Another reason why i hate XP...
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So now wait a second, you are born in 1990, in times of Win 98 you were, say 8-10 years old !? And you knew how to use the task manager ?! :omg:
My kid brother was 10 when the family PC was upgraded from dos/win3.1 to winMe, and the task mangler was one of the first things I taught him how to use. Here's your mallet go smash stuff. :-D Worked quite well, and he quickly figured out what stuff shouldn't be end tasked as well.
-- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.
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I agree that applications (and the OS) have become too bloated. OK - while I was never the biggest fan of 98, it did go some way towards being a more consumer friendly version of Windows. I like some of the things that MS did with XP, but I can't help thinking that it was rushed out of the door in the end just to shut people up. For instance, features like the IMDB (In Memory Data Base) were dropped because they were taking too long. Now, if MS had been committed to a full-feature OS this is a decision that they would have had to work very hard to justify. Part of the problem with Windows is that it is a victim of it's own success. It is designed to work "out of the box", which means that it must be capable of supporting just about any hardware that you throw at it, and it must be able to cope with applications that aren't always written that well. This takes code, and the code takes space. Plus, people expect each version to be "prettier" and more stable than the predecessor, which again takes code (and thus resources). One question though - why 10 instances of Notepad?:-D
the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.Pete O`Hanlon wrote:
One question though - why 10 instances of Notepad?:-D
I use it as a "clipboard". I paste loose bits of code or text onto it, before i get a chance to copy something again, accidentally clearing whatever i just had there. It's also taking up a two inch strip of screen space just above the VS window(which is also downsized, not to overlap notepad space, which i use to put up code examples and rather than paste them in and then try to work them into the existing code(with a avalanche of changes you are bound to miss bugs), i just look at them every once in a while and implement the changes by hand, which is more precise. Roswell :)
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
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Pete O`Hanlon wrote:
One question though - why 10 instances of Notepad?:-D
I use it as a "clipboard". I paste loose bits of code or text onto it, before i get a chance to copy something again, accidentally clearing whatever i just had there. It's also taking up a two inch strip of screen space just above the VS window(which is also downsized, not to overlap notepad space, which i use to put up code examples and rather than paste them in and then try to work them into the existing code(with a avalanche of changes you are bound to miss bugs), i just look at them every once in a while and implement the changes by hand, which is more precise. Roswell :)
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CAI think Pete's point was that if you've got that many open documents you'd do better with a freeware/sharware replacement that supports tabs/MDI. I'll take this moment to plug Textpad which displays the open document list in a sidebar rather than a tabstrip across the top. With your limited vertical space it would be a better fit IMO.
-- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.
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I think Pete's point was that if you've got that many open documents you'd do better with a freeware/sharware replacement that supports tabs/MDI. I'll take this moment to plug Textpad which displays the open document list in a sidebar rather than a tabstrip across the top. With your limited vertical space it would be a better fit IMO.
-- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.
Too right. Textpad is IMHO one of the best tools there is. It's simple, functional and truly excellent. A couple of years ago, I developed my own MDI Notepad replacement and when I finished developing it, I discovered Textpad.:-O
the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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Pete O`Hanlon wrote:
One question though - why 10 instances of Notepad?:-D
I use it as a "clipboard". I paste loose bits of code or text onto it, before i get a chance to copy something again, accidentally clearing whatever i just had there. It's also taking up a two inch strip of screen space just above the VS window(which is also downsized, not to overlap notepad space, which i use to put up code examples and rather than paste them in and then try to work them into the existing code(with a avalanche of changes you are bound to miss bugs), i just look at them every once in a while and implement the changes by hand, which is more precise. Roswell :)
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CASee - you do get some sensible replies from people. Mind you, a post above makes me feel old finding out that you are a teenager. I was developing professionally before you were born.:((
the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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I definitely think the abuse you have taken SUCKS and is totally inappropriate. A lot of people here act like children which makes me want to spank them like I would a spoiled child. But here's what I really think. If you feel like the "odd man out" here or anywhere then that's a good thing. It means your not some simple-minded, feeble, intimidated dweeb that can be cowed by the ignorance of others. It means you have self-confidence are deliberate in each thing you do and have well formed ideas and opinions that are exclusively yours. If you take a beating here then it's probably not bad. It looks like the morons turned out in force for your thread here but aside from that nice job. I'm actually an independent thinker as well (that's why I'm self-employed making 4 to 6 times what I used to make) and appreciate your comments. There were definitely things about 98 to like. It was very fast and nimble. If they ever took the time to rewrite 98 as 'Windows Gamer Edition' and keep much of it the same (kernel, etc) and improve the things we can now do without making the footprint monolithic I'm quite convinced it would outsell Vista in it's first month. I just found out your are a chick last night. Congrats on that! Please stay here and keep your thoughts and opinions churning. We need more girls here and we especially need girls like you and Leckey who are not intimidated by the moronic masses here.:-D I often forget about Trollslayer and Anna who have been bedrock establishments for a long time.:rose:
code-frog wrote:
A lot of people here act like children which makes me want to spank them like I would a spoiled child.
Careful, that's almost enough to make some of us volunteer. Teasing just won't do.
What's in a sig? This statement is false. Build a bridge and get over it. ~ Chris Maunder
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See - you do get some sensible replies from people. Mind you, a post above makes me feel old finding out that you are a teenager. I was developing professionally before you were born.:((
the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.Pete O`Hanlon wrote:
See - you do get some sensible replies from people. Mind you, a post above makes me feel old finding out that you are a teenager. I was developing professionally before you were born. :((
You aren't old, you just have more life experience. You have memories going back a while longer. But the concept of time is too big for many to grasp. We start dividing time into different eras and can relate to the experiences from each. The smells, the sights, the sounds, the social standards. But such indicators of time don't pass equally in every place on earth. Those waves of "time", in the sense the human brain perceives it, speed up, slow down or just hang there. The things we see as we are growing up define us much more than we may realize. And that's one of the reasons why people whom i talk to over the internet may at first believe that i'm older than i am. Because i can't relate to the new generation i'm supposed to be part of The things i remember from when i was growing up, were like that we didn't have calculators at school. All work was simple pen and paper, no computer printouts, no coloring pages. We just neatly copied down what the teacher wrote on the chalkboard, writing everything in cursive. We had no choice but to pay attention. No specialized teaching techniques, we just had to learn whether we like it or not. The school cafeteria cooked everything from scratch, though no one can really say the food was good. In the big school building they still had several cold war era posters left in a few rooms, and the chemistry room and several hallways had murals across the walls we couldn't be looking at during class. I remember in the summer, sitting up in the crab apple tree reading a book. Or playing with a rubber ball, which instantly gathered a crowd of other kids because they didn't have one themselves or were too lazy to get it. But i had a hard time keeping up with them, being the most unathletic kid in the neighborhood. Children wore simple cotton clothes and didn't slough on make-up and hair gel. Being older was not about looks, but about maturity, knowing more, working harder, that being dictated by the society. I remember other things, like the phones with a round dials (using pulse rather than tone signal to connect, since the stepper switches were mechanical), most of the electronics being analog. I remember older plastics resins such as celluloid, and the carbureted cars, with the air filter being big and rou
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Too right. Textpad is IMHO one of the best tools there is. It's simple, functional and truly excellent. A couple of years ago, I developed my own MDI Notepad replacement and when I finished developing it, I discovered Textpad.:-O
the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.For a tabbed text editor, i like Notepad++, which i use when i'm not writing code that requires VS (i mostly need that for a syntax checker). Notepad++ is nice as a "IDE", but the Windows Notepad doesn't have a thick bar at the top, which is why i keep it as "scrap paper". I wish i could turn off that as well, and simply have a blank page for depositing notes... Roswell :)
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA -
Pete O`Hanlon wrote:
See - you do get some sensible replies from people. Mind you, a post above makes me feel old finding out that you are a teenager. I was developing professionally before you were born. :((
You aren't old, you just have more life experience. You have memories going back a while longer. But the concept of time is too big for many to grasp. We start dividing time into different eras and can relate to the experiences from each. The smells, the sights, the sounds, the social standards. But such indicators of time don't pass equally in every place on earth. Those waves of "time", in the sense the human brain perceives it, speed up, slow down or just hang there. The things we see as we are growing up define us much more than we may realize. And that's one of the reasons why people whom i talk to over the internet may at first believe that i'm older than i am. Because i can't relate to the new generation i'm supposed to be part of The things i remember from when i was growing up, were like that we didn't have calculators at school. All work was simple pen and paper, no computer printouts, no coloring pages. We just neatly copied down what the teacher wrote on the chalkboard, writing everything in cursive. We had no choice but to pay attention. No specialized teaching techniques, we just had to learn whether we like it or not. The school cafeteria cooked everything from scratch, though no one can really say the food was good. In the big school building they still had several cold war era posters left in a few rooms, and the chemistry room and several hallways had murals across the walls we couldn't be looking at during class. I remember in the summer, sitting up in the crab apple tree reading a book. Or playing with a rubber ball, which instantly gathered a crowd of other kids because they didn't have one themselves or were too lazy to get it. But i had a hard time keeping up with them, being the most unathletic kid in the neighborhood. Children wore simple cotton clothes and didn't slough on make-up and hair gel. Being older was not about looks, but about maturity, knowing more, working harder, that being dictated by the society. I remember other things, like the phones with a round dials (using pulse rather than tone signal to connect, since the stepper switches were mechanical), most of the electronics being analog. I remember older plastics resins such as celluloid, and the carbureted cars, with the air filter being big and rou
Don't worry about the length of the reply. It's a very thoughtful response, and conveys images with clarity. The frightening thing is that the year you mention, 1986, is the year that I first met my wife. I like the idea that I have more life memories. I'm not really worried about getting older, because each day brings new experiences and these add to the rich tapestry that we call life. For instance, I have two daughters Catherine and Hannah and the things that they way and do bring a richness to my life that wasn't there before them. Do I regret waiting so long before we had them? No, because I spent this time working in different countries and gaining exposure to different cultures. This is what the passing of time gives to you. The opportunity to try new things, and to experience things that you haven't experienced before. The chance to learn new things, and occassionally the chance to do something truly wonderful. And that's what my life has been. Oh yes, and the chance to knock out code in the bits in between.
the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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For a tabbed text editor, i like Notepad++, which i use when i'm not writing code that requires VS (i mostly need that for a syntax checker). Notepad++ is nice as a "IDE", but the Windows Notepad doesn't have a thick bar at the top, which is why i keep it as "scrap paper". I wish i could turn off that as well, and simply have a blank page for depositing notes... Roswell :)
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CARoswellNX wrote:
but the Windows Notepad doesn't have a thick bar at the top, which is why i keep it as "scrap paper". I wish i could turn off that as well, and simply have a blank page for depositing notes...
Have you tried Sticky Notes[^] I use it every day and love it. The latest binaries are only available from the guy’s website.
I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley: