend of it and will it soon cover every enterprise out there? It is not just a prediction but there has to be some trend or statistics to even predict it. With that being said, will a growing number of Linux users hurt Microsoft? Microsoft makes most of its cash on Office and Windows, I believe. And now a days it is pure innovation and very different from Mac OS X. /ends sarcasm I'm not hating on Microsoft but they just doesn't add new stuff, not saying it's going to be neccessary for the casuals.
Thus far Linux has been successful largely 1. On the server. 2. At the expense of commercial Unix. I can't see this changing anytime soon. If MS does have its "IBM moment" I expect it will be as a result of a change in paradigm, rather than another OS. So possibly Google.
Kevin
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Ok, but don't forget that IBM predicted that personal computers wouldn't be used by anyone... And Microsoft said Linux, that free OS, wouldn't be used by anyone...
The bulk of MS's sales and profits come from Windows and Office. We have free Linux to compete with Windows. We have free OpenOffice to compete with Office. Yet still MS's sales and profits continue to increase.
Kevin
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MS is diversifying, into online, entertainment, gaming, not to forget mission critical apps that require support. Look at IPTV on Xbox, that says a lot about a strategy that started a long time ago when MS invested in cable providers. They are just ahead of the business game, don't count them out as soon Windows will be a commodity that will no longer count for a major share of MS revenues. May be time to consider acquiring stocks...
Yes. Generally MS acts as though it's just about to go out of business. It's one reason they've often gotten themselves into trouble. But it will stop them going the way of companies like Digital in the long run.
Kevin