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  • R Ryan Roberts

    Vote Nazi for a brighter tomorrow. I think not.

    Ryan

    "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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    Finally someone brought that up. If it wasnt for the very long shadow Naziism has cast over the 20th century we would not be so scared of stating that we have pride in our country, that we dont want to see our society degraded. If Nazism hadnt happened, there would be a lot more support today for right wing policies.

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      Where abouts in devon are you?

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      I was born in Newton Abbot, I live in Belgium at the moment, but I come back quite often. y wifes from Paignton.

      Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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      • R Ryan Roberts

        Vote Nazi for a brighter tomorrow. I think not.

        Ryan

        "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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        Dan Neely
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        You loose!

        -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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          You loose!

          -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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          Ryan Roberts
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          The BNP is kind of full of neo Nazis. I ask for an exemption.

          Ryan

          "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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            Finally someone brought that up. If it wasnt for the very long shadow Naziism has cast over the 20th century we would not be so scared of stating that we have pride in our country, that we dont want to see our society degraded. If Nazism hadnt happened, there would be a lot more support today for right wing policies.

            Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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            "If Nazism hadnt happened, there would be a lot more support today for right wing policies. " Is that what makes you think Nazism was a bit of a shame?

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              "If Nazism hadnt happened, there would be a lot more support today for right wing policies. " Is that what makes you think Nazism was a bit of a shame?

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              sure, it was a shame. (said sarcasticly). Dont forget, if Hitler hadnt started on the Jews, and European expansion, he would have been remembered by history as one of the worlds greates leaders.

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                Saw a program about unruly kids terrorising housing estates in the UK. One guy grabbed a kid, took back to his house to appologise to his mum, who he had abused verbally. The guy then gets charged with kidnaping and spends a week in the nick. Same goes for radical Islam. We see videos where racial abuse is heaped on Chriatians and Jews, and yet we do nothing, we allow this poison to spread infecting the minds of young impressionable Muslim men to the point where they strap on explosives and kill innocent people. What kind of feebleness has grown into our society in Britain whereby we are too afraid to intervene? To afraid to do something, to affraid to stand up and defend our society from attack? When do we get of our guilt ridden, white, middle class arses and defend our beliefs, our society, our values that we do hold, and do represent some of the highest acchievements of society? We are weak, pathetic creatures, loosing our will to live, and by doing so will be overrun by vermin. I am voting British National Party when I move back there. And I am going to beat the crap out of any kid I see vandalising something, and assasinate any sicko religious wanker parading around my country preaching Jihad or wearing 'I love Al Quaeda' headscarves. Because if the Police or the Criminal Justice System wont act, I, and people like me, will.

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                Ilion
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                Fat_Boy, The concern you express seems to ne to be just slightly at odds with your sig: "Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception." Your post presupposes that truth is objective, your sig denies that truth is objective. Might it not be a good idea to figure out which it is?

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                  Fat_Boy, The concern you express seems to ne to be just slightly at odds with your sig: "Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception." Your post presupposes that truth is objective, your sig denies that truth is objective. Might it not be a good idea to figure out which it is?

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                  I dont see why. A fat person can be as easially offended by the behaviour of antisocial louts and mad muslims as a thin person? In any case I am not actually fat, take a lok at my photo, I just use this psuedonym beause it brings out peoples feeling more strongly.

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                    I dont see why. A fat person can be as easially offended by the behaviour of antisocial louts and mad muslims as a thin person? In any case I am not actually fat, take a lok at my photo, I just use this psuedonym beause it brings out peoples feeling more strongly.

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                    What does your relative thickness have to do with what I said? Once again: Your sig ("Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception") denies that truth is objective, but your objection to the "behaviour of antisocial louts and mad muslims" -- indeed, your very labeling of it as such -- is meaningless if truth is not objective. It just seems to me that it would be helpful to you to clarify your thinking on this point: Is truth real or is truth a matter of opinion/assertion (or perhaps even of raw power). These "mad muslims" (and even the 'sane' ones, for that matter) approach the question of taking over Britain and Europe from the same perspective your sig asserts. Since you appear to agree with them on such a foundational level, I am mystified at your objections. Do you object to what's going on because it's 'wrong' (whatever that word is supposed to mean), or do you object because the Muslims' "subjection of reality" is not the one you had in mind? If the basis of your objection is the former, you really ought to ditch the sig and the thinking that goes along with it. If the basis of your objection is the latter ... hmmm, I have no idea what you ought to do, since 'ought' is pretty much meaningless if truth is subjective. I suppose you have two options: 1) bend over and take it, or 2) bend over and say "W'allah, W'allah, bing-bang," or whatever the appropriate phrase is for conversion to Islam -- it's for certain that your governing class' "truth" is that you are way out of line, possibly even a criminal, for even suggesting that there is a problem.

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                      Finally someone brought that up. If it wasnt for the very long shadow Naziism has cast over the 20th century we would not be so scared of stating that we have pride in our country, that we dont want to see our society degraded. If Nazism hadnt happened, there would be a lot more support today for right wing policies.

                      Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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                      "If Nazism hadnt happened, there would be a lot more support today for right wing policies." I don't doubt that this will be quite a shock to you and to most others who frequent this forum: Nazism was not 'of the right;' rather, it was a 'left-wing' phenomenon. I would be surprized if many of you can even process that statement, much less come to see that it is objectively true.

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                        What does your relative thickness have to do with what I said? Once again: Your sig ("Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception") denies that truth is objective, but your objection to the "behaviour of antisocial louts and mad muslims" -- indeed, your very labeling of it as such -- is meaningless if truth is not objective. It just seems to me that it would be helpful to you to clarify your thinking on this point: Is truth real or is truth a matter of opinion/assertion (or perhaps even of raw power). These "mad muslims" (and even the 'sane' ones, for that matter) approach the question of taking over Britain and Europe from the same perspective your sig asserts. Since you appear to agree with them on such a foundational level, I am mystified at your objections. Do you object to what's going on because it's 'wrong' (whatever that word is supposed to mean), or do you object because the Muslims' "subjection of reality" is not the one you had in mind? If the basis of your objection is the former, you really ought to ditch the sig and the thinking that goes along with it. If the basis of your objection is the latter ... hmmm, I have no idea what you ought to do, since 'ought' is pretty much meaningless if truth is subjective. I suppose you have two options: 1) bend over and take it, or 2) bend over and say "W'allah, W'allah, bing-bang," or whatever the appropriate phrase is for conversion to Islam -- it's for certain that your governing class' "truth" is that you are way out of line, possibly even a criminal, for even suggesting that there is a problem.

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                        It all depends on how you define truth and reality. It isnt hard to figure out if you debate it through a few times.

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                        I am mystified at your objections

                        Really? You think Sharia law in the UK isnt so obviously a revolting idea that you are mystified?

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                        you are way out of line, possibly even a criminal, for even suggesting that there is a problem.

                        WTF? What are you, in favour of Sharia law in the UK?

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                          "If Nazism hadnt happened, there would be a lot more support today for right wing policies." I don't doubt that this will be quite a shock to you and to most others who frequent this forum: Nazism was not 'of the right;' rather, it was a 'left-wing' phenomenon. I would be surprized if many of you can even process that statement, much less come to see that it is objectively true.

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                          You think you are real clever dont you? And that you are the only one? Well, perhaps we should call you Kyle.

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                            You think you are real clever dont you? And that you are the only one? Well, perhaps we should call you Kyle.

                            Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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                            "You think you are real clever dont you?" It's true that I'm not English, so I may be mising some nuance here, but I think you just accused me of being French.

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                              It all depends on how you define truth and reality. It isnt hard to figure out if you debate it through a few times.

                              Ilíon wrote:

                              I am mystified at your objections

                              Really? You think Sharia law in the UK isnt so obviously a revolting idea that you are mystified?

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                              you are way out of line, possibly even a criminal, for even suggesting that there is a problem.

                              WTF? What are you, in favour of Sharia law in the UK?

                              Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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                              Ah, I get it now: not only can you not reason, you can't read, either.

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