Ive had it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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After days and hours of trying to finish this code with it due tomorrow I have finally had enough. I am at the point of deleting and starting over just to get a different perspective. ARG!:mad:
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Aaron VanWieren wrote:
I am at the point of deleting and starting over just to get a different perspective.
Marc Clifton is very fast deleting code lines :laugh: ;)
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Aaron VanWieren wrote:
I am at the point of deleting and starting over just to get a different perspective.
Marc Clifton is very fast deleting code lines :laugh: ;)
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:Oddly I find that this happens alot, I get some great models down and then I can visualize it in my head(I don't have a photographic memory but I can see code and actually run it and debug it without being at a computer). It is frustrating. Of course in the end I look at the final product and grin with satisfaction at my masterpiece that almost wasn't!!!:-D
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After days and hours of trying to finish this code with it due tomorrow I have finally had enough. I am at the point of deleting and starting over just to get a different perspective. ARG!:mad:
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If it's due tomorrow, and you're about to delete it all, isn't that kind if a disaster ? I refuse to do all nighters. I start early, and the quality of my code atrophies after about midnight. 16 hours is long enough, anyhow, IMO. The fact that you're coding at all, the night before it is due, is a warning sign, unless it's due for the start of a test cycle.
Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert
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Oddly I find that this happens alot, I get some great models down and then I can visualize it in my head(I don't have a photographic memory but I can see code and actually run it and debug it without being at a computer). It is frustrating. Of course in the end I look at the final product and grin with satisfaction at my masterpiece that almost wasn't!!!:-D
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I can't tell you how often I've perfected a design in the shower, or in the garden. The great thing about working at home, is I can run inside and put it down right away.
Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert
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If it's due tomorrow, and you're about to delete it all, isn't that kind if a disaster ? I refuse to do all nighters. I start early, and the quality of my code atrophies after about midnight. 16 hours is long enough, anyhow, IMO. The fact that you're coding at all, the night before it is due, is a warning sign, unless it's due for the start of a test cycle.
Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert
It is the Alpha demo. Unfortunately the marketing people do not discuss with the engineers deadlines when a company is willing to shell out big bucks!! Next month is when it gets completed with march set for testing and additional development. I am currently finishing the back end components, then a month of UI and DB work. It is fun, a multi nested formula processor! Great times!
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It is the Alpha demo. Unfortunately the marketing people do not discuss with the engineers deadlines when a company is willing to shell out big bucks!! Next month is when it gets completed with march set for testing and additional development. I am currently finishing the back end components, then a month of UI and DB work. It is fun, a multi nested formula processor! Great times!
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Aaron VanWieren wrote:
Unfortunately the marketing people do not discuss with the engineers deadlines when a company is willing to shell out big bucks!!
ahh the old one, you and your team need to learn to sort the marketters out - the main problem with this is that pooter nerds like us dont tend to have great social skills and many of us are unable to articilate out positon properly...and if thats not enough we tend to appease by taking on these heavy workloads...and wind up right where you are right now Get tough with the marketters, i bet they're not up all night like you may very well be :) Bryce
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After days and hours of trying to finish this code with it due tomorrow I have finally had enough. I am at the point of deleting and starting over just to get a different perspective. ARG!:mad:
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First rule of coding-for-food: you can't just start over when you feel like it. Starting over is usually good for the code, but often enough bad for you. For a real life lesson: get a decent tutorial/book on refactoring, think ahead of what the code should look like, then start learning.
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First rule of coding-for-food: you can't just start over when you feel like it. Starting over is usually good for the code, but often enough bad for you. For a real life lesson: get a decent tutorial/book on refactoring, think ahead of what the code should look like, then start learning.
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Linkify!|Fold With Us!Actually I am really good at refactoring and have done quite a bit. I am actually rather experienced at development, just hit one of those overthinking and planning modes. I find sometimes just clearing the vs pallet really helps. Of course it is not all my code, just the current method or parts of a class. I also tend to keep the deleted stuff on textpad so it can be used. Sometimes I just need to see a clean slate. Then I can refactor. As I said, I tend to refactor some stuff better using textpad and my code window. Big refactors I avoid with this method.
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First rule of coding-for-food: you can't just start over when you feel like it. Starting over is usually good for the code, but often enough bad for you. For a real life lesson: get a decent tutorial/book on refactoring, think ahead of what the code should look like, then start learning.
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Linkify!|Fold With Us!Second rule of coding-for-food: Know your own process and what works and does not work for you!!!
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Actually I am really good at refactoring and have done quite a bit. I am actually rather experienced at development, just hit one of those overthinking and planning modes. I find sometimes just clearing the vs pallet really helps. Of course it is not all my code, just the current method or parts of a class. I also tend to keep the deleted stuff on textpad so it can be used. Sometimes I just need to see a clean slate. Then I can refactor. As I said, I tend to refactor some stuff better using textpad and my code window. Big refactors I avoid with this method.
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You could of course have played along, and posted "so I sat down, read that tutorial, refactored, and seen the light" ;)
Aaron VanWieren wrote:
just hit one of those overthinking and planning modes
I know what you mean... Keep the ideas, one worked out two years - quite well, I can say.
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Of course I copied it to notepad and then ctrA del and walla, I am on a new track. Just needed to vent. Watch now this will take me an hour what has taken me days to do so far. Gotta love coding!:-D
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:wtf: Maybe if you upgrade from Notepad, your code development won't be so painful. :-D
Matt Gerrans
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:wtf: Maybe if you upgrade from Notepad, your code development won't be so painful. :-D
Matt Gerrans
:laugh: After a marathon 22hrs of coding I am getting a little punchy!! I take these things on myself, I could have just said NO!! Instead here I am almost full circle from the start of my day yesterday. Better find someone to bring breakfast.;P:laugh:
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You could of course have played along, and posted "so I sat down, read that tutorial, refactored, and seen the light" ;)
Aaron VanWieren wrote:
just hit one of those overthinking and planning modes
I know what you mean... Keep the ideas, one worked out two years - quite well, I can say.
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I know what you mean... Keep the ideas, one worked out two years - quite well, I can say.
Actually my code in the head gets way too complicated and nothing works!
peterchen wrote:
You could of course have played along, and posted "so I sat down, read that tutorial, refactored, and seen the light"
Sorry man, its been 22hrs for me for an alpha demo and I am a little punchy. You know the things us programmers get hostile about... Calling another programmer unable to code:-D Actually I read everything I get my hands on with anything programming as it all helps add to the tool box and just when you think you know something, you discover something new. I looked at your blog, very thorough on the c++ instruction series!!!
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