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    Brent Lamborn
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    Ok, this is weird I know but I want to post it to see what your reactions are. I've always been a person who is really aware of time. I always think in terms of how much time is this going to take me? I guess because I enjoy my free time so much. Anyway, while writing an application do you ever think of yourself as enabling time travel? I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel? Also, what about when we are debugging an application? Aren't we also slowing down time? When I debug something I always think of it that way...I'm slowing things down so I can take a detailed look before that moment passes by. Weird? So by developing applications, aren't we in a sense travelling through time? Weird right? :~


    "Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.

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      Ok, this is weird I know but I want to post it to see what your reactions are. I've always been a person who is really aware of time. I always think in terms of how much time is this going to take me? I guess because I enjoy my free time so much. Anyway, while writing an application do you ever think of yourself as enabling time travel? I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel? Also, what about when we are debugging an application? Aren't we also slowing down time? When I debug something I always think of it that way...I'm slowing things down so I can take a detailed look before that moment passes by. Weird? So by developing applications, aren't we in a sense travelling through time? Weird right? :~


      "Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.

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      mate you need to get out more. bryce

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        Ok, this is weird I know but I want to post it to see what your reactions are. I've always been a person who is really aware of time. I always think in terms of how much time is this going to take me? I guess because I enjoy my free time so much. Anyway, while writing an application do you ever think of yourself as enabling time travel? I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel? Also, what about when we are debugging an application? Aren't we also slowing down time? When I debug something I always think of it that way...I'm slowing things down so I can take a detailed look before that moment passes by. Weird? So by developing applications, aren't we in a sense travelling through time? Weird right? :~


        "Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.

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        Jim Crafton
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        Brent Lamborn wrote:

        the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process

        I'd question the wisdom of that statement :) At least as it pertains to your run-of-the-mill business app.

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          Ok, this is weird I know but I want to post it to see what your reactions are. I've always been a person who is really aware of time. I always think in terms of how much time is this going to take me? I guess because I enjoy my free time so much. Anyway, while writing an application do you ever think of yourself as enabling time travel? I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel? Also, what about when we are debugging an application? Aren't we also slowing down time? When I debug something I always think of it that way...I'm slowing things down so I can take a detailed look before that moment passes by. Weird? So by developing applications, aren't we in a sense travelling through time? Weird right? :~


          "Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.

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          *phone clicks* Hello, doctor? Yes, I've got a patient imagining things here. Yes. Yes. No....Brent Lamborn....on CP...you dunno what CP is? whadda ya mean you dont. pffft. codeproject.com....yes..yeah. please help the fellah *phone clicks again* :-D:-D:-D


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            Ok, this is weird I know but I want to post it to see what your reactions are. I've always been a person who is really aware of time. I always think in terms of how much time is this going to take me? I guess because I enjoy my free time so much. Anyway, while writing an application do you ever think of yourself as enabling time travel? I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel? Also, what about when we are debugging an application? Aren't we also slowing down time? When I debug something I always think of it that way...I'm slowing things down so I can take a detailed look before that moment passes by. Weird? So by developing applications, aren't we in a sense travelling through time? Weird right? :~


            "Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.

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            Brent Lamborn wrote:

            So by developing applications, aren't we in a sense travelling through time? Weird right?

            Yes, I have been developing my own user tools, rapid application and threading design for 20+ years now. I have gotten so efficient that I can spend all day at CP, and my programs still get done because the tools generated the code so fast that when I run it today, it generates the code yesterday!! :cool: Now THAT is what I call R.A.D.!! :cool:

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            • B Brent Lamborn

              Ok, this is weird I know but I want to post it to see what your reactions are. I've always been a person who is really aware of time. I always think in terms of how much time is this going to take me? I guess because I enjoy my free time so much. Anyway, while writing an application do you ever think of yourself as enabling time travel? I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel? Also, what about when we are debugging an application? Aren't we also slowing down time? When I debug something I always think of it that way...I'm slowing things down so I can take a detailed look before that moment passes by. Weird? So by developing applications, aren't we in a sense travelling through time? Weird right? :~


              "Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.

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              Time is an illusion anyway so we can pretty much travel however we imagine ourselves to do so "in" it.

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              • B Brent Lamborn

                Ok, this is weird I know but I want to post it to see what your reactions are. I've always been a person who is really aware of time. I always think in terms of how much time is this going to take me? I guess because I enjoy my free time so much. Anyway, while writing an application do you ever think of yourself as enabling time travel? I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel? Also, what about when we are debugging an application? Aren't we also slowing down time? When I debug something I always think of it that way...I'm slowing things down so I can take a detailed look before that moment passes by. Weird? So by developing applications, aren't we in a sense travelling through time? Weird right? :~


                "Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.

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                "Breakfast in London and dinner in New York?! That would require a time machine!"

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                • B Brent Lamborn

                  Ok, this is weird I know but I want to post it to see what your reactions are. I've always been a person who is really aware of time. I always think in terms of how much time is this going to take me? I guess because I enjoy my free time so much. Anyway, while writing an application do you ever think of yourself as enabling time travel? I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel? Also, what about when we are debugging an application? Aren't we also slowing down time? When I debug something I always think of it that way...I'm slowing things down so I can take a detailed look before that moment passes by. Weird? So by developing applications, aren't we in a sense travelling through time? Weird right? :~


                  "Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.

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                  Brent Lamborn wrote:

                  So haven't we invented/enabled time travel?

                  I think the guy who invented the car, or the plough, or the tractor, or even the can opener can make an equal claim.

                  Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert

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                    Time is an illusion anyway so we can pretty much travel however we imagine ourselves to do so "in" it.

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                    Christian Graus
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                    Lunchtime, doubly so.

                    Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert

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                    • B Brent Lamborn

                      Ok, this is weird I know but I want to post it to see what your reactions are. I've always been a person who is really aware of time. I always think in terms of how much time is this going to take me? I guess because I enjoy my free time so much. Anyway, while writing an application do you ever think of yourself as enabling time travel? I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel? Also, what about when we are debugging an application? Aren't we also slowing down time? When I debug something I always think of it that way...I'm slowing things down so I can take a detailed look before that moment passes by. Weird? So by developing applications, aren't we in a sense travelling through time? Weird right? :~


                      "Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.

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                      Brent Lamborn wrote:

                      So haven't we invented/enabled time travel?

                      Phhht! Everyone knows that Dr. Who invented Time Travel.

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                        Ok, this is weird I know but I want to post it to see what your reactions are. I've always been a person who is really aware of time. I always think in terms of how much time is this going to take me? I guess because I enjoy my free time so much. Anyway, while writing an application do you ever think of yourself as enabling time travel? I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel? Also, what about when we are debugging an application? Aren't we also slowing down time? When I debug something I always think of it that way...I'm slowing things down so I can take a detailed look before that moment passes by. Weird? So by developing applications, aren't we in a sense travelling through time? Weird right? :~


                        "Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.

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                        If a program control the time in the Universe. Then a multithread programm control the time at the Multiverse? :doh:.

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                          Ok, this is weird I know but I want to post it to see what your reactions are. I've always been a person who is really aware of time. I always think in terms of how much time is this going to take me? I guess because I enjoy my free time so much. Anyway, while writing an application do you ever think of yourself as enabling time travel? I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel? Also, what about when we are debugging an application? Aren't we also slowing down time? When I debug something I always think of it that way...I'm slowing things down so I can take a detailed look before that moment passes by. Weird? So by developing applications, aren't we in a sense travelling through time? Weird right? :~


                          "Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.

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                          Brent Lamborn wrote:

                          the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process.

                          And like time travel, there's a paradox: while we enable countless things to get done quicker, we seem to have less and less time to get the things done that we truly want to get done. Marc

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                            Ok, this is weird I know but I want to post it to see what your reactions are. I've always been a person who is really aware of time. I always think in terms of how much time is this going to take me? I guess because I enjoy my free time so much. Anyway, while writing an application do you ever think of yourself as enabling time travel? I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel? Also, what about when we are debugging an application? Aren't we also slowing down time? When I debug something I always think of it that way...I'm slowing things down so I can take a detailed look before that moment passes by. Weird? So by developing applications, aren't we in a sense travelling through time? Weird right? :~


                            "Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.

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                            Brent Lamborn
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                            Thanks for the responses and for confirming my suspicions that yes, I am indeed strange. :-D Somehow I manage to only post on CP about once every couple months, and when I do; my weird side comes out.


                            "Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.

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                              Time is an illusion anyway so we can pretty much travel however we imagine ourselves to do so "in" it.

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                              Not at all - time is NOT an illusion. It is one of the dimensions in which our universe exist in ( at last count about 13 or so according to the super string theory guys) And some sub-atomic particles ( anti-quarks to be specific ) do travel BACKWARDS in time. This was proven in a atom smasher event in a linear accelerator. The sequence of events observed is sub anti-quark growth(the opposite of decay) and NO quarks up to the point of the impact event, the impact event ( creation of both quarks and anti-quarks), then after the impact event NO anti-quarks and the decay of the quarks.:)

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                                Ok, this is weird I know but I want to post it to see what your reactions are. I've always been a person who is really aware of time. I always think in terms of how much time is this going to take me? I guess because I enjoy my free time so much. Anyway, while writing an application do you ever think of yourself as enabling time travel? I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel? Also, what about when we are debugging an application? Aren't we also slowing down time? When I debug something I always think of it that way...I'm slowing things down so I can take a detailed look before that moment passes by. Weird? So by developing applications, aren't we in a sense travelling through time? Weird right? :~


                                "Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.

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                                You said "I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel?" :sigh: No that does NOT mean we invent time travel - assuming you mean traveling along the time dimension is something other than forward at exactly 1 sec forward per second of elapsed time. Your statement would be related, but the exactly the same, as saying if I the distance between New York and Paris is XXX miles, but I travel in a super-sonic jet - did we invent/enable teleportation. Again no - we did not teleport, we traveled along 3 space dimensions at a faster rate ( that is we traveled a shorter distance along the time dimension );)

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                                  You said "I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel?" :sigh: No that does NOT mean we invent time travel - assuming you mean traveling along the time dimension is something other than forward at exactly 1 sec forward per second of elapsed time. Your statement would be related, but the exactly the same, as saying if I the distance between New York and Paris is XXX miles, but I travel in a super-sonic jet - did we invent/enable teleportation. Again no - we did not teleport, we traveled along 3 space dimensions at a faster rate ( that is we traveled a shorter distance along the time dimension );)

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                                  pgorbas wrote:

                                  No that does NOT mean we invent time travel

                                  And here I am thinking I'm Christopher Lloyd in Back to The Future...you ruined my life! :laugh::laugh:


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                                    Not at all - time is NOT an illusion. It is one of the dimensions in which our universe exist in ( at last count about 13 or so according to the super string theory guys) And some sub-atomic particles ( anti-quarks to be specific ) do travel BACKWARDS in time. This was proven in a atom smasher event in a linear accelerator. The sequence of events observed is sub anti-quark growth(the opposite of decay) and NO quarks up to the point of the impact event, the impact event ( creation of both quarks and anti-quarks), then after the impact event NO anti-quarks and the decay of the quarks.:)

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                                    gnarly


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                                      Not at all - time is NOT an illusion. It is one of the dimensions in which our universe exist in ( at last count about 13 or so according to the super string theory guys) And some sub-atomic particles ( anti-quarks to be specific ) do travel BACKWARDS in time. This was proven in a atom smasher event in a linear accelerator. The sequence of events observed is sub anti-quark growth(the opposite of decay) and NO quarks up to the point of the impact event, the impact event ( creation of both quarks and anti-quarks), then after the impact event NO anti-quarks and the decay of the quarks.:)

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                                      pgorbas wrote:

                                      Not at all - time is NOT an illusion. It is one of the dimensions in which our universe exist in ( at last count about 13 or so according to the super string theory guys) And some sub-atomic particles ( anti-quarks to be specific ) do travel BACKWARDS in time. This was proven in a atom smasher event in a linear accelerator. The sequence of events observed is sub anti-quark growth(the opposite of decay) and NO quarks up to the point of the impact event, the impact event ( creation of both quarks and anti-quarks), then after the impact event NO anti-quarks and the decay of the quarks.

                                      Sure, but perhaps our perception of time can be regarded as an illusion. When we perceive something as taking a 'long' or 'short' period of time, those are relative measures. For example, since a computer can do a huge batch of conscious jobs in the blink of one of our eyes (although I'm sure our brains do much more complicated work in parallel), when we anthropomorphically imagine computers as if they were people (!), usually the first thing that comes to mind would be "man, if it was sentient, it would get so bored in between my fingers hitting the keys" or something. If we could 'think faster' and so forth, then our perception of time would be different. Like the saying "time flies when you're having fun"...

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                                        Brent Lamborn wrote:

                                        So haven't we invented/enabled time travel?

                                        Phhht! Everyone knows that Dr. Who invented Time Travel.

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                                        Schroedinger debugging -- If you don't run the software, it doesn't have bugs?

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                                          Ok, this is weird I know but I want to post it to see what your reactions are. I've always been a person who is really aware of time. I always think in terms of how much time is this going to take me? I guess because I enjoy my free time so much. Anyway, while writing an application do you ever think of yourself as enabling time travel? I mean, the applications we create as developers enable countless things to get done much quicker than some manual process. So haven't we invented/enabled time travel? Also, what about when we are debugging an application? Aren't we also slowing down time? When I debug something I always think of it that way...I'm slowing things down so I can take a detailed look before that moment passes by. Weird? So by developing applications, aren't we in a sense travelling through time? Weird right? :~


                                          "Half this game is ninety percent mental." - Yogi Berra If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English, thank a Marine.

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                                          Yes, I also think of myself as a time traveler! Unfortunately, for the last 47 years its all been in the same direction. I've tried putting a rewind button into my applications to overcome this but, it cancels its own event and the rest of the code never executes, still working on this.

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