Code Project Insider Dev News
-
I like the content but the comments are too cocky/cynical for my taste. It's fine every now and then but after a while it gets really unpleasant. I'm pretty sure I speak for a good majority. Just some feedback, if the editor's listening.
Well I'm sort of surprised so many people disagree. Then again, this is a forum where witty-sounding one liners get 5 star votes regardless of how lame they are or whether they even pertain to the topic... Maybe I just don't qualify to be a nerd.
-
Rage wrote:
not everybody can claim he speaks for the majority and use it as an argument if it is not true.
Ok, makes sense, I think... What puzzles me is this: Do I need to say that this is somewhat sarcastic? unless we get about 3,761,152 / 2 + 1 replies to this thread we won't know whether his claim is true or not. Regarding all those who won't reply to this thread; how do we interpret their opinion? Can we assume they've read it and if so, what does it mean that they didn't reply to the thread: do they agree with the OP or not? Since there are two possible opinions there's a 50% chance the majority agrees with the OP and that's at least close to the majority... As I see it, one cannot provide proof for the claim that one speaks for the majority and others cannot argue that one doesn't, unless the majority speaks up. However, the OP said he was "pretty sure" that he spoke for the majority and I consider that to be an opinion and people are allowed to have an opinion... :-D
"It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!" - selfquote
Also, it's easy to forget that online communities tend to attract like minds... A majority on these forums might be a minority in the real world. Who knows.
-
Is it an assertion? I said "pretty sure" because it was a hypothesis (i.e. untested), and evidently it's been proven wrong. But what I don't know right now is whether that's because the people on this forum share a similar mentality or because it truly is what most people think.
-
Rage wrote:
not everybody can claim he speaks for the majority and use it as an argument if it is not true.
Ok, makes sense, I think... What puzzles me is this: Do I need to say that this is somewhat sarcastic? unless we get about 3,761,152 / 2 + 1 replies to this thread we won't know whether his claim is true or not. Regarding all those who won't reply to this thread; how do we interpret their opinion? Can we assume they've read it and if so, what does it mean that they didn't reply to the thread: do they agree with the OP or not? Since there are two possible opinions there's a 50% chance the majority agrees with the OP and that's at least close to the majority... As I see it, one cannot provide proof for the claim that one speaks for the majority and others cannot argue that one doesn't, unless the majority speaks up. However, the OP said he was "pretty sure" that he spoke for the majority and I consider that to be an opinion and people are allowed to have an opinion... :-D
"It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!" - selfquote
-
Ok, but not everybody can claim he spea... oh well, forget it, I'll go and read the insider. :-D
:laugh::laugh:
"It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!" - selfquote
-
I like the content but the comments are too cocky/cynical for my taste. It's fine every now and then but after a while it gets really unpleasant. I'm pretty sure I speak for a good majority. Just some feedback, if the editor's listening.
reinux wrote:
Just some feedback, if the editor's listening.
reinux wrote:
Score: 1.5 (8 votes).
Apparently, your feedback didn't go down too well. :rolleyes:
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*) -
Rage wrote:
not everybody can claim he speaks for the majority and use it as an argument if it is not true.
Ok, makes sense, I think... What puzzles me is this: Do I need to say that this is somewhat sarcastic? unless we get about 3,761,152 / 2 + 1 replies to this thread we won't know whether his claim is true or not. Regarding all those who won't reply to this thread; how do we interpret their opinion? Can we assume they've read it and if so, what does it mean that they didn't reply to the thread: do they agree with the OP or not? Since there are two possible opinions there's a 50% chance the majority agrees with the OP and that's at least close to the majority... As I see it, one cannot provide proof for the claim that one speaks for the majority and others cannot argue that one doesn't, unless the majority speaks up. However, the OP said he was "pretty sure" that he spoke for the majority and I consider that to be an opinion and people are allowed to have an opinion... :-D
"It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!" - selfquote
Roger Stoltz wrote:
What puzzles me is this: Do I need to say that this is somewhat sarcastic? unless we get about 3,761,152 / 2 + 1 replies to this thread we won't know whether his claim is true or not.
A nonrandom sample of 50% is equally statistically worthless as a nonrandom sample of .01%. Conversely a random nonbiased sample of 1000 individuals will have an 2-3% margin of error regardless of if the population is 10,000 or 10,000,000,000.
-- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.
-
I like the content but the comments are too cocky/cynical for my taste. It's fine every now and then but after a while it gets really unpleasant. I'm pretty sure I speak for a good majority. Just some feedback, if the editor's listening.
reinux wrote:
Just some feedback, if the editor's listening.
I'm always listening, and always looking for ways to improve the Insider. What I take from this thread is that perhaps I should *sometimes* rein in my cynicism? While I have (some) attention, is the length OK, or at least better? We've had comments in the past that it was either too long or too heavy, and we've tried to tighten it up. Any topics missing from the coverage? I've tried to cover everything from Microsoft stuff, through COBOL to other lesser used products, Space, oddness, and other common Lounge topics.
-------------- TTFN - Kent
-
Is it an assertion? I said "pretty sure" because it was a hypothesis (i.e. untested), and evidently it's been proven wrong. But what I don't know right now is whether that's because the people on this forum share a similar mentality or because it truly is what most people think.
Careful, your sounding awful Negus-like. I find nothing wrong with the comments. Just ignore them if you don't like em'. I have yet to find one that I don't particularly agree with.
What's in a sig? This statement is false. Build a bridge and get over it. ~ Chris Maunder
-
Well I'm sort of surprised so many people disagree. Then again, this is a forum where witty-sounding one liners get 5 star votes regardless of how lame they are or whether they even pertain to the topic... Maybe I just don't qualify to be a nerd.
Well, you might not be a nerd. Your profile mentions geek though. ;) Relax, I think you're reading too much into this and taking it all too personal. I don't think that calling for more seriousness in the insider is going to garner much support. I get enough of those demands at work, and frankly look to this community for a refreshing contrast to that without having to leave the subject domain. So, love it.
What's in a sig? This statement is false. Build a bridge and get over it. ~ Chris Maunder
-
reinux wrote:
Just some feedback, if the editor's listening.
I'm always listening, and always looking for ways to improve the Insider. What I take from this thread is that perhaps I should *sometimes* rein in my cynicism? While I have (some) attention, is the length OK, or at least better? We've had comments in the past that it was either too long or too heavy, and we've tried to tighten it up. Any topics missing from the coverage? I've tried to cover everything from Microsoft stuff, through COBOL to other lesser used products, Space, oddness, and other common Lounge topics.
-------------- TTFN - Kent
Thanks for responding. Sometimes the comments are great but the negative tone every morning in my inbox is a bit of a drag. Not to say it should be a constant PR spin like Microsoft's newsletters, but it could be more upbeat. As for the rest I definitely like the mix of content. The odd science/space stuff is a nice touch too. And the length is good as it is. How about some Unix dev news once in a while as a heads-up for the Windows community?
-
Rage wrote:
not everybody can claim he speaks for the majority and use it as an argument if it is not true.
Ok, makes sense, I think... What puzzles me is this: Do I need to say that this is somewhat sarcastic? unless we get about 3,761,152 / 2 + 1 replies to this thread we won't know whether his claim is true or not. Regarding all those who won't reply to this thread; how do we interpret their opinion? Can we assume they've read it and if so, what does it mean that they didn't reply to the thread: do they agree with the OP or not? Since there are two possible opinions there's a 50% chance the majority agrees with the OP and that's at least close to the majority... As I see it, one cannot provide proof for the claim that one speaks for the majority and others cannot argue that one doesn't, unless the majority speaks up. However, the OP said he was "pretty sure" that he spoke for the majority and I consider that to be an opinion and people are allowed to have an opinion... :-D
"It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!" - selfquote
Silence is consent. Anyone lurking in the forums has the power of the vote at their fingertips to voice dissent or agreement. The fact that there aren't many voting would lead me to believe that they just don't agree. I think this falls under the "Taking it too seriously" category.
What's in a sig? This statement is false. Build a bridge and get over it. ~ Chris Maunder
-
Well, you might not be a nerd. Your profile mentions geek though. ;) Relax, I think you're reading too much into this and taking it all too personal. I don't think that calling for more seriousness in the insider is going to garner much support. I get enough of those demands at work, and frankly look to this community for a refreshing contrast to that without having to leave the subject domain. So, love it.
What's in a sig? This statement is false. Build a bridge and get over it. ~ Chris Maunder
Which sucks, since it's the same sort of... humor? that I hear all day every day at work and school, whenever I walk into a room with programmers in it. Maybe I just don't have the same sense of humor. I tend to look for solace in CP because at least the people who write the articles seem to be more down-to-earth.
-
Which sucks, since it's the same sort of... humor? that I hear all day every day at work and school, whenever I walk into a room with programmers in it. Maybe I just don't have the same sense of humor. I tend to look for solace in CP because at least the people who write the articles seem to be more down-to-earth.
Why do you find it immature? I find the opposite myself. Its all seriousness and watch what you say at work. So its a nice refreshment to have some candor at CP.
What's in a sig? This statement is false. Build a bridge and get over it. ~ Chris Maunder
-
Why do you find it immature? I find the opposite myself. Its all seriousness and watch what you say at work. So its a nice refreshment to have some candor at CP.
What's in a sig? This statement is false. Build a bridge and get over it. ~ Chris Maunder
Too many low blows. Too arrogant. Maybe it's just my upbringing. I was brought up with programmer types for the bigger half of my life. The jokes and jabs are becoming cliche. I thought most of the people here would feel the same, but I was wrong.
-
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
But hey, don't mind the 1 votes
Yes, but not everybody can claim he speaks for the majority and use it as an argument if it is not true.
True enough.
Cheers, Vikram.
"...we are disempowered to cultivate in their communities an inclination to assimilate to our culture." - Stan Shannon.