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    Chris Maunder
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    It's official. Starbucks coffee really is that bad[^].

    cheers, Chris Maunder

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      It's official. Starbucks coffee really is that bad[^].

      cheers, Chris Maunder

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      Nish Nishant
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      Glad to know I am not the only person alive who is unable to figure out why Starbucks is so popular. Is it just a brand-name thing then?

      Regards, Nish


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        It's official. Starbucks coffee really is that bad[^].

        cheers, Chris Maunder

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        McDonalds use highly automated espresso machines that remove the need for staff training. They'll never be as good as an experienced barista with a high quality manual machine but they do make a consistent coffee. Most of the kids making coffee at Starbucks are trained well but lack experience. All sorts of things can affect the way coffee is made from temp and humidity to what kind of grass the cows eat. A good barista will understand this (and a lot more) and compensate. The thing that annoys me at Starbucks is they charge like a wounded bull and then refuse to put sugar in your coffee for you. At that price I dont expect to have to finish the job

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          McDonalds use highly automated espresso machines that remove the need for staff training. They'll never be as good as an experienced barista with a high quality manual machine but they do make a consistent coffee. Most of the kids making coffee at Starbucks are trained well but lack experience. All sorts of things can affect the way coffee is made from temp and humidity to what kind of grass the cows eat. A good barista will understand this (and a lot more) and compensate. The thing that annoys me at Starbucks is they charge like a wounded bull and then refuse to put sugar in your coffee for you. At that price I dont expect to have to finish the job

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          Christian Graus
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          Josh Gray wrote:

          A good barista will understand this (and a lot more) and compensate.

          They will compensate for what the cows ate ? I know what you're saying, and you're right. But, I just couldn't help it. I sold coffee for years, and we lost some big accounts to staff who just didn't care, and management who had no idea.

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          At that price I dont expect to have to finish the job

          I am so tempted to make that my sig...

          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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            It's official. Starbucks coffee really is that bad[^].

            cheers, Chris Maunder

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            Christian Graus
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            But, it's not like you didn't already know that ? To be beaten my McDonalds is pretty lame tho, depending on the location. They don't use automatic machines in Melbourne, do they ? As far as I recall, Melbourne is where McCafe started, using Mocopan coffee. It's all marketing. I used to make and sell chocolate, and we would melt compound chocolate, add nuts, and sell it at a premium price. At our market stall, I'd have trouble keeping a straight face when people said 'it's so creamy'. That's when I learned that people will convince themselves of what they already believe, based on superficial things like our packaging. I didn't create this crime on good taste, I was just given a job there.

            Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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              It's official. Starbucks coffee really is that bad[^].

              cheers, Chris Maunder

              CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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              Coffee at Starbucks? Next you'll tell me they sell ice cream at Dairy Queen... :rolleyes:

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                Josh Gray wrote:

                A good barista will understand this (and a lot more) and compensate.

                They will compensate for what the cows ate ? I know what you're saying, and you're right. But, I just couldn't help it. I sold coffee for years, and we lost some big accounts to staff who just didn't care, and management who had no idea.

                Josh Gray wrote:

                At that price I dont expect to have to finish the job

                I am so tempted to make that my sig...

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                Christian Graus wrote:

                They will compensate for what the cows ate ?

                Yeah, at differnt times of the year the grass is different and that can infulence the way the milk frothes.

                Christian Graus wrote:

                I know what you're saying, and you're right. But, I just couldn't help it. I sold coffee for years, and we lost some big accounts to staff who just didn't care, and management who had no idea.

                Most cafe's are to coffee what Coon is to cheese. Coffee and espresso machines are a hobby for me and its a huge and expensive subject. If you talk to the guys that travel around the world to compete in barista competitions you'll realise how much effort can go into that 30ml drink

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                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  They will compensate for what the cows ate ?

                  Yeah, at differnt times of the year the grass is different and that can infulence the way the milk frothes.

                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  I know what you're saying, and you're right. But, I just couldn't help it. I sold coffee for years, and we lost some big accounts to staff who just didn't care, and management who had no idea.

                  Most cafe's are to coffee what Coon is to cheese. Coffee and espresso machines are a hobby for me and its a huge and expensive subject. If you talk to the guys that travel around the world to compete in barista competitions you'll realise how much effort can go into that 30ml drink

                  System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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                  Christian Graus
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                  Josh Gray wrote:

                  Yeah, at differnt times of the year the grass is different and that can infulence the way the milk frothes

                  Ah, I did know that. Clover, right ? Most of MY clients, when told that, told me all year around the clover was why they could not froth milk.

                  Josh Gray wrote:

                  Most cafe's are to coffee what Coon is to cheese.

                  Do you mean Kraft 'Cheddar' ? :P I know exactly what you're saying, an example of my clients in Hobart - the guy who kicked me out because he found out if you made cappuccino with international roast, there was no water in it ( and that made it the best you could get ).

                  Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                    It's official. Starbucks coffee really is that bad[^].

                    cheers, Chris Maunder

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                    All I can say is, no matter how you look at it, thank God I don't drink coffee! Marc

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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      They will compensate for what the cows ate ?

                      Yeah, at differnt times of the year the grass is different and that can infulence the way the milk frothes.

                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      I know what you're saying, and you're right. But, I just couldn't help it. I sold coffee for years, and we lost some big accounts to staff who just didn't care, and management who had no idea.

                      Most cafe's are to coffee what Coon is to cheese. Coffee and espresso machines are a hobby for me and its a huge and expensive subject. If you talk to the guys that travel around the world to compete in barista competitions you'll realise how much effort can go into that 30ml drink

                      System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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                      Maybe you can help me then... I recently purchased a reusable filter for a auto-drip machine. The reason being that I want to reduce my non-recyclable paper consumption. The problem is the mesh isn't fine enough and grounds find there way into the carafe. Actually more like a fine coffee silt that makes the last cup unusable. I've talked to a couple of people and they've gone back to paper. Do you have a recommendation for a filter to try? Something to look for? Are they all like this?

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                      Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
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                        It's official. Starbucks coffee really is that bad[^].

                        cheers, Chris Maunder

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                        I really don't care how my coffee tastes as long as it tastes like coffee. I microwave a cup up water, put a couple teaspoons of coffee grinds in and stir. I drink it like that, grinds and all.

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                          It's official. Starbucks coffee really is that bad[^].

                          cheers, Chris Maunder

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                          brianwelsch
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                          Even Waffle House serves better coffee than Starbucks. Though that shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that's read the sign on the wall in WH clearly stating: "America's best coffee". :rolleyes:

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                            Maybe you can help me then... I recently purchased a reusable filter for a auto-drip machine. The reason being that I want to reduce my non-recyclable paper consumption. The problem is the mesh isn't fine enough and grounds find there way into the carafe. Actually more like a fine coffee silt that makes the last cup unusable. I've talked to a couple of people and they've gone back to paper. Do you have a recommendation for a filter to try? Something to look for? Are they all like this?

                            BW


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                            Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
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                            brianwelsch wrote:

                            auto-drip machine.

                            I know very little about these Im sorry. I would guess that your options are - Adjust the grind of the beans so its not as fine. This will probably make the coffee weaker, you can compensate by using more coffee but thats probably not what you want - Use two filters one inside the other and rotate one 90 degrees so the holes dont line up exactly. Again, probably not what you want to have to do Sorry I cant help more :)

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                              Coffee at Starbucks? Next you'll tell me they sell ice cream at Dairy Queen... :rolleyes:

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                              Have you tried the Blueberry Green Tea Frap. While, it doesn't resemble any green tea I've ever had, it is a refreshing summertime beverage. And at a mere $3.50 a pop, who could resist?

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                                brianwelsch wrote:

                                auto-drip machine.

                                I know very little about these Im sorry. I would guess that your options are - Adjust the grind of the beans so its not as fine. This will probably make the coffee weaker, you can compensate by using more coffee but thats probably not what you want - Use two filters one inside the other and rotate one 90 degrees so the holes dont line up exactly. Again, probably not what you want to have to do Sorry I cant help more :)

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                                Never hurts to ask. :) Thanks.

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                                  Have you tried the Blueberry Green Tea Frap. While, it doesn't resemble any green tea I've ever had, it is a refreshing summertime beverage. And at a mere $3.50 a pop, who could resist?

                                  BW


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                                  No. I've tried the Green Tea Frap though; it was... very green.

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                                    Maybe you can help me then... I recently purchased a reusable filter for a auto-drip machine. The reason being that I want to reduce my non-recyclable paper consumption. The problem is the mesh isn't fine enough and grounds find there way into the carafe. Actually more like a fine coffee silt that makes the last cup unusable. I've talked to a couple of people and they've gone back to paper. Do you have a recommendation for a filter to try? Something to look for? Are they all like this?

                                    BW


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                                    Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
                                    -- Neil Peart

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                                    I use one of those, and initially had the same problem. As CG suggested, i just don't grind the coffee as fine, and use more of it. Actually tastes better that way (to me at least)...

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                                      I use one of those, and initially had the same problem. As CG suggested, i just don't grind the coffee as fine, and use more of it. Actually tastes better that way (to me at least)...

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                                      Was looking at some gold mesh filters online, and they said they were made for medium grind, so I think that's probably what I'll have to do. Damn environment!

                                      BW


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                                        I use one of those, and initially had the same problem. As CG suggested, i just don't grind the coffee as fine, and use more of it. Actually tastes better that way (to me at least)...

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                                        Shog9 wrote:

                                        As CG suggested

                                        Bloody Aussies, they're all the same :)

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                                          Shog9 wrote:

                                          As CG suggested

                                          Bloody Aussies, they're all the same :)

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                                          LOL !!!

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