Liberal, Middle Class, White, Politically Correct Guilt.
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Officially around 2 million and growing. They are rapidly becoming the most powerful political lobby. When you sat only a few are extremists do you mean 10%? 1%? At 1% it is still 20000 people: easily enough to cause mayhem whenever and wherever tehy choose and the tacit acceptance by oridinary muslims does not help. When was the last time a prominent muslim, say from the Muslim Council of Britain, came out and categorically stated that extremism must end and msulims must integrate into the indiginous culture? What was that silence? Move here? Can't wait to leave.
digital man wrote:
At 1% it is still 20000 people: easily enough to cause mayhem whenever and wherever tehy choose and the tacit acceptance by oridinary muslims does not help.
What are they waiting for? Given how peaceful things are relative to your scenario, maybe your estimate of the number of people with serious violent intent is a wildly inflated.
John Carson
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Practise on your jokes a little more, they are a bit weak.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
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Saw a program about unruly kids terrorising housing estates in the UK. One guy grabbed a kid, took back to his house to appologise to his mum, who he had abused verbally. The guy then gets charged with kidnaping and spends a week in the nick. Same goes for radical Islam. We see videos where racial abuse is heaped on Chriatians and Jews, and yet we do nothing, we allow this poison to spread infecting the minds of young impressionable Muslim men to the point where they strap on explosives and kill innocent people. What kind of feebleness has grown into our society in Britain whereby we are too afraid to intervene? To afraid to do something, to affraid to stand up and defend our society from attack? When do we get of our guilt ridden, white, middle class arses and defend our beliefs, our society, our values that we do hold, and do represent some of the highest acchievements of society? We are weak, pathetic creatures, loosing our will to live, and by doing so will be overrun by vermin. I am voting British National Party when I move back there. And I am going to beat the crap out of any kid I see vandalising something, and assasinate any sicko religious wanker parading around my country preaching Jihad or wearing 'I love Al Quaeda' headscarves. Because if the Police or the Criminal Justice System wont act, I, and people like me, will.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
"Because if the Police or the Criminal Justice System wont act, I, and people like me, will." How, by posting on internet forums?
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digital man wrote:
Oh, he really is.
I am of course ranting here. But by doing so indicating what the average man might be thinking. However, if it came to a time where I lived in Brum say, and my daughter got abuse because she wasnt wearing a Burkah in the street, well, I might just sign up for the BNP. It depends how far I am pushed, and if it came to a crunch, I would act.
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"Because if the Police or the Criminal Justice System wont act, I, and people like me, will." How, by posting on internet forums?
Ægidius Ahenobarbus wrote:
How, by posting on internet forums?
Yes. Its a start. We have to raise awareness of what is a very threatening issue in the UK. OK we dont see it in Devon, but then we live in one of the last bastions of true Britishness, where there is still some level of politeness, where there is still majority rule, rather than minority rule. And I dont just mean a crack down on extreamist Islam, I also include a crack down on antisocial behaviour, and a reversal of inverse snobbery, where the lowest traits in society are celebrated, and by that I mean the celebration of the scum ellement in the UK, that bottom 5% who binge drink and get into fights, who commit road rage, who have no standards. Currently we are far too scared of being labled a snob, of being called 'privaleged', to deal with this kind of behaviour. I have seen it in my sister, who talks about how privaleged they are to go on two skiing holidays a year. I told her she had worked her but off to get where she is and deserves all the rewards her hard work brings her. There is no need to be ashamed of sucess, ashamed of having standards. Its about time we recognised that and brought that attitude back into our country.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
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Saw a program about unruly kids terrorising housing estates in the UK. One guy grabbed a kid, took back to his house to appologise to his mum, who he had abused verbally. The guy then gets charged with kidnaping and spends a week in the nick. Same goes for radical Islam. We see videos where racial abuse is heaped on Chriatians and Jews, and yet we do nothing, we allow this poison to spread infecting the minds of young impressionable Muslim men to the point where they strap on explosives and kill innocent people. What kind of feebleness has grown into our society in Britain whereby we are too afraid to intervene? To afraid to do something, to affraid to stand up and defend our society from attack? When do we get of our guilt ridden, white, middle class arses and defend our beliefs, our society, our values that we do hold, and do represent some of the highest acchievements of society? We are weak, pathetic creatures, loosing our will to live, and by doing so will be overrun by vermin. I am voting British National Party when I move back there. And I am going to beat the crap out of any kid I see vandalising something, and assasinate any sicko religious wanker parading around my country preaching Jihad or wearing 'I love Al Quaeda' headscarves. Because if the Police or the Criminal Justice System wont act, I, and people like me, will.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
Vote Nazi for a brighter tomorrow. I think not.
Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette
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Ægidius Ahenobarbus wrote:
How, by posting on internet forums?
Yes. Its a start. We have to raise awareness of what is a very threatening issue in the UK. OK we dont see it in Devon, but then we live in one of the last bastions of true Britishness, where there is still some level of politeness, where there is still majority rule, rather than minority rule. And I dont just mean a crack down on extreamist Islam, I also include a crack down on antisocial behaviour, and a reversal of inverse snobbery, where the lowest traits in society are celebrated, and by that I mean the celebration of the scum ellement in the UK, that bottom 5% who binge drink and get into fights, who commit road rage, who have no standards. Currently we are far too scared of being labled a snob, of being called 'privaleged', to deal with this kind of behaviour. I have seen it in my sister, who talks about how privaleged they are to go on two skiing holidays a year. I told her she had worked her but off to get where she is and deserves all the rewards her hard work brings her. There is no need to be ashamed of sucess, ashamed of having standards. Its about time we recognised that and brought that attitude back into our country.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
Where abouts in devon are you?
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Vote Nazi for a brighter tomorrow. I think not.
Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette
Finally someone brought that up. If it wasnt for the very long shadow Naziism has cast over the 20th century we would not be so scared of stating that we have pride in our country, that we dont want to see our society degraded. If Nazism hadnt happened, there would be a lot more support today for right wing policies.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
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Where abouts in devon are you?
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Vote Nazi for a brighter tomorrow. I think not.
Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette
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The BNP is kind of full of neo Nazis. I ask for an exemption.
Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette
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Finally someone brought that up. If it wasnt for the very long shadow Naziism has cast over the 20th century we would not be so scared of stating that we have pride in our country, that we dont want to see our society degraded. If Nazism hadnt happened, there would be a lot more support today for right wing policies.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
"If Nazism hadnt happened, there would be a lot more support today for right wing policies. " Is that what makes you think Nazism was a bit of a shame?
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"If Nazism hadnt happened, there would be a lot more support today for right wing policies. " Is that what makes you think Nazism was a bit of a shame?
sure, it was a shame. (said sarcasticly). Dont forget, if Hitler hadnt started on the Jews, and European expansion, he would have been remembered by history as one of the worlds greates leaders.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
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Saw a program about unruly kids terrorising housing estates in the UK. One guy grabbed a kid, took back to his house to appologise to his mum, who he had abused verbally. The guy then gets charged with kidnaping and spends a week in the nick. Same goes for radical Islam. We see videos where racial abuse is heaped on Chriatians and Jews, and yet we do nothing, we allow this poison to spread infecting the minds of young impressionable Muslim men to the point where they strap on explosives and kill innocent people. What kind of feebleness has grown into our society in Britain whereby we are too afraid to intervene? To afraid to do something, to affraid to stand up and defend our society from attack? When do we get of our guilt ridden, white, middle class arses and defend our beliefs, our society, our values that we do hold, and do represent some of the highest acchievements of society? We are weak, pathetic creatures, loosing our will to live, and by doing so will be overrun by vermin. I am voting British National Party when I move back there. And I am going to beat the crap out of any kid I see vandalising something, and assasinate any sicko religious wanker parading around my country preaching Jihad or wearing 'I love Al Quaeda' headscarves. Because if the Police or the Criminal Justice System wont act, I, and people like me, will.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
Fat_Boy, The concern you express seems to ne to be just slightly at odds with your sig: "Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception." Your post presupposes that truth is objective, your sig denies that truth is objective. Might it not be a good idea to figure out which it is?
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Fat_Boy, The concern you express seems to ne to be just slightly at odds with your sig: "Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception." Your post presupposes that truth is objective, your sig denies that truth is objective. Might it not be a good idea to figure out which it is?
I dont see why. A fat person can be as easially offended by the behaviour of antisocial louts and mad muslims as a thin person? In any case I am not actually fat, take a lok at my photo, I just use this psuedonym beause it brings out peoples feeling more strongly.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
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I dont see why. A fat person can be as easially offended by the behaviour of antisocial louts and mad muslims as a thin person? In any case I am not actually fat, take a lok at my photo, I just use this psuedonym beause it brings out peoples feeling more strongly.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
What does your relative thickness have to do with what I said? Once again: Your sig ("Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception") denies that truth is objective, but your objection to the "behaviour of antisocial louts and mad muslims" -- indeed, your very labeling of it as such -- is meaningless if truth is not objective. It just seems to me that it would be helpful to you to clarify your thinking on this point: Is truth real or is truth a matter of opinion/assertion (or perhaps even of raw power). These "mad muslims" (and even the 'sane' ones, for that matter) approach the question of taking over Britain and Europe from the same perspective your sig asserts. Since you appear to agree with them on such a foundational level, I am mystified at your objections. Do you object to what's going on because it's 'wrong' (whatever that word is supposed to mean), or do you object because the Muslims' "subjection of reality" is not the one you had in mind? If the basis of your objection is the former, you really ought to ditch the sig and the thinking that goes along with it. If the basis of your objection is the latter ... hmmm, I have no idea what you ought to do, since 'ought' is pretty much meaningless if truth is subjective. I suppose you have two options: 1) bend over and take it, or 2) bend over and say "W'allah, W'allah, bing-bang," or whatever the appropriate phrase is for conversion to Islam -- it's for certain that your governing class' "truth" is that you are way out of line, possibly even a criminal, for even suggesting that there is a problem.
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Finally someone brought that up. If it wasnt for the very long shadow Naziism has cast over the 20th century we would not be so scared of stating that we have pride in our country, that we dont want to see our society degraded. If Nazism hadnt happened, there would be a lot more support today for right wing policies.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
"If Nazism hadnt happened, there would be a lot more support today for right wing policies." I don't doubt that this will be quite a shock to you and to most others who frequent this forum: Nazism was not 'of the right;' rather, it was a 'left-wing' phenomenon. I would be surprized if many of you can even process that statement, much less come to see that it is objectively true.
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What does your relative thickness have to do with what I said? Once again: Your sig ("Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception") denies that truth is objective, but your objection to the "behaviour of antisocial louts and mad muslims" -- indeed, your very labeling of it as such -- is meaningless if truth is not objective. It just seems to me that it would be helpful to you to clarify your thinking on this point: Is truth real or is truth a matter of opinion/assertion (or perhaps even of raw power). These "mad muslims" (and even the 'sane' ones, for that matter) approach the question of taking over Britain and Europe from the same perspective your sig asserts. Since you appear to agree with them on such a foundational level, I am mystified at your objections. Do you object to what's going on because it's 'wrong' (whatever that word is supposed to mean), or do you object because the Muslims' "subjection of reality" is not the one you had in mind? If the basis of your objection is the former, you really ought to ditch the sig and the thinking that goes along with it. If the basis of your objection is the latter ... hmmm, I have no idea what you ought to do, since 'ought' is pretty much meaningless if truth is subjective. I suppose you have two options: 1) bend over and take it, or 2) bend over and say "W'allah, W'allah, bing-bang," or whatever the appropriate phrase is for conversion to Islam -- it's for certain that your governing class' "truth" is that you are way out of line, possibly even a criminal, for even suggesting that there is a problem.
It all depends on how you define truth and reality. It isnt hard to figure out if you debate it through a few times.
Ilíon wrote:
I am mystified at your objections
Really? You think Sharia law in the UK isnt so obviously a revolting idea that you are mystified?
Ilíon wrote:
you are way out of line, possibly even a criminal, for even suggesting that there is a problem.
WTF? What are you, in favour of Sharia law in the UK?
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"If Nazism hadnt happened, there would be a lot more support today for right wing policies." I don't doubt that this will be quite a shock to you and to most others who frequent this forum: Nazism was not 'of the right;' rather, it was a 'left-wing' phenomenon. I would be surprized if many of you can even process that statement, much less come to see that it is objectively true.
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You think you are real clever dont you? And that you are the only one? Well, perhaps we should call you Kyle.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception