EU decides it doesn't want people to buy US products on-line...
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WTF? "Under the system, as now, European consumers will pay only their own country's so-called value-added tax. U.S. companies will be forced to charge customers the prevailing rate in force where their customers live." yeah, right. like i'm gonna do the EU's dirty work for them. idiots. -c
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Now I know that teh RoI is a member of the EU but there are times liek this when I just wish we weren't associated with the idiot decision makers
"Isn't that the "write once, debug everwhere" language?" Tom Archer on Java... :)
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WTF? "Under the system, as now, European consumers will pay only their own country's so-called value-added tax. U.S. companies will be forced to charge customers the prevailing rate in force where their customers live." yeah, right. like i'm gonna do the EU's dirty work for them. idiots. -c
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How many US companies are going to go through the hassels of determining location and calculating the correct taxes. This is more of a negative incentive for e-commerce.
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How many US companies are going to go through the hassels of determining location and calculating the correct taxes. This is more of a negative incentive for e-commerce.
May I suggest computerization? A good programmer could write a program to determine location and calculate the correct tax. Many programs already do so for the 50 U.S. states, which all have different sales tax rates and policies. It shouldn't be difficult to handle 13 EU countries with a computer program.
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May I suggest computerization? A good programmer could write a program to determine location and calculate the correct tax. Many programs already do so for the 50 U.S. states, which all have different sales tax rates and policies. It shouldn't be difficult to handle 13 EU countries with a computer program.
Yes. Those 'good' programs determined that I was in Seattle and decided to charge me Washington tax instead of Georgia tax (I live in Atlanta). My ISP was Speakeasy, a Seattle-based company, and my DSL circuit went all the way to Seattle before entering as IP traffic. IP addresses weren't ever designed to be geographical locators. Trying to use them as such will simply mean that much bigger of an arena for hackers and other losers to wreak havoc. All while honest people get the shaft because the government won't just shutup and get the hell out of their way. -- Russell Morris "WOW! Chocolate - half price!" - Homer Simpson, while in the land of chocolate.
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Yes. Those 'good' programs determined that I was in Seattle and decided to charge me Washington tax instead of Georgia tax (I live in Atlanta). My ISP was Speakeasy, a Seattle-based company, and my DSL circuit went all the way to Seattle before entering as IP traffic. IP addresses weren't ever designed to be geographical locators. Trying to use them as such will simply mean that much bigger of an arena for hackers and other losers to wreak havoc. All while honest people get the shaft because the government won't just shutup and get the hell out of their way. -- Russell Morris "WOW! Chocolate - half price!" - Homer Simpson, while in the land of chocolate.
I said nothing about using IP addresses.
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WTF? "Under the system, as now, European consumers will pay only their own country's so-called value-added tax. U.S. companies will be forced to charge customers the prevailing rate in force where their customers live." yeah, right. like i'm gonna do the EU's dirty work for them. idiots. -c
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I am surprised it took them so long to figure out that we could buy stuff without the VAT. Otherwise they are extremely sharp and fast. When it comes to dreaming up ways of charging excessive taxes they are all at genius level. If they were half as good at preventing wasting tax payer's money this would be paradise. For those not living in the EU: years ago the EU members decided to "harmonise" VAT rates. They declared that there would be 2 different rate bands. A low rate for "essential" goods and a higher one for "luxury" goods. The low rate would need to be below 10 % while the high rate was agreed not to exceed 19 % in any of the EU member states. After that solemn promise most member states soon exceeded the 19 % big time. If my memory is correct Belgium was the first country to require 21 % a few months after agreeing. In addition, in Belgium nearly everything is considered to be "luxury goods", the only exception being food. Drinking water though is clearly a "luxury" as we are charged 21% VAT for it, same for a telephone, electrical power etc.... Ah well, the long weekend is coming and I will have a few beers to forget about it all. It is also a "luxury" item but at least after a few you do not notice so much any more :)
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WTF? "Under the system, as now, European consumers will pay only their own country's so-called value-added tax. U.S. companies will be forced to charge customers the prevailing rate in force where their customers live." yeah, right. like i'm gonna do the EU's dirty work for them. idiots. -c
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And just how do they think they can enforce this? I can think of a dozen different ways to get around this law. It's another law to hurt the honest and breed cynicism.
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Now I know that teh RoI is a member of the EU but there are times liek this when I just wish we weren't associated with the idiot decision makers
"Isn't that the "write once, debug everwhere" language?" Tom Archer on Java... :)
... There might actually be a good idea behind it Brian ... Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire"
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... There might actually be a good idea behind it Brian ... Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire"
Ray Kinsella wrote: There might actually be a good idea behind it Brian ... I know that... but there is a good idea behing communism [i.e. the fact that it's based on socialism] but that doesn't mean it's going to work...
"Isn't that the "write once, debug everwhere" language?" Tom Archer on Java... :)
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Ray Kinsella wrote: There might actually be a good idea behind it Brian ... I know that... but there is a good idea behing communism [i.e. the fact that it's based on socialism] but that doesn't mean it's going to work...
"Isn't that the "write once, debug everwhere" language?" Tom Archer on Java... :)
Hum, It is a way of letting European Companies compete with American Companies, we have a simple choice, we could A. Stop charging tax to foreign nationals on their purchases on European websites. B. Ensure that Europeans are charged tax on purchases on US websites. Its all abit involved and isn't have a simple as it would appear at first glance. Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire"
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WTF? "Under the system, as now, European consumers will pay only their own country's so-called value-added tax. U.S. companies will be forced to charge customers the prevailing rate in force where their customers live." yeah, right. like i'm gonna do the EU's dirty work for them. idiots. -c
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Chris Losinger wrote: "Under the system, as now, European consumers will pay only their own country's so-called value-added tax. U.S. companies will be forced to charge customers the prevailing rate in force where their customers live." yeah, right. like i'm gonna do the EU's dirty work for them. idiots. I agree. This is daft. :mad: Logically, if you follow their reasoning, US citizens buying from EU sites should be exempted from VAT though...and I bet they won't sanction that! Bloody idots. :mad: Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
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Chris Losinger wrote: "Under the system, as now, European consumers will pay only their own country's so-called value-added tax. U.S. companies will be forced to charge customers the prevailing rate in force where their customers live." yeah, right. like i'm gonna do the EU's dirty work for them. idiots. I agree. This is daft. :mad: Logically, if you follow their reasoning, US citizens buying from EU sites should be exempted from VAT though...and I bet they won't sanction that! Bloody idots. :mad: Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
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"I would be careful in separating your wierdness, a good quirky weirdness, from the disturbed wierdness of people who take pleasure from PVC sheep with fruit repositories." - Paul WatsonIt does seems like a daft idea. The only people it harms are european shoppers and e-tailers. If you ask me this is a reaction to dubya slapping a 40% tax on steel imports to the US. Our first tactic is to make it less attractive to buy from outside the EU by ensuring our citizens cannot escape paying VAT. Handbags at dawn! Let the trade wars commence. Maybe an American would be kind enough to enlighten me, but why have you taxed steel imports and annoyed a lot of people just to save a few jobs (comparatively speaking) propping up a steel industry that hasn't been able to competively compete globally for some time now? It ain't what you know that matters. Uncle Monkey