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  • C CastorTiu

    WinRAR is the best http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm[^] Never had a problem with it and also can open ISOS, ZIP, ACE, GZIP, TAR, high compression ratios, split volumens, etc Small Ad when application launch, but you can click OK, it is not like Winzip that makes you wait.

    -- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.

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      I HATE IT


      Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Velopers, Develprs, Developers!
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      CastorTiu
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      I'd like to know the reason, I never had any trouble at all. Not intrusive and really stable and very practical from the context menus.

      -- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.

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      • B BRShroyer

        I've been using WinAce 2.6, but have recently decided to drop it because the GUI is a little bland and I'm tired of it, plus their new marketing scheme involves adware. The biggest thing I liked about it that I can right-click on a file, drag it to a folder and the context menu allows you to extract to the folder or create a new folder using the filename as the name of the folder. What do you use for compressing files?

        Brad The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. - Albert Einstein

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        Ed Poore
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        Another vote for 7zip, it rocks, plus being open-source no banners / ads / timers at all.


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        • B BRShroyer

          I've been using WinAce 2.6, but have recently decided to drop it because the GUI is a little bland and I'm tired of it, plus their new marketing scheme involves adware. The biggest thing I liked about it that I can right-click on a file, drag it to a folder and the context menu allows you to extract to the folder or create a new folder using the filename as the name of the folder. What do you use for compressing files?

          Brad The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. - Albert Einstein

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          Farhan Noor Qureshi
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          My favorite is 7-zip. Another really good one is ZipGenius.


          Farhan Noor Qureshi

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          • C CastorTiu

            I'd like to know the reason, I never had any trouble at all. Not intrusive and really stable and very practical from the context menus.

            -- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.

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            Dan Neely
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            For basic use it's UI is clunkier than winzip. I only use winrar when I need the extra features or formats that winzip doesn't support.

            -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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            • B BRShroyer

              I've been using WinAce 2.6, but have recently decided to drop it because the GUI is a little bland and I'm tired of it, plus their new marketing scheme involves adware. The biggest thing I liked about it that I can right-click on a file, drag it to a folder and the context menu allows you to extract to the folder or create a new folder using the filename as the name of the folder. What do you use for compressing files?

              Brad The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. - Albert Einstein

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              Aaron VanWieren
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              Definately WinRar. If you do purchase it it is cheap. Great features and has never let me down.

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              • B BRShroyer

                I've been using WinAce 2.6, but have recently decided to drop it because the GUI is a little bland and I'm tired of it, plus their new marketing scheme involves adware. The biggest thing I liked about it that I can right-click on a file, drag it to a folder and the context menu allows you to extract to the folder or create a new folder using the filename as the name of the folder. What do you use for compressing files?

                Brad The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. - Albert Einstein

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                Ravi Bhavnani
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                I'm a big fan of WinZip 8.1. /ravi

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                • B BRShroyer

                  I've been using WinAce 2.6, but have recently decided to drop it because the GUI is a little bland and I'm tired of it, plus their new marketing scheme involves adware. The biggest thing I liked about it that I can right-click on a file, drag it to a folder and the context menu allows you to extract to the folder or create a new folder using the filename as the name of the folder. What do you use for compressing files?

                  Brad The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. - Albert Einstein

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                  Abu Mami
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                  7-zip all the way. I deleted all the others.

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                    I HATE IT


                    Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Velopers, Develprs, Developers!
                    We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
                    Linkify!|Fold With Us!

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                    • C CastorTiu

                      I'd like to know the reason, I never had any trouble at all. Not intrusive and really stable and very practical from the context menus.

                      -- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.

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                      code frog 0
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                      After I found 7-zip I haven't looked back. It's just totally perfect for my needs and WinRAR always bugged me. Even after I bought a license to it. It bugs me.:laugh:

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                      • C code frog 0

                        After I found 7-zip I haven't looked back. It's just totally perfect for my needs and WinRAR always bugged me. Even after I bought a license to it. It bugs me.:laugh:

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                        CastorTiu
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                        I never tried, I'll give a try.

                        -- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.

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                        • C CastorTiu

                          I never tried, I'll give a try.

                          -- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.

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                          code frog 0
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                          It has unbelievable compression compared to anything else out there. I can compress with WinZip and get 60% better with 7-zip. I added a link to my OP to.

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                            It has unbelievable compression compared to anything else out there. I can compress with WinZip and get 60% better with 7-zip. I added a link to my OP to.

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                            CastorTiu
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                            To compare compression always also I look in compression/time and not just in the final file size, using a big dictionary, solid file or specialized algorithms will give you better compression but may be will take time to do it. I'll compare a big file compressed with 7-zip and winrar.

                            -- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.

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                              To compare compression always also I look in compression/time and not just in the final file size, using a big dictionary, solid file or specialized algorithms will give you better compression but may be will take time to do it. I'll compare a big file compressed with 7-zip and winrar.

                              -- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.

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                              code frog 0
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                              You are absolutely correct. If you use 7-zip's maximum compression on a large file make sure you have *WADS* of memory and a fast disc drive. I'm going to score you not just one point for that observation but 5 because that's always a consideration for me when I use the "maximum" compression of 7-zip.

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                                It has unbelievable compression compared to anything else out there. I can compress with WinZip and get 60% better with 7-zip. I added a link to my OP to.

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                                Dan Neely
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                                .zip's a 25yo algorithm and has lagged badly in compression rate for a long time. Rar's been better than zip for years, bz2 and ace have a good edge on rar, 7zip got it's 15 minutes of fame by getting a good margin over bz2. Except as self extractors though, all the formats except zip have suffered from the same problem though, lack of decompresser support to the average luser. Unless your recipient is a geek, w4r3z d00d, or an aggressive user of no-cd patches the odds are the only decompresser they have is the one in windows which doesn't read any format more modern than zip. nor is the luser interested in, or capable of downloading the 3rd party tool. They'll just use someone else's product instead of yours because the brandX zip just works.

                                -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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                                • B BRShroyer

                                  I've been using WinAce 2.6, but have recently decided to drop it because the GUI is a little bland and I'm tired of it, plus their new marketing scheme involves adware. The biggest thing I liked about it that I can right-click on a file, drag it to a folder and the context menu allows you to extract to the folder or create a new folder using the filename as the name of the folder. What do you use for compressing files?

                                  Brad The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. - Albert Einstein

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                                  WinRAR.

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                                    .zip's a 25yo algorithm and has lagged badly in compression rate for a long time. Rar's been better than zip for years, bz2 and ace have a good edge on rar, 7zip got it's 15 minutes of fame by getting a good margin over bz2. Except as self extractors though, all the formats except zip have suffered from the same problem though, lack of decompresser support to the average luser. Unless your recipient is a geek, w4r3z d00d, or an aggressive user of no-cd patches the odds are the only decompresser they have is the one in windows which doesn't read any format more modern than zip. nor is the luser interested in, or capable of downloading the 3rd party tool. They'll just use someone else's product instead of yours because the brandX zip just works.

                                    -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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                                    code frog 0
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                                    Yeah, I only use 7-zip for my stuff. When dealing with the rest of the world I used plain old "nothing fancy" zip and it's fine.

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                                      You are absolutely correct. If you use 7-zip's maximum compression on a large file make sure you have *WADS* of memory and a fast disc drive. I'm going to score you not just one point for that observation but 5 because that's always a consideration for me when I use the "maximum" compression of 7-zip.

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                                      CastorTiu
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                                      Source 253.969Kb PST file (Outlook DB) 7-Zip | .7z | Normal Compression | 4MB dictionary | 138 sec | 174.178Kb | 58MB RAM used WinRAR | .rar | Normal Compression | 4MB dictionary | 170 sec | 175.257Kb | 37MB RAM used 7-Zip | .7z | Ultra Compression | 4MB dictionary | 144 sec | 174.084Kb | 60MB RAM used WinRAR | .rar | Best Compression | 4MB dictionary | 172 sec | 175.046Kb | 38MB RAM used 7-Zip | .7z | Ultra Compression | 64MB dictionary | 262 sec | 165.791Kb | 680MB RAM used Looks like 7-Zip has better compression size and time after all, good to know.

                                      -- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.

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                                        Source 253.969Kb PST file (Outlook DB) 7-Zip | .7z | Normal Compression | 4MB dictionary | 138 sec | 174.178Kb | 58MB RAM used WinRAR | .rar | Normal Compression | 4MB dictionary | 170 sec | 175.257Kb | 37MB RAM used 7-Zip | .7z | Ultra Compression | 4MB dictionary | 144 sec | 174.084Kb | 60MB RAM used WinRAR | .rar | Best Compression | 4MB dictionary | 172 sec | 175.046Kb | 38MB RAM used 7-Zip | .7z | Ultra Compression | 64MB dictionary | 262 sec | 165.791Kb | 680MB RAM used Looks like 7-Zip has better compression size and time after all, good to know.

                                        -- If you think the chess rules are not fair, first beat Anand, Kasparov and Karpov then you can change them. Moral is, don't question the work of others if you don't know the reason why they did it.

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                                        code frog 0
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                                        That's pretty cool.

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                                        • B BRShroyer

                                          I've been using WinAce 2.6, but have recently decided to drop it because the GUI is a little bland and I'm tired of it, plus their new marketing scheme involves adware. The biggest thing I liked about it that I can right-click on a file, drag it to a folder and the context menu allows you to extract to the folder or create a new folder using the filename as the name of the folder. What do you use for compressing files?

                                          Brad The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. - Albert Einstein

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                                          Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                          ZipGenius. Free and handles almost all known compression types.


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