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    dandy72
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    I'm so close to giving up on wireless entirely. Every time the microwave oven is in use, I see my data transfer rate drop--that by itself I could live with--but more often than not I get disconnected entirely if this persists for more than a minute. One of the routers I've tried even has a tendancy to freeze when this happens, and I have to power-cycle it. I tried using different channels in the router--no difference. I tried using different routers (a D-Link 624 and a Linksys WRT54G)--no difference. I have high-gain antennas on both the Linksys router and the PC (also using a Linksys PCI card)--no difference. I have a range extender--no difference. I tried using different wireless cards, including a USB adapter--no difference. I've updated to the most recent versions of the firmware for both my routers, boosted the signal, etc--no difference. Relocating the microwave oven isn't an option--it's got a space in the kitchen cabinets designed for it. The router is on the second floor. The PC accessing it is located in the basement, directly below in a straight line. It's only got two hardwood floors to go through. This isn't an apartment building with metal beams or anything--just a two-storey house out in the country. The neighbours are far away enough that I can't see my wireless signal if I bring my laptop over. They don't have wireless hardware of their own. I think I've exhausted all the common advice and FAQs I came across. Short of running good ol' CAT-5 through the walls, what else can I try? Is it time to break out the tin-foil hat and use it to wrap the microwave oven itself? :-D Oh, and those who believe the radiation produced by wireless hardware causes cancer--but will stand right in front of their microwave oven to watch their food spin around while cooking--can kiss my A$$.

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      I'm so close to giving up on wireless entirely. Every time the microwave oven is in use, I see my data transfer rate drop--that by itself I could live with--but more often than not I get disconnected entirely if this persists for more than a minute. One of the routers I've tried even has a tendancy to freeze when this happens, and I have to power-cycle it. I tried using different channels in the router--no difference. I tried using different routers (a D-Link 624 and a Linksys WRT54G)--no difference. I have high-gain antennas on both the Linksys router and the PC (also using a Linksys PCI card)--no difference. I have a range extender--no difference. I tried using different wireless cards, including a USB adapter--no difference. I've updated to the most recent versions of the firmware for both my routers, boosted the signal, etc--no difference. Relocating the microwave oven isn't an option--it's got a space in the kitchen cabinets designed for it. The router is on the second floor. The PC accessing it is located in the basement, directly below in a straight line. It's only got two hardwood floors to go through. This isn't an apartment building with metal beams or anything--just a two-storey house out in the country. The neighbours are far away enough that I can't see my wireless signal if I bring my laptop over. They don't have wireless hardware of their own. I think I've exhausted all the common advice and FAQs I came across. Short of running good ol' CAT-5 through the walls, what else can I try? Is it time to break out the tin-foil hat and use it to wrap the microwave oven itself? :-D Oh, and those who believe the radiation produced by wireless hardware causes cancer--but will stand right in front of their microwave oven to watch their food spin around while cooking--can kiss my A$$.

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      Miszou
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      Perhaps it's time for a new oven, before you irradiate yourself. It's the only variable that you haven't changed yet... I don't have any problems at all with my wireless/microwave setup. (Mind you, I'm still using 80211.B, so the slower transmission speed might be able to deal with the interference better)


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        I'm so close to giving up on wireless entirely. Every time the microwave oven is in use, I see my data transfer rate drop--that by itself I could live with--but more often than not I get disconnected entirely if this persists for more than a minute. One of the routers I've tried even has a tendancy to freeze when this happens, and I have to power-cycle it. I tried using different channels in the router--no difference. I tried using different routers (a D-Link 624 and a Linksys WRT54G)--no difference. I have high-gain antennas on both the Linksys router and the PC (also using a Linksys PCI card)--no difference. I have a range extender--no difference. I tried using different wireless cards, including a USB adapter--no difference. I've updated to the most recent versions of the firmware for both my routers, boosted the signal, etc--no difference. Relocating the microwave oven isn't an option--it's got a space in the kitchen cabinets designed for it. The router is on the second floor. The PC accessing it is located in the basement, directly below in a straight line. It's only got two hardwood floors to go through. This isn't an apartment building with metal beams or anything--just a two-storey house out in the country. The neighbours are far away enough that I can't see my wireless signal if I bring my laptop over. They don't have wireless hardware of their own. I think I've exhausted all the common advice and FAQs I came across. Short of running good ol' CAT-5 through the walls, what else can I try? Is it time to break out the tin-foil hat and use it to wrap the microwave oven itself? :-D Oh, and those who believe the radiation produced by wireless hardware causes cancer--but will stand right in front of their microwave oven to watch their food spin around while cooking--can kiss my A$$.

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        Yeah, use wires, but go Cat-6.

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          I'm so close to giving up on wireless entirely. Every time the microwave oven is in use, I see my data transfer rate drop--that by itself I could live with--but more often than not I get disconnected entirely if this persists for more than a minute. One of the routers I've tried even has a tendancy to freeze when this happens, and I have to power-cycle it. I tried using different channels in the router--no difference. I tried using different routers (a D-Link 624 and a Linksys WRT54G)--no difference. I have high-gain antennas on both the Linksys router and the PC (also using a Linksys PCI card)--no difference. I have a range extender--no difference. I tried using different wireless cards, including a USB adapter--no difference. I've updated to the most recent versions of the firmware for both my routers, boosted the signal, etc--no difference. Relocating the microwave oven isn't an option--it's got a space in the kitchen cabinets designed for it. The router is on the second floor. The PC accessing it is located in the basement, directly below in a straight line. It's only got two hardwood floors to go through. This isn't an apartment building with metal beams or anything--just a two-storey house out in the country. The neighbours are far away enough that I can't see my wireless signal if I bring my laptop over. They don't have wireless hardware of their own. I think I've exhausted all the common advice and FAQs I came across. Short of running good ol' CAT-5 through the walls, what else can I try? Is it time to break out the tin-foil hat and use it to wrap the microwave oven itself? :-D Oh, and those who believe the radiation produced by wireless hardware causes cancer--but will stand right in front of their microwave oven to watch their food spin around while cooking--can kiss my A$$.

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          Zero K
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          I've been using wireless in a few different place I've lived, always using G and never had a problem with a connection. I've always been around or infront of a microwave with no loss in signal strength and never had it drop. As suggested above, maybe the problem isn't the wireless at all.

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            I'm so close to giving up on wireless entirely. Every time the microwave oven is in use, I see my data transfer rate drop--that by itself I could live with--but more often than not I get disconnected entirely if this persists for more than a minute. One of the routers I've tried even has a tendancy to freeze when this happens, and I have to power-cycle it. I tried using different channels in the router--no difference. I tried using different routers (a D-Link 624 and a Linksys WRT54G)--no difference. I have high-gain antennas on both the Linksys router and the PC (also using a Linksys PCI card)--no difference. I have a range extender--no difference. I tried using different wireless cards, including a USB adapter--no difference. I've updated to the most recent versions of the firmware for both my routers, boosted the signal, etc--no difference. Relocating the microwave oven isn't an option--it's got a space in the kitchen cabinets designed for it. The router is on the second floor. The PC accessing it is located in the basement, directly below in a straight line. It's only got two hardwood floors to go through. This isn't an apartment building with metal beams or anything--just a two-storey house out in the country. The neighbours are far away enough that I can't see my wireless signal if I bring my laptop over. They don't have wireless hardware of their own. I think I've exhausted all the common advice and FAQs I came across. Short of running good ol' CAT-5 through the walls, what else can I try? Is it time to break out the tin-foil hat and use it to wrap the microwave oven itself? :-D Oh, and those who believe the radiation produced by wireless hardware causes cancer--but will stand right in front of their microwave oven to watch their food spin around while cooking--can kiss my A$$.

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            Roger Wright
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            I'd be looking at a new microwave oven - you have problems if that is really what's causing the interference. Microwave ovens operate in the 2.4 GHz band; they work because the water molecule is slightly polar with a resonant frequency of about 2.41 GHz. Because of the resonance, the microwaves cause the water molecules to vibrate within the food, resulting in frictional heating throughout. If it's radiating out-of-band, or leaking sufficiently to cause severe interference, it could become a health hazard.

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              I'm so close to giving up on wireless entirely. Every time the microwave oven is in use, I see my data transfer rate drop--that by itself I could live with--but more often than not I get disconnected entirely if this persists for more than a minute. One of the routers I've tried even has a tendancy to freeze when this happens, and I have to power-cycle it. I tried using different channels in the router--no difference. I tried using different routers (a D-Link 624 and a Linksys WRT54G)--no difference. I have high-gain antennas on both the Linksys router and the PC (also using a Linksys PCI card)--no difference. I have a range extender--no difference. I tried using different wireless cards, including a USB adapter--no difference. I've updated to the most recent versions of the firmware for both my routers, boosted the signal, etc--no difference. Relocating the microwave oven isn't an option--it's got a space in the kitchen cabinets designed for it. The router is on the second floor. The PC accessing it is located in the basement, directly below in a straight line. It's only got two hardwood floors to go through. This isn't an apartment building with metal beams or anything--just a two-storey house out in the country. The neighbours are far away enough that I can't see my wireless signal if I bring my laptop over. They don't have wireless hardware of their own. I think I've exhausted all the common advice and FAQs I came across. Short of running good ol' CAT-5 through the walls, what else can I try? Is it time to break out the tin-foil hat and use it to wrap the microwave oven itself? :-D Oh, and those who believe the radiation produced by wireless hardware causes cancer--but will stand right in front of their microwave oven to watch their food spin around while cooking--can kiss my A$$.

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              Rob Graham
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              Is the case on your Microwave still grounded?

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                I'm so close to giving up on wireless entirely. Every time the microwave oven is in use, I see my data transfer rate drop--that by itself I could live with--but more often than not I get disconnected entirely if this persists for more than a minute. One of the routers I've tried even has a tendancy to freeze when this happens, and I have to power-cycle it. I tried using different channels in the router--no difference. I tried using different routers (a D-Link 624 and a Linksys WRT54G)--no difference. I have high-gain antennas on both the Linksys router and the PC (also using a Linksys PCI card)--no difference. I have a range extender--no difference. I tried using different wireless cards, including a USB adapter--no difference. I've updated to the most recent versions of the firmware for both my routers, boosted the signal, etc--no difference. Relocating the microwave oven isn't an option--it's got a space in the kitchen cabinets designed for it. The router is on the second floor. The PC accessing it is located in the basement, directly below in a straight line. It's only got two hardwood floors to go through. This isn't an apartment building with metal beams or anything--just a two-storey house out in the country. The neighbours are far away enough that I can't see my wireless signal if I bring my laptop over. They don't have wireless hardware of their own. I think I've exhausted all the common advice and FAQs I came across. Short of running good ol' CAT-5 through the walls, what else can I try? Is it time to break out the tin-foil hat and use it to wrap the microwave oven itself? :-D Oh, and those who believe the radiation produced by wireless hardware causes cancer--but will stand right in front of their microwave oven to watch their food spin around while cooking--can kiss my A$$.

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                Member 96
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                Have you tried just putting sheets of foil on the cabinet walls it fits into? That might block the interference. Just tape them to the walls around it and see if it works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage[^]

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                  I'm so close to giving up on wireless entirely. Every time the microwave oven is in use, I see my data transfer rate drop--that by itself I could live with--but more often than not I get disconnected entirely if this persists for more than a minute. One of the routers I've tried even has a tendancy to freeze when this happens, and I have to power-cycle it. I tried using different channels in the router--no difference. I tried using different routers (a D-Link 624 and a Linksys WRT54G)--no difference. I have high-gain antennas on both the Linksys router and the PC (also using a Linksys PCI card)--no difference. I have a range extender--no difference. I tried using different wireless cards, including a USB adapter--no difference. I've updated to the most recent versions of the firmware for both my routers, boosted the signal, etc--no difference. Relocating the microwave oven isn't an option--it's got a space in the kitchen cabinets designed for it. The router is on the second floor. The PC accessing it is located in the basement, directly below in a straight line. It's only got two hardwood floors to go through. This isn't an apartment building with metal beams or anything--just a two-storey house out in the country. The neighbours are far away enough that I can't see my wireless signal if I bring my laptop over. They don't have wireless hardware of their own. I think I've exhausted all the common advice and FAQs I came across. Short of running good ol' CAT-5 through the walls, what else can I try? Is it time to break out the tin-foil hat and use it to wrap the microwave oven itself? :-D Oh, and those who believe the radiation produced by wireless hardware causes cancer--but will stand right in front of their microwave oven to watch their food spin around while cooking--can kiss my A$$.

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                  standgale
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                  It seems that this thread has quickly gone from "wireless sucks" to "your microwave is trying to kill you and your unborn children" :laugh:

                  "Your typical day is full of moments where you ask for a cup of coffee and someone hands you a bag of nails." - Scott Adams

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                    I'm so close to giving up on wireless entirely. Every time the microwave oven is in use, I see my data transfer rate drop--that by itself I could live with--but more often than not I get disconnected entirely if this persists for more than a minute. One of the routers I've tried even has a tendancy to freeze when this happens, and I have to power-cycle it. I tried using different channels in the router--no difference. I tried using different routers (a D-Link 624 and a Linksys WRT54G)--no difference. I have high-gain antennas on both the Linksys router and the PC (also using a Linksys PCI card)--no difference. I have a range extender--no difference. I tried using different wireless cards, including a USB adapter--no difference. I've updated to the most recent versions of the firmware for both my routers, boosted the signal, etc--no difference. Relocating the microwave oven isn't an option--it's got a space in the kitchen cabinets designed for it. The router is on the second floor. The PC accessing it is located in the basement, directly below in a straight line. It's only got two hardwood floors to go through. This isn't an apartment building with metal beams or anything--just a two-storey house out in the country. The neighbours are far away enough that I can't see my wireless signal if I bring my laptop over. They don't have wireless hardware of their own. I think I've exhausted all the common advice and FAQs I came across. Short of running good ol' CAT-5 through the walls, what else can I try? Is it time to break out the tin-foil hat and use it to wrap the microwave oven itself? :-D Oh, and those who believe the radiation produced by wireless hardware causes cancer--but will stand right in front of their microwave oven to watch their food spin around while cooking--can kiss my A$$.

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                    Michael A Barnhart
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                    Well I always trust wire. Question, how have you oriented the antena's? This is NOT my area of expertice but I do not think most radiate up or down but radial patterns. have you tried with the antennas horizontal versus vertical?

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                      Well I always trust wire. Question, how have you oriented the antena's? This is NOT my area of expertice but I do not think most radiate up or down but radial patterns. have you tried with the antennas horizontal versus vertical?

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                      Tim Craig
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                      Michael A. Barnhart wrote:

                      I do not think most radiate up or down but radial patterns.

                      According to the manual that came with my new high gain antenna, you're correct. The primary pattern is a torus arond the long axis of the antenna. Unless, of course, it's one of the directional antennas. :~

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