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    Bartosz Bien
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    ...or are they just fattened tray icons? I would like to start a discussion on sense of developing - and using - sidebar Gadgets. Personally, I am trying to keep my desktop very clean: it contains only the icons I use really often, and the tray area is kept as small as possible. I have nothing against having more elements on my desktop, but they have to be really useful and informative. At microsoftgadgets.com[^], among four highest rated gadgets are three games, namely: Othello, Web Mine Game and Sudoku Live. Personally, I don't see any sense in keeping on my screen games that I am not playing at the moment. The other highly rated type of gadgets is notes/reminders (Live Notes, Notes 1.0, ToDo List). This looks more reasonable, but I prefer reminders that pop up (and thus are so annoying that I instantly take an action to handle the task and get rid of the reminder). I agree that RSS gadgets can be useful, though there is often somewhat too little space to hold the number of items one would like to see. To recapitulate, I am not very convinced by the Gadgets technology. May you have a different opinion? Please share your observations and/or ideas to convince the undecided developers to delve into the gadget world. I've been thinking for some time what gadget I would like to use, and I think I could have profit from a Subversion notifier. Once some other team member commits his update to the server, my gadget could display an appropriate information. Still, I have a Visual Studio plugin to access SVN, so there is no ultimate need for such element. I will be pleased if you join this thread. -- modified at 12:10 Sunday 4th February, 2007

    Regards, BB http://spin.bartoszbien.com

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      ...or are they just fattened tray icons? I would like to start a discussion on sense of developing - and using - sidebar Gadgets. Personally, I am trying to keep my desktop very clean: it contains only the icons I use really often, and the tray area is kept as small as possible. I have nothing against having more elements on my desktop, but they have to be really useful and informative. At microsoftgadgets.com[^], among four highest rated gadgets are three games, namely: Othello, Web Mine Game and Sudoku Live. Personally, I don't see any sense in keeping on my screen games that I am not playing at the moment. The other highly rated type of gadgets is notes/reminders (Live Notes, Notes 1.0, ToDo List). This looks more reasonable, but I prefer reminders that pop up (and thus are so annoying that I instantly take an action to handle the task and get rid of the reminder). I agree that RSS gadgets can be useful, though there is often somewhat too little space to hold the number of items one would like to see. To recapitulate, I am not very convinced by the Gadgets technology. May you have a different opinion? Please share your observations and/or ideas to convince the undecided developers to delve into the gadget world. I've been thinking for some time what gadget I would like to use, and I think I could have profit from a Subversion notifier. Once some other team member commits his update to the server, my gadget could display an appropriate information. Still, I have a Visual Studio plugin to access SVN, so there is no ultimate need for such element. I will be pleased if you join this thread. -- modified at 12:10 Sunday 4th February, 2007

      Regards, BB http://spin.bartoszbien.com

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      Waldermort
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      I have yet to see a really useful gadget. What's the point in having games, picture shows and whatnot. The only gadget I do 'sometimes' pay attention to is the feeds. I live far away from home so the headlines do come in handy. I used to keep the sidebar below other windows, but since purchasing a widescreen monitor I have pinned it to the top. Only because some webpages look strange. On the whole, it's a waste of space.

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        ...or are they just fattened tray icons? I would like to start a discussion on sense of developing - and using - sidebar Gadgets. Personally, I am trying to keep my desktop very clean: it contains only the icons I use really often, and the tray area is kept as small as possible. I have nothing against having more elements on my desktop, but they have to be really useful and informative. At microsoftgadgets.com[^], among four highest rated gadgets are three games, namely: Othello, Web Mine Game and Sudoku Live. Personally, I don't see any sense in keeping on my screen games that I am not playing at the moment. The other highly rated type of gadgets is notes/reminders (Live Notes, Notes 1.0, ToDo List). This looks more reasonable, but I prefer reminders that pop up (and thus are so annoying that I instantly take an action to handle the task and get rid of the reminder). I agree that RSS gadgets can be useful, though there is often somewhat too little space to hold the number of items one would like to see. To recapitulate, I am not very convinced by the Gadgets technology. May you have a different opinion? Please share your observations and/or ideas to convince the undecided developers to delve into the gadget world. I've been thinking for some time what gadget I would like to use, and I think I could have profit from a Subversion notifier. Once some other team member commits his update to the server, my gadget could display an appropriate information. Still, I have a Visual Studio plugin to access SVN, so there is no ultimate need for such element. I will be pleased if you join this thread. -- modified at 12:10 Sunday 4th February, 2007

        Regards, BB http://spin.bartoszbien.com

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        I think they could come in handy, keep the fattened icons on the sidebar instead of all the small icons right below. Often those give a status which is hard to see on high screenresolutions. Anyway, that's what I would use it for... :-)

        V. I found a living worth working for, but haven't found work worth living for.

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          ...or are they just fattened tray icons? I would like to start a discussion on sense of developing - and using - sidebar Gadgets. Personally, I am trying to keep my desktop very clean: it contains only the icons I use really often, and the tray area is kept as small as possible. I have nothing against having more elements on my desktop, but they have to be really useful and informative. At microsoftgadgets.com[^], among four highest rated gadgets are three games, namely: Othello, Web Mine Game and Sudoku Live. Personally, I don't see any sense in keeping on my screen games that I am not playing at the moment. The other highly rated type of gadgets is notes/reminders (Live Notes, Notes 1.0, ToDo List). This looks more reasonable, but I prefer reminders that pop up (and thus are so annoying that I instantly take an action to handle the task and get rid of the reminder). I agree that RSS gadgets can be useful, though there is often somewhat too little space to hold the number of items one would like to see. To recapitulate, I am not very convinced by the Gadgets technology. May you have a different opinion? Please share your observations and/or ideas to convince the undecided developers to delve into the gadget world. I've been thinking for some time what gadget I would like to use, and I think I could have profit from a Subversion notifier. Once some other team member commits his update to the server, my gadget could display an appropriate information. Still, I have a Visual Studio plugin to access SVN, so there is no ultimate need for such element. I will be pleased if you join this thread. -- modified at 12:10 Sunday 4th February, 2007

          Regards, BB http://spin.bartoszbien.com

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          szukuro
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          I'm also not a huge fan, however I find the CPU meter gadget useful, at least it's far better then XP's task manager tray icon. Apart from this gadget, I only use an RSS gadget, but only for optical reasons as the sidebar looks empty with only one gadget :).

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            ...or are they just fattened tray icons? I would like to start a discussion on sense of developing - and using - sidebar Gadgets. Personally, I am trying to keep my desktop very clean: it contains only the icons I use really often, and the tray area is kept as small as possible. I have nothing against having more elements on my desktop, but they have to be really useful and informative. At microsoftgadgets.com[^], among four highest rated gadgets are three games, namely: Othello, Web Mine Game and Sudoku Live. Personally, I don't see any sense in keeping on my screen games that I am not playing at the moment. The other highly rated type of gadgets is notes/reminders (Live Notes, Notes 1.0, ToDo List). This looks more reasonable, but I prefer reminders that pop up (and thus are so annoying that I instantly take an action to handle the task and get rid of the reminder). I agree that RSS gadgets can be useful, though there is often somewhat too little space to hold the number of items one would like to see. To recapitulate, I am not very convinced by the Gadgets technology. May you have a different opinion? Please share your observations and/or ideas to convince the undecided developers to delve into the gadget world. I've been thinking for some time what gadget I would like to use, and I think I could have profit from a Subversion notifier. Once some other team member commits his update to the server, my gadget could display an appropriate information. Still, I have a Visual Studio plugin to access SVN, so there is no ultimate need for such element. I will be pleased if you join this thread. -- modified at 12:10 Sunday 4th February, 2007

            Regards, BB http://spin.bartoszbien.com

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            Well I've used Yahoo Widgets for ages (since back when it was called Konfabulator) Here's a list of the widgets I have all the time

            • A widget that shows me today's meetings from outlook
            • Two CPU usage meters (one for each CPU)
            • A rss feed summary widget (that shows an aggregated feed from an assortment of sites I read regularly)
            • A widget that tells me how much disk space there is left on my work drive (it goes red to warn me when I'm about to run out of space, so I don't waste time debugging crashes that turn out to be the disk being full!)
            • A little text-parsing calculator (that lets you type stuff like "x=42*sin(0.6);y=12*x; z=y*y; z") - far quicker than running calc
            • A 5 day weather forecast widget
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              Well I've used Yahoo Widgets for ages (since back when it was called Konfabulator) Here's a list of the widgets I have all the time

              • A widget that shows me today's meetings from outlook
              • Two CPU usage meters (one for each CPU)
              • A rss feed summary widget (that shows an aggregated feed from an assortment of sites I read regularly)
              • A widget that tells me how much disk space there is left on my work drive (it goes red to warn me when I'm about to run out of space, so I don't waste time debugging crashes that turn out to be the disk being full!)
              • A little text-parsing calculator (that lets you type stuff like "x=42*sin(0.6);y=12*x; z=y*y; z") - far quicker than running calc
              • A 5 day weather forecast widget
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              LFirth
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              I used Konfabulator/YahooWidgets too... mine are: - Upcoming events from Lightening (calendar within Thunderbird) - Gmail notifier - RSS Feeds - CPU monitor - Memory monitor - Post-It notes for temporary idea's - Weather map (fancy animated one!) I usually have the CPU/Mem ones pinned to top layer (but slightly transparent and "click-thoughable" so I can access buttons below), the rest are underneath but will pop to the top by pressing a function button. They really help with programming when finding the bottle necks in image processing code, but some widgets just eat cycles and memory! I think it is just sad that M$ decided to rename Widgets to Gadgets.. just another way to confuse non-techies into thinking M$ did it first, and they don't even do them well either!

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                ...or are they just fattened tray icons? I would like to start a discussion on sense of developing - and using - sidebar Gadgets. Personally, I am trying to keep my desktop very clean: it contains only the icons I use really often, and the tray area is kept as small as possible. I have nothing against having more elements on my desktop, but they have to be really useful and informative. At microsoftgadgets.com[^], among four highest rated gadgets are three games, namely: Othello, Web Mine Game and Sudoku Live. Personally, I don't see any sense in keeping on my screen games that I am not playing at the moment. The other highly rated type of gadgets is notes/reminders (Live Notes, Notes 1.0, ToDo List). This looks more reasonable, but I prefer reminders that pop up (and thus are so annoying that I instantly take an action to handle the task and get rid of the reminder). I agree that RSS gadgets can be useful, though there is often somewhat too little space to hold the number of items one would like to see. To recapitulate, I am not very convinced by the Gadgets technology. May you have a different opinion? Please share your observations and/or ideas to convince the undecided developers to delve into the gadget world. I've been thinking for some time what gadget I would like to use, and I think I could have profit from a Subversion notifier. Once some other team member commits his update to the server, my gadget could display an appropriate information. Still, I have a Visual Studio plugin to access SVN, so there is no ultimate need for such element. I will be pleased if you join this thread. -- modified at 12:10 Sunday 4th February, 2007

                Regards, BB http://spin.bartoszbien.com

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                Personally, i see no point at all in them. Once i start up an IDE or web browser, i cant see my desktop any more. Why put info in the one place that never gets seen after i start using my PC?

                -- Real programmers don't comment their code. It was hard to write, it should be hard to understand.

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                  ...or are they just fattened tray icons? I would like to start a discussion on sense of developing - and using - sidebar Gadgets. Personally, I am trying to keep my desktop very clean: it contains only the icons I use really often, and the tray area is kept as small as possible. I have nothing against having more elements on my desktop, but they have to be really useful and informative. At microsoftgadgets.com[^], among four highest rated gadgets are three games, namely: Othello, Web Mine Game and Sudoku Live. Personally, I don't see any sense in keeping on my screen games that I am not playing at the moment. The other highly rated type of gadgets is notes/reminders (Live Notes, Notes 1.0, ToDo List). This looks more reasonable, but I prefer reminders that pop up (and thus are so annoying that I instantly take an action to handle the task and get rid of the reminder). I agree that RSS gadgets can be useful, though there is often somewhat too little space to hold the number of items one would like to see. To recapitulate, I am not very convinced by the Gadgets technology. May you have a different opinion? Please share your observations and/or ideas to convince the undecided developers to delve into the gadget world. I've been thinking for some time what gadget I would like to use, and I think I could have profit from a Subversion notifier. Once some other team member commits his update to the server, my gadget could display an appropriate information. Still, I have a Visual Studio plugin to access SVN, so there is no ultimate need for such element. I will be pleased if you join this thread. -- modified at 12:10 Sunday 4th February, 2007

                  Regards, BB http://spin.bartoszbien.com

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                  peterchen
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                  With a third monitor, I'd sure have some room for gadgets. They do make sense if they convey information, or provide a custom "always there" control interface. And they are cute visual toys for the cute toy collectors. Like a bed full of plush teddies.


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