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  • M Mark Salsbery

    Click to the power of ok :)

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    :laugh:


    :sigh: Yet searching a good English grammar resource...
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      Interesting... what do you think about my username? :~


      :sigh: Yet searching a good English grammar resource...
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      Clickok wrote:

      Interesting... what do you think about my username?:~

      the "aura" of it is mostly that you are a technical person, who is pretty committed to his work...it's about the same "level" as mine, between B and C, probably closer to B. I'm mostly working by what people assume subconsciously when they see a name, which gets pretty reliable after a while, but by all means there are exceptions Roswell:-D

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        I've noticed this for a while, but it hasn't been as clear anywhere else as it is here, at CP... It seems the more "insecure" of all members go for the most imposing names, often directly the opposite of what you'd see in them if you met them in person. Gamers a lot of the time seem to fit in that category. Then there are those with cliché warez d00d characteristics, and a childish personality to match. This is what most of the wannabe crowd consists of and when we don't take them seriously they get mad at decide the best way to act is to be a pain in the a**. An example of such name would be "UltraCoder", once used by a guy who was still in training. "Captain See Sharp" would come to mind with a lot of people as well, since most coders that take themselves seriously wouldn't consider using an important-sounding title even with years of experience. Though it's not to offend CSS, who might well be an exception to the rule... Most of the experienced coders on the other hand simply go by their full name, being more humble and professional. Some also use company name if they freelance. While the folks inbetween would go for a catchy name but nothing really out of the ordinary, sometimes incorporating their real name or initials into it as well. A lot of them mostly come for articles and serious programming questions and have respect for the senior coders, sometimes joining their ranks after a few years. Being a graphic designer i doubt i'd ever be fully one of the B category, but i may at some point in time switch to using a business name instead of my personal handle. The reason i don't go by my given name is i'm always careful about by personal information, and my name being unique i can't risk using it for anything other than business. Roswell P.S. I understand that some of you may consider this thread poor taste and vote me down, and i accept that. But all i was gonna say was the internet provides an interesting look at the layers of our society, one that's quite different from studying people via physical interaction, i.e. a conversation in person, where they are not in the position to comfortably express certain elements of their psyche... You may be naked, wiping down after a shower while you type, and i may respond to your post as i'm dressed right now (and rarely much differently), in a close-fit white cotton tee, a black micropoly vest, straight-cut non-stretchy blue jeans, and if i'm sitting working outside, a pair of hiking boots. Neither of us would know that and we

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        This could also be due to the lack of originality in coming up with names. I used to go by DBDevGeek, then for a short while I went by F5Compiler (My idea of a great super hero name) and I even thought about JustBuildMe. But overall, these are all terrible names. So, everyone who knows me professionally and in coding circles know my name, why not just use that. Spawned originality thats me!! Aaron

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          I've noticed this for a while, but it hasn't been as clear anywhere else as it is here, at CP... It seems the more "insecure" of all members go for the most imposing names, often directly the opposite of what you'd see in them if you met them in person. Gamers a lot of the time seem to fit in that category. Then there are those with cliché warez d00d characteristics, and a childish personality to match. This is what most of the wannabe crowd consists of and when we don't take them seriously they get mad at decide the best way to act is to be a pain in the a**. An example of such name would be "UltraCoder", once used by a guy who was still in training. "Captain See Sharp" would come to mind with a lot of people as well, since most coders that take themselves seriously wouldn't consider using an important-sounding title even with years of experience. Though it's not to offend CSS, who might well be an exception to the rule... Most of the experienced coders on the other hand simply go by their full name, being more humble and professional. Some also use company name if they freelance. While the folks inbetween would go for a catchy name but nothing really out of the ordinary, sometimes incorporating their real name or initials into it as well. A lot of them mostly come for articles and serious programming questions and have respect for the senior coders, sometimes joining their ranks after a few years. Being a graphic designer i doubt i'd ever be fully one of the B category, but i may at some point in time switch to using a business name instead of my personal handle. The reason i don't go by my given name is i'm always careful about by personal information, and my name being unique i can't risk using it for anything other than business. Roswell P.S. I understand that some of you may consider this thread poor taste and vote me down, and i accept that. But all i was gonna say was the internet provides an interesting look at the layers of our society, one that's quite different from studying people via physical interaction, i.e. a conversation in person, where they are not in the position to comfortably express certain elements of their psyche... You may be naked, wiping down after a shower while you type, and i may respond to your post as i'm dressed right now (and rarely much differently), in a close-fit white cotton tee, a black micropoly vest, straight-cut non-stretchy blue jeans, and if i'm sitting working outside, a pair of hiking boots. Neither of us would know that and we

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          The mix is certainly interesting, but I'd be more inclined to view the name selection as a measure of a person's comfort level in a public forum environment. The more obscure names are selected by those who are uncertain of themselves, and the forums, and don't want to expose themselves too blatantly. The clear, plain names are used by those who feel secure with the forums, and with their own contributions. The childish ones are a mix of people who are less experienced, truly childish, or are fully integrated into the digital society to the extent that they have adopted role-playing personae through constant interaction with others in an essentially anonymous medium.

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          • A Aaron VanWieren

            This could also be due to the lack of originality in coming up with names. I used to go by DBDevGeek, then for a short while I went by F5Compiler (My idea of a great super hero name) and I even thought about JustBuildMe. But overall, these are all terrible names. So, everyone who knows me professionally and in coding circles know my name, why not just use that. Spawned originality thats me!! Aaron

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            Aaron VanWieren wrote:

            This could also be due to the lack of originality in coming up with names. I used to go by DBDevGeek, then for a short while I went by F5Compiler (My idea of a great super hero name) and I even thought about JustBuildMe. But overall, these are all terrible names. So, everyone who knows me professionally and in coding circles know my name, why not just use that.

            well, it's probably universal (among us coders) :laugh: Coming up with a creative soon-to-burn-out-dot-com style company name to label some of my ideas i keep in a notebook usually takes time though it's fairly easy, but when it comes to your own self it's much harder...it takes a lot of analysis to come up with something that reflects your work style and type of consumer. The same way with a personal uname, in which case it's easier to go by what someone calls you as a joke and it sticks...which is why my uname isn't the most serious. Google is also a good tool since i tend to go by what's not taken Roswell :)

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            • R RoswellNX

              I've noticed this for a while, but it hasn't been as clear anywhere else as it is here, at CP... It seems the more "insecure" of all members go for the most imposing names, often directly the opposite of what you'd see in them if you met them in person. Gamers a lot of the time seem to fit in that category. Then there are those with cliché warez d00d characteristics, and a childish personality to match. This is what most of the wannabe crowd consists of and when we don't take them seriously they get mad at decide the best way to act is to be a pain in the a**. An example of such name would be "UltraCoder", once used by a guy who was still in training. "Captain See Sharp" would come to mind with a lot of people as well, since most coders that take themselves seriously wouldn't consider using an important-sounding title even with years of experience. Though it's not to offend CSS, who might well be an exception to the rule... Most of the experienced coders on the other hand simply go by their full name, being more humble and professional. Some also use company name if they freelance. While the folks inbetween would go for a catchy name but nothing really out of the ordinary, sometimes incorporating their real name or initials into it as well. A lot of them mostly come for articles and serious programming questions and have respect for the senior coders, sometimes joining their ranks after a few years. Being a graphic designer i doubt i'd ever be fully one of the B category, but i may at some point in time switch to using a business name instead of my personal handle. The reason i don't go by my given name is i'm always careful about by personal information, and my name being unique i can't risk using it for anything other than business. Roswell P.S. I understand that some of you may consider this thread poor taste and vote me down, and i accept that. But all i was gonna say was the internet provides an interesting look at the layers of our society, one that's quite different from studying people via physical interaction, i.e. a conversation in person, where they are not in the position to comfortably express certain elements of their psyche... You may be naked, wiping down after a shower while you type, and i may respond to your post as i'm dressed right now (and rarely much differently), in a close-fit white cotton tee, a black micropoly vest, straight-cut non-stretchy blue jeans, and if i'm sitting working outside, a pair of hiking boots. Neither of us would know that and we

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              so where does "peterchen" put me?


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                so where does "peterchen" put me?


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                category B :) Roswell

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                  category B :) Roswell

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                  B was self-deprecating?

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                  • R Roger Wright

                    The mix is certainly interesting, but I'd be more inclined to view the name selection as a measure of a person's comfort level in a public forum environment. The more obscure names are selected by those who are uncertain of themselves, and the forums, and don't want to expose themselves too blatantly. The clear, plain names are used by those who feel secure with the forums, and with their own contributions. The childish ones are a mix of people who are less experienced, truly childish, or are fully integrated into the digital society to the extent that they have adopted role-playing personae through constant interaction with others in an essentially anonymous medium.

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                    That's very true. One of the reasons i don't use my real name is at times a somewhat toxic personality a bit like John Simmons's, which never carries over into business and beside that, shows nothing of what's truly inside me unless you get to know me...but people make assumptions, so i tend to keep business apart from personal. If i come across a really nasty troll i may "fall on my face" in the process of dealing with it and if people don't forgive me, i have to leave and come back under a new name, which has only happened twice at other forums, but reminds me of why i need to keep a disposable uname... Roswell

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                      I've noticed this for a while, but it hasn't been as clear anywhere else as it is here, at CP... It seems the more "insecure" of all members go for the most imposing names, often directly the opposite of what you'd see in them if you met them in person. Gamers a lot of the time seem to fit in that category. Then there are those with cliché warez d00d characteristics, and a childish personality to match. This is what most of the wannabe crowd consists of and when we don't take them seriously they get mad at decide the best way to act is to be a pain in the a**. An example of such name would be "UltraCoder", once used by a guy who was still in training. "Captain See Sharp" would come to mind with a lot of people as well, since most coders that take themselves seriously wouldn't consider using an important-sounding title even with years of experience. Though it's not to offend CSS, who might well be an exception to the rule... Most of the experienced coders on the other hand simply go by their full name, being more humble and professional. Some also use company name if they freelance. While the folks inbetween would go for a catchy name but nothing really out of the ordinary, sometimes incorporating their real name or initials into it as well. A lot of them mostly come for articles and serious programming questions and have respect for the senior coders, sometimes joining their ranks after a few years. Being a graphic designer i doubt i'd ever be fully one of the B category, but i may at some point in time switch to using a business name instead of my personal handle. The reason i don't go by my given name is i'm always careful about by personal information, and my name being unique i can't risk using it for anything other than business. Roswell P.S. I understand that some of you may consider this thread poor taste and vote me down, and i accept that. But all i was gonna say was the internet provides an interesting look at the layers of our society, one that's quite different from studying people via physical interaction, i.e. a conversation in person, where they are not in the position to comfortably express certain elements of their psyche... You may be naked, wiping down after a shower while you type, and i may respond to your post as i'm dressed right now (and rarely much differently), in a close-fit white cotton tee, a black micropoly vest, straight-cut non-stretchy blue jeans, and if i'm sitting working outside, a pair of hiking boots. Neither of us would know that and we

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                      I'm surprised that you would mention me. I am not surprised that you would say I am an insecure wannabe. I picked that name because it is unique and it goes with the poem I made for my biography and I love C#. I used to go by my real name "Henize" but you may be aware of what happened with that.:laugh: I still use my real name for my software "Henize Software". Some of what you say is true but I like my name and I will keep it regardless. What is wrong with being creative?

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                        I've noticed this for a while, but it hasn't been as clear anywhere else as it is here, at CP... It seems the more "insecure" of all members go for the most imposing names, often directly the opposite of what you'd see in them if you met them in person. Gamers a lot of the time seem to fit in that category. Then there are those with cliché warez d00d characteristics, and a childish personality to match. This is what most of the wannabe crowd consists of and when we don't take them seriously they get mad at decide the best way to act is to be a pain in the a**. An example of such name would be "UltraCoder", once used by a guy who was still in training. "Captain See Sharp" would come to mind with a lot of people as well, since most coders that take themselves seriously wouldn't consider using an important-sounding title even with years of experience. Though it's not to offend CSS, who might well be an exception to the rule... Most of the experienced coders on the other hand simply go by their full name, being more humble and professional. Some also use company name if they freelance. While the folks inbetween would go for a catchy name but nothing really out of the ordinary, sometimes incorporating their real name or initials into it as well. A lot of them mostly come for articles and serious programming questions and have respect for the senior coders, sometimes joining their ranks after a few years. Being a graphic designer i doubt i'd ever be fully one of the B category, but i may at some point in time switch to using a business name instead of my personal handle. The reason i don't go by my given name is i'm always careful about by personal information, and my name being unique i can't risk using it for anything other than business. Roswell P.S. I understand that some of you may consider this thread poor taste and vote me down, and i accept that. But all i was gonna say was the internet provides an interesting look at the layers of our society, one that's quite different from studying people via physical interaction, i.e. a conversation in person, where they are not in the position to comfortably express certain elements of their psyche... You may be naked, wiping down after a shower while you type, and i may respond to your post as i'm dressed right now (and rarely much differently), in a close-fit white cotton tee, a black micropoly vest, straight-cut non-stretchy blue jeans, and if i'm sitting working outside, a pair of hiking boots. Neither of us would know that and we

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                        I pretty much agree. I use code-frog because I absolutely abhor my given name. I've met way to many dogs named Rex and that just kind of iced it for me. Plus it is my business name and it tends to strike up curiosity so it works. But I definitely agree. You have give people more freedom though. Sometimes it's nice to be other than what you are. If your life isn't going great right now maybe you don't want to be Jed Fred. Maybe "MidtownMadness" is a better fit because you enjoy the game and it's how you've been driving lately.:laugh: I should probably go by "The Dork" if I wanted to be fair to everyone. What can I say it kind of fits but that's okay. My kids think I'm cool and after that it just doesn't matter. :-D

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                          Interesting... what do you think about my username? :~


                          :sigh: Yet searching a good English grammar resource...
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                          Your username makes me think I'm being prompted "Just click it! Okay!" :-D

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                            so where does "peterchen" put me?


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                            Well for a while it put you at Mr. Chen :laugh: But honestly, it always makes me think of Xenocide the 4th book in the Ender Wiggin series by Orson Scott Card. Where Peter comes back to life with help of the philotic network and Ender. From that point on he always says, "I am not who you think I am." Whenever I see "peterchen" I automatically switch to wiggen and think "he is not who we think he is". In a good way though.:-D

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                              B was self-deprecating?

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                              Your alias always makes me think of Austin Powers, "Shog me baby!" ;P

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                                I'm surprised that you would mention me. I am not surprised that you would say I am an insecure wannabe. I picked that name because it is unique and it goes with the poem I made for my biography and I love C#. I used to go by my real name "Henize" but you may be aware of what happened with that.:laugh: I still use my real name for my software "Henize Software". Some of what you say is true but I like my name and I will keep it regardless. What is wrong with being creative?

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                                I don't think he said you were an insecure wannabe. I didn't pick up on it anyway but there could be some "bones" between you I'm not aware of. I always thought of Captain See Sharp as being right in the middle. I mean you could have picked Admiral or General right? Had you picked Private we would have cracked up. At some point you could have gone Public.:laugh: For a while your choice of names made me think your head was bigger than my house but after a while I just said to myself, "Who cares. If he likes it then respect him for it." So that's what I did.

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                                  The mix is certainly interesting, but I'd be more inclined to view the name selection as a measure of a person's comfort level in a public forum environment. The more obscure names are selected by those who are uncertain of themselves, and the forums, and don't want to expose themselves too blatantly. The clear, plain names are used by those who feel secure with the forums, and with their own contributions. The childish ones are a mix of people who are less experienced, truly childish, or are fully integrated into the digital society to the extent that they have adopted role-playing personae through constant interaction with others in an essentially anonymous medium.

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                                  I don't hide behind me nor do I use it as an alter ego. There are certainly things in life I'd like to forget and there are things I'd like to still be doing. My handle is a mix of who I was and who I am. It perfectly defines me just as much as anything else. Plus I *hate* the name Rex. To damned many dogs named Rex.:sigh: But come on Roger. We know it's not your real name...:laugh: {joke}

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                                    RoswellNX wrote:

                                    Then there are those with cliché warez d00d characteristics

                                    Dammit. I was about to change mine to L33TCoder. Rest assured, we will never have an online conversation about Linux while I'm naked. I know nothing about Linux :laugh::laugh:

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                                    Mark Salsbery wrote:

                                    Rest assured, we will never have an online conversation about Linux while I'm naked. I know nothing about Linux :laugh::laugh:

                                    I only it used as an example, because if i were to run into that in real life, i would say "whoops! call me or leave a message when it's a good time to talk". While communicating (verbally, not visually) over the internet, i wouldn't care less, because i wouldn't know such details :laugh: But your lack of Linux experience would be another story;P Roswell

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                                      Your alias always makes me think of Austin Powers, "Shog me baby!" ;P

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                                      :laugh: Apparently, it meant "shake" at one time, so that's probably an apt impression...

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                                        I don't think he said you were an insecure wannabe. I didn't pick up on it anyway but there could be some "bones" between you I'm not aware of. I always thought of Captain See Sharp as being right in the middle. I mean you could have picked Admiral or General right? Had you picked Private we would have cracked up. At some point you could have gone Public.:laugh: For a while your choice of names made me think your head was bigger than my house but after a while I just said to myself, "Who cares. If he likes it then respect him for it." So that's what I did.

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                                        code-frog wrote:

                                        I always thought of Captain See Sharp as being right in the middle. I mean you could have picked Admiral or General right? Had you picked Private we would have cracked up. At some point you could have gone Public.:laugh:

                                        :laugh: Talk about an overvalued stock! But of course, all the hype and notoriety does draw the unnecessary attention :laugh: Roswell :)

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                                          code-frog wrote:

                                          I always thought of Captain See Sharp as being right in the middle. I mean you could have picked Admiral or General right? Had you picked Private we would have cracked up. At some point you could have gone Public.:laugh:

                                          :laugh: Talk about an overvalued stock! But of course, all the hype and notoriety does draw the unnecessary attention :laugh: Roswell :)

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                                          We are all overvalued stock when we consider the company that we are in. There is always someone better and there will always be those who are worse. In the end, I just try to hit the requirements by the deadline. If I've done that screw the rest.:-D

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