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    Well, I've been a cable modem user from the first day I could get it (dsl was not available in my area for a long time). Lately, my cable has been less then optimum. I switched my phone service from Bell gouge South to Vonage. Worked fine for the first week, but the IP phone is 50% hype. If you really need to make a call, even 10% reliability loss is an issue. So, wife went on a tirade, and I'm looking at switching back to the phone company for local service. Anyway... they have this deal - phone/dsl (3MBps)/DirectTv. Anyone here switched from cable to directtv and regretted it? Comments?

    Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW. My other son commutes in an M1A2 Abrams

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      Well, I've been a cable modem user from the first day I could get it (dsl was not available in my area for a long time). Lately, my cable has been less then optimum. I switched my phone service from Bell gouge South to Vonage. Worked fine for the first week, but the IP phone is 50% hype. If you really need to make a call, even 10% reliability loss is an issue. So, wife went on a tirade, and I'm looking at switching back to the phone company for local service. Anyway... they have this deal - phone/dsl (3MBps)/DirectTv. Anyone here switched from cable to directtv and regretted it? Comments?

      Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW. My other son commutes in an M1A2 Abrams

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      Not me, and I wouldn't use satellite. In fact I finally got cable last week (previously dial-up). It's mediacom and periodically throughout the day it just kinda dies for a few minutes. Have to call support about it today. On the other hand, my father now has a fiber connection.

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        Well, I've been a cable modem user from the first day I could get it (dsl was not available in my area for a long time). Lately, my cable has been less then optimum. I switched my phone service from Bell gouge South to Vonage. Worked fine for the first week, but the IP phone is 50% hype. If you really need to make a call, even 10% reliability loss is an issue. So, wife went on a tirade, and I'm looking at switching back to the phone company for local service. Anyway... they have this deal - phone/dsl (3MBps)/DirectTv. Anyone here switched from cable to directtv and regretted it? Comments?

        Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW. My other son commutes in an M1A2 Abrams

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        Aaron VanWieren
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        I use Comcast here in GA and until last month had no problems. Still would not switch as I don't have a home phone. At least with the company I have I know I will always get the same level of incompetency! ______________________________________________________________________________________________________

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          Well, I've been a cable modem user from the first day I could get it (dsl was not available in my area for a long time). Lately, my cable has been less then optimum. I switched my phone service from Bell gouge South to Vonage. Worked fine for the first week, but the IP phone is 50% hype. If you really need to make a call, even 10% reliability loss is an issue. So, wife went on a tirade, and I'm looking at switching back to the phone company for local service. Anyway... they have this deal - phone/dsl (3MBps)/DirectTv. Anyone here switched from cable to directtv and regretted it? Comments?

          Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW. My other son commutes in an M1A2 Abrams

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          Judah Gabriel Himango
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          DirecTV blows away cable TV. You won't regret getting it.

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            DirecTV blows away cable TV. You won't regret getting it.

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            But what about for Internet access?

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              DirecTV blows away cable TV. You won't regret getting it.

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              TV rots your brain. :)

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                Well, I've been a cable modem user from the first day I could get it (dsl was not available in my area for a long time). Lately, my cable has been less then optimum. I switched my phone service from Bell gouge South to Vonage. Worked fine for the first week, but the IP phone is 50% hype. If you really need to make a call, even 10% reliability loss is an issue. So, wife went on a tirade, and I'm looking at switching back to the phone company for local service. Anyway... they have this deal - phone/dsl (3MBps)/DirectTv. Anyone here switched from cable to directtv and regretted it? Comments?

                Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW. My other son commutes in an M1A2 Abrams

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                I have found that Dishnetwork is better that DirectTv all around. We have Windstream(formaly Valor) here as telecom provider. They offer 3mbps download works great, they just recently come out with 6mbps download. Although, I haven't tried it yet.

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                  Well, I've been a cable modem user from the first day I could get it (dsl was not available in my area for a long time). Lately, my cable has been less then optimum. I switched my phone service from Bell gouge South to Vonage. Worked fine for the first week, but the IP phone is 50% hype. If you really need to make a call, even 10% reliability loss is an issue. So, wife went on a tirade, and I'm looking at switching back to the phone company for local service. Anyway... they have this deal - phone/dsl (3MBps)/DirectTv. Anyone here switched from cable to directtv and regretted it? Comments?

                  Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW. My other son commutes in an M1A2 Abrams

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                  I had DirecTV for around 10 years and loved it. In 10 years we did not need to make a single customer service call but I would admit I installed dish and added the second dish when we expanded do 4 tuner with the extra channels. Since it's 100% digital the picture quality is excellent on every channel (unless you are in a very heavy storm which you probably should not have the tv on anyways...) With that said when I moved to a new house I got cable because I wanted to ditch the phone company as well and with DirectTV you need an always connected land phone line and then I also wanted HSI. In my area I had Adelphia which at times had serous problems with their HSI (very long delays between packets) so for a the first 6 months of service my VOIP did not work well and onling gaming was impossible. BTW, for VOIP stay very far away from broadvoice. Since they only have 7000 customers world wide when they experience problems (on their end) it takes a long time to fix. During my first few months with them they had a dispute with a phone company that all service off their network impossible and this was a ~2 week outage. After a year of dealing with this and other problems with them I switched to Vonnage and things are much, much better now. I do admit some of my problems were caused by my flaky HSI but not all as at times broadvoice only one person could hear while the other person had 100% silence and then every conversation had a chance of being dropped for no reason at all. Now that comcast has taken over my service is better as my internet speeds are 6M/768 but with powerboost I routinely get 10M to 14M down.

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                    But what about for Internet access?

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                    John M Drescher
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                    That was one of my problems that forced me into cable. The second is that DirectTV requires a land based phone line whioch I did not want (well at least with verizon)...

                    John

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                      Well, I've been a cable modem user from the first day I could get it (dsl was not available in my area for a long time). Lately, my cable has been less then optimum. I switched my phone service from Bell gouge South to Vonage. Worked fine for the first week, but the IP phone is 50% hype. If you really need to make a call, even 10% reliability loss is an issue. So, wife went on a tirade, and I'm looking at switching back to the phone company for local service. Anyway... they have this deal - phone/dsl (3MBps)/DirectTv. Anyone here switched from cable to directtv and regretted it? Comments?

                      Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW. My other son commutes in an M1A2 Abrams

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                      I get my internet service through the local cable company. We first had DirectTV and we had a lot of issues with reception and TERRIBLE customer service. We switched to Dish Network and I really like them. Although I hated them for awhile thinking they kept calling me to sign up for new service--turns out the calls were fraudulent. My local phone company also offers the internet/Direct TV/phone package, but I wonder about bundling with a third party. I worry they would always be like, 'call the other company--it's not our problem.' Anyhow, if you really want to go to sattelite tv, I really recommend the Dish Network.

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                        But what about for Internet access?

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                        Judah Gabriel Himango
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                        For internet, I don't use satellite. Satellite internet has notorious delay/lag and horrible upload. If you play any online PC games, it's definitely not a wise choice. Go with cable internet.

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                          Well, I've been a cable modem user from the first day I could get it (dsl was not available in my area for a long time). Lately, my cable has been less then optimum. I switched my phone service from Bell gouge South to Vonage. Worked fine for the first week, but the IP phone is 50% hype. If you really need to make a call, even 10% reliability loss is an issue. So, wife went on a tirade, and I'm looking at switching back to the phone company for local service. Anyway... they have this deal - phone/dsl (3MBps)/DirectTv. Anyone here switched from cable to directtv and regretted it? Comments?

                          Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW. My other son commutes in an M1A2 Abrams

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                          I've used Dish Network, and know a few people who use DirectTV. Both are pretty good. I can think of nothing to recommend cable, with the possible exception of being able to hook up more televisions for basic channels without needing more boxes. I could go on, ranting about all the bad experiences i've had with cable companies, but i'm sure you already know what i mean...

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                            I had DirecTV for around 10 years and loved it. In 10 years we did not need to make a single customer service call but I would admit I installed dish and added the second dish when we expanded do 4 tuner with the extra channels. Since it's 100% digital the picture quality is excellent on every channel (unless you are in a very heavy storm which you probably should not have the tv on anyways...) With that said when I moved to a new house I got cable because I wanted to ditch the phone company as well and with DirectTV you need an always connected land phone line and then I also wanted HSI. In my area I had Adelphia which at times had serous problems with their HSI (very long delays between packets) so for a the first 6 months of service my VOIP did not work well and onling gaming was impossible. BTW, for VOIP stay very far away from broadvoice. Since they only have 7000 customers world wide when they experience problems (on their end) it takes a long time to fix. During my first few months with them they had a dispute with a phone company that all service off their network impossible and this was a ~2 week outage. After a year of dealing with this and other problems with them I switched to Vonnage and things are much, much better now. I do admit some of my problems were caused by my flaky HSI but not all as at times broadvoice only one person could hear while the other person had 100% silence and then every conversation had a chance of being dropped for no reason at all. Now that comcast has taken over my service is better as my internet speeds are 6M/768 but with powerboost I routinely get 10M to 14M down.

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                            Like you, I have Adelphia (you sound close to me... are you in Atlanta by any chance?). Now that the acquisition is complete, I'm hoping things stabililze, but the VOIP phone just isn't what we want it to be. The 3 item package deal offered by Bell South for $100 looks like a good deal, and it would be cheaper overall with much better service. The DirectTV is the only unknown for me, never having had it. I have a phone jack next to the TV area, so this isn't an issue. Just new ground for me....

                            Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW. My other son commutes in an M1A2 Abrams

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                              Well, I've been a cable modem user from the first day I could get it (dsl was not available in my area for a long time). Lately, my cable has been less then optimum. I switched my phone service from Bell gouge South to Vonage. Worked fine for the first week, but the IP phone is 50% hype. If you really need to make a call, even 10% reliability loss is an issue. So, wife went on a tirade, and I'm looking at switching back to the phone company for local service. Anyway... they have this deal - phone/dsl (3MBps)/DirectTv. Anyone here switched from cable to directtv and regretted it? Comments?

                              Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW. My other son commutes in an M1A2 Abrams

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                              Well, in chatting with Bell South, the offer is interestingly bundled. The phone and dsl service has no contract, so if it is terrible, I can toss it. The Direct Tv has a min. commmitment of 12 months, but I'm guessing that if performance is terrible - I can toss them for cause. Comments?

                              Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW. My other son commutes in an M1A2 Abrams

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                                But what about for Internet access?

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                                Satellite internet blows. It's worse than dial up. Constant timeouts, random disconnects. Even with clear skies. Your ping is obviously horrible (1500-4000ms) and throughput is very inconsistent.

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                                  Satellite internet blows. It's worse than dial up. Constant timeouts, random disconnects. Even with clear skies. Your ping is obviously horrible (1500-4000ms) and throughput is very inconsistent.

                                  Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.

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                                  yeah, I know all about satellite internet... that's what the dsl is for :)

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                                    Well, I've been a cable modem user from the first day I could get it (dsl was not available in my area for a long time). Lately, my cable has been less then optimum. I switched my phone service from Bell gouge South to Vonage. Worked fine for the first week, but the IP phone is 50% hype. If you really need to make a call, even 10% reliability loss is an issue. So, wife went on a tirade, and I'm looking at switching back to the phone company for local service. Anyway... they have this deal - phone/dsl (3MBps)/DirectTv. Anyone here switched from cable to directtv and regretted it? Comments?

                                    Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW. My other son commutes in an M1A2 Abrams

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                                    Do not know how well the DSL works out (have had cable broadband since 1998 and where I am located, DSL will only get me 400k download while cable gets me 5mb down and 512 mb up), but DirecTv is pretty cool. Also, if you would like HD there are I IIRC 70 HD channels available on DirecTv. The DVRs that DirecTv uses are not too bad and the cost is trivial. I personally like TiVo's interface so I use the TiVo DirecTv DVR which has a dual tuner (which you can usually pick up a used one on eBay). Be warned though, if you live in an area that gets freezing rain or snow, they can cause issues for dishes.

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                                      Well, I've been a cable modem user from the first day I could get it (dsl was not available in my area for a long time). Lately, my cable has been less then optimum. I switched my phone service from Bell gouge South to Vonage. Worked fine for the first week, but the IP phone is 50% hype. If you really need to make a call, even 10% reliability loss is an issue. So, wife went on a tirade, and I'm looking at switching back to the phone company for local service. Anyway... they have this deal - phone/dsl (3MBps)/DirectTv. Anyone here switched from cable to directtv and regretted it? Comments?

                                      Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW. My other son commutes in an M1A2 Abrams

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                                      We switched from Comcast to DirecTV a couple years ago and haven't regretted it one bit. Just recently, we picked up 1.5 mbps DSL and haven't had any issues with it. It was really easy to set up and integrate into our Wi-Fi network. :D Flynn

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                                        Like you, I have Adelphia (you sound close to me... are you in Atlanta by any chance?). Now that the acquisition is complete, I'm hoping things stabililze, but the VOIP phone just isn't what we want it to be. The 3 item package deal offered by Bell South for $100 looks like a good deal, and it would be cheaper overall with much better service. The DirectTV is the only unknown for me, never having had it. I have a phone jack next to the TV area, so this isn't an issue. Just new ground for me....

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                                        charlieg wrote:

                                        Like you, I have Adelphia (you sound close to me... are you in Atlanta by any chance?).

                                        No, I'm not that lucky (I hate the cold). I live in a Pittsburgh, PA suburb very close to the Airport which is around 20 miles southwest of downtown.

                                        charlieg wrote:

                                        The 3 item package deal offered by Bell South for $100 looks like a good dea

                                        Ahh, That was what I was looking to pay for all 3 but no such deal was available in my area. Comcast does offer all 3 for $100 for a year but after that the regular rates apply. Right now my Cable bill is $56 for standard analog cable (no digtial) with $46 for 6M/767 Internet and ~$17 (after tax) for the Vonnage 500 minute plan. All added together it is around $120 with tax.

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                                        The DirectTV is the only unknown for me, never having had it.

                                        Knowing how the satellite works I would say that there are three things you must have to avoid signal problems that cause others headaches. One is a good unobstructed view of the southern sky (as the satellites orbit over central America) and the second is a stable platform to mount the dish that is on the roof or at least high on a wall so it is unlikely to be knocked out of alignment. And last but not least the dish must be pointed correctly which is actually pretty easy as the receiver tells you were to aim and there is a signal meter also on the receiver that helps you fine tune once you get a detectable signal.

                                        John

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                                          DirecTV blows away cable TV. You won't regret getting it.

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                                          You're gonna have to be a lot more specific than "blows away cable". How does it "blow away cable"? I currently have (Time-Warner) cable, and recently upgraded to HD/Digital service for the time being. I gave up on their inetrnet service because they couldn't fix their crap lines/nodes so that I wasn't intermittently loosing connectivity. I'm considering switching to satellite, but here are some issues: 1) Digital cable still allows my other TV's to work without an additional set-top box. (a BIG plus) 2) DirecTV say free installation, but if you don't read the fine print, you're royally screwed. It seems they only make cable runs up to 125 from the dish, and they only go through ONE wall. If you exceed either of those two things, you will get charged for the installation, and the charges are pretty steep. Not only that, but they won't tell you about the extra charges until they're DONE WITH THE INSTALL. I've established that I'm going to have run the cables myself (if I want a decent looking installation) so that the installers only have to put connectors on the coax. Yeah - the install will be free for them, but not for me. 3) Their channel lineup for the $49/month package says 155 channels. However, 55 of those channels are RADIO - NOT TV. Further, you can't shave the radio stations off the channel lineup to save a few bucks on crap you won't use. On the other hand, I don't think I have all of the channels I'm supposed to have on cable. I think I have to call those idiots - again.

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