D Version 1.0 is released
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Oops forgot the link - I was distracted by a phone call.:) http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/01/2041256 [^]
Kevin
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Oops forgot the link - I was distracted by a phone call.:) http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/01/2041256 [^]
Kevin
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Thanks for the news, Kevin. But why on Earth would you leave a link to a /. "discussion"? A bunch of kids making stupid jokes on how D is better than C, so E should be better than D, and F is the best.
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What's the sound of a programmer evangelizing? From D's creator: 1. My programs come together faster and have fewer bugs. 2. Once written, the programs are easier to modify. 3. I can do (1) and (2) without giving up performance. :rolleyes: It's sad that, coming from the guy who created the language, his selling points are the same tired mantra of the last 20 years (or more). And how in god's name does he accomplish that without designers, intellisense editors, a framework like MFC or .NET, or a debugger, or auto-documentation, etc? Riiiight. Yes, I've browsed the wiki and yes there are editors and a GUI toolkit and other things. Didn't see a debugger though. The point is, the claim of faster, better, and easier is ridiculous. I applaud his work, I just wish there was a dose of realism as to what D really shines at rather than these grandiose generalizations. That said, I also know how darn hard it can be to actually write anything "real" for a product. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith -
Thanks for the news, Kevin. But why on Earth would you leave a link to a /. "discussion"? A bunch of kids making stupid jokes on how D is better than C, so E should be better than D, and F is the best.
Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:
F is the best.
If F is the best than what will Z be?
Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. -Brian Kernighan
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What's the sound of a programmer evangelizing? From D's creator: 1. My programs come together faster and have fewer bugs. 2. Once written, the programs are easier to modify. 3. I can do (1) and (2) without giving up performance. :rolleyes: It's sad that, coming from the guy who created the language, his selling points are the same tired mantra of the last 20 years (or more). And how in god's name does he accomplish that without designers, intellisense editors, a framework like MFC or .NET, or a debugger, or auto-documentation, etc? Riiiight. Yes, I've browsed the wiki and yes there are editors and a GUI toolkit and other things. Didn't see a debugger though. The point is, the claim of faster, better, and easier is ridiculous. I applaud his work, I just wish there was a dose of realism as to what D really shines at rather than these grandiose generalizations. That said, I also know how darn hard it can be to actually write anything "real" for a product. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithMarc Clifton wrote:
Didn't see a debugger though
I think you can use Visual Studio to debug the D programs. It can build symbolic information. That's what I inferred from the debugging section. -- modified at 11:18 Monday 8th January, 2007 [Edit] Inncorrect: There is a windbg.exe which can be used for interactive debugging.
Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. -Brian Kernighan
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Thanks for the news, Kevin. But why on Earth would you leave a link to a /. "discussion"? A bunch of kids making stupid jokes on how D is better than C, so E should be better than D, and F is the best.
It was just the first link I came across that had a bullet point summary.
Kevin
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What's the sound of a programmer evangelizing? From D's creator: 1. My programs come together faster and have fewer bugs. 2. Once written, the programs are easier to modify. 3. I can do (1) and (2) without giving up performance. :rolleyes: It's sad that, coming from the guy who created the language, his selling points are the same tired mantra of the last 20 years (or more). And how in god's name does he accomplish that without designers, intellisense editors, a framework like MFC or .NET, or a debugger, or auto-documentation, etc? Riiiight. Yes, I've browsed the wiki and yes there are editors and a GUI toolkit and other things. Didn't see a debugger though. The point is, the claim of faster, better, and easier is ridiculous. I applaud his work, I just wish there was a dose of realism as to what D really shines at rather than these grandiose generalizations. That said, I also know how darn hard it can be to actually write anything "real" for a product. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithIt is funny how people want to promote a langauge. For me it is simply I am not into langauges, but into frameworks/APIs. It is not ONLY the syntax of C# that I am sold on, it is the .NET platform. Yes, C# makes my life a bit eaiser, but if I was doing old Win32 apps, I would never had bothered moving from C/C++.
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It is funny how people want to promote a langauge. For me it is simply I am not into langauges, but into frameworks/APIs. It is not ONLY the syntax of C# that I am sold on, it is the .NET platform. Yes, C# makes my life a bit eaiser, but if I was doing old Win32 apps, I would never had bothered moving from C/C++.
Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft doing it again!
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I am referring to .NET applications vs standard Win32 apps. I only do .NET now and will continue to do so while adding applications targeted to Vista (my primary focus for any desktop applications, might not ever touch non-Vista apps again).
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