Best OS of all time - well there's a surprise!
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Well =i= thought that VM/CMS was wayyy better than MVS.
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The question should've been "What is the single most bloated OS of all time?" 1st = Vista 2nd runner up = XP right behind it = Mac OS X the last one being other Roswell
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BS! It's CPM and we all know it!! :->
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I'd say this was quite predictable.
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So predictabel that I predicted that shall a poll would be somewhere on the web, and funny enough I predicted the answer too. Move over Nostradamus I'm coming through.
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Clickok wrote:
I would like vote on "Other". This OS is awesome :cool:
As in anything but what's listed...heh heh, you're the ultimate rebel:laugh: Roswell P.S. I'm surprised they didn't include VAX/VMS...
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I'm not really a mac guy, but what do you find bloated about OS X?
My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long
Chris Austin wrote:
I'm not really a mac guy, but what do you find bloated about OS X?
Well, it's not all that bloated when you strip it down to the bare minimum, but it does feel a bit heavy loaded on pre-'99 macs if installed as is. Most people used to XP won't even notice, given the amount of spyware and the overwrought GUI, but those who prefer faster minimalistic o/s's will see the difference. Though it is nice to be able to bring up the unix shell and do some things using scripts. I can't say much good about the Aqua interface. It may be pretty, but why do i need extra garbage when i'm already doing something CPU-intensive? The bright colors of the UI affect your color perception and the buttons themselves feel a bit out of place, having borrowed the same mistake that windows has stuck with since the days of '95. Mac o/s classic got it right, close on the left and collapse and hide on the right...keeps you from accidentally quitting out of something. You may not entirely agree with me, but then again it's only my personal opinion. Try working with only 64MB RAM instead of 1GB and you will see what i mean :) My PowerBook has 256MB and the iMac 128MB, which is still less, but isn't bad having replaced the drives with nice 7000rpm ones, since Photoshop mostly writes to the page file anyway... Roswell :)
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Minix 3! :D
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Same here. VM is simply an engineering marvel. It's the new old thing these days.
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Even better was AOS - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AOS/VS[^] with clean implementations of Multiprocessing - Multithreading, excellent CLI (command lang interpreter), IPC, language independent subroutine calling (aka .Net), excellent text editors, Adventure (when the bosses were not around) and even 2 column forefather of Norton commander! All this in 1979, shortly followed with the 32 bit version. No direct support for graphics, though, as was the norm then. But, the best thing was: the sources were available to the support organisations (on microfiche) : they were very well written, almost each line was commented and very understandable. (Assembly + DG/L [Algol like], as C was just getting in...)
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The first real OS that I ever used...good memories...
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Christian Graus wrote:
The Amiga OS, right ?
RIGHT ON, my bruh THAH !!
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it was sponsored by big green no doubt.
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The best ever OS .... has to be GEORGE3, it was at least 2 generations ahead of its contemporaries. It had Virtual Memory and Virtual Filestore and sophisticated workload scheduling, the OS ran the operators and some very large businesses.... and that was back in the 1960's when things were measured in K's not M's and G's were never even dreamt of and tape was king because no one could afford those new-fangled little disc things (which weighed in at about 32lbs a piece). But it wasn't American and went the way of the British Empire. On Virtual Memory.... when IBM 'invented' it for OS360 they ran an ad .... "Tomorrow came Today to which ICL responded with a similar ad "No, Tomorrow came Yesterday".
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The Amiga OS, right ? What a stupid idea for a poll. Vista is the best, precisely because most people who voted, have not used it, and are still believing the advertisements are true.
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Christian Graus wrote:
The Amiga OS, right ?
Whatever happened ot the supposed rebirth of Amiga with their own OS?
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You're having a laugh the Atari ST's OS was far superior to anything that the Amiga ever had! But the best was clearly the OS on the Acorn RISC OS - beautiful, functional and easy to program!
NRobbins wrote:
But the best was clearly the OS on the Acorn RISC OS - beautiful, functional and easy to program!
Someone is still living in the days of Neanderthal.
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I'm not really a mac guy, but what do you find bloated about OS X?
My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long
Chris Austin wrote:
I'm not really a mac guy, but what do you find bloated about OS X?
My thoughts exactly. I've always been lead to believe that the family of mac OS's have been built around a unix kernel. which is exactly why they are more stable than windows machines, less resource dependant and therefore faster when compared to a windows machine running on an equivelant processor, and a processing powerhouses but useless for non-productivity software. Which is exactly why graphic developers desktop publishing and a large number of other industries rely almost entirely on Apple machines... well they used to.
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I really like one of the comments at the bottom of the page... "there should be a 'don't bother me about petty things like this again' checkbox" I had installed the RC1 (or was it Beta 0.9 B release 2?) whatever it was, i installed it onto my F: drive (with XP on C: ) and had it as my primary OS. What I found was that I couldnt' access C: as much as i could access F: under XP. I remember saying to someone about it, 1 of my 2 complaints: "do I have to be bigger than Jesus to access a damn file!" The other being those damn security alerts - "Would you like to open this?" Well, I went to the hassle of clicking the box, so no I wouldn't like to open it! I think the problem with Vista is that it looks good but the user has become too closed in on (security-wise). I like it better than XP but, if anyone uses it, runs a decent security configuration (ZoneAlarm = good firewall) and is confident enough to live without the security features (which is 80% of people), disable it! You'll save yourself a thousand bucks a year on new monitors.
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I can't believe that nobody said GEOS[^] because it was indeed awesome.
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You're having a laugh the Atari ST's OS was far superior to anything that the Amiga ever had! But the best was clearly the OS on the Acorn RISC OS - beautiful, functional and easy to program!
NRobbins wrote:
the Atari ST's OS was far superior to anything that the Amiga ever had!
Eh? Them's fightin' words :) You can back those up? Did the atari even have a c compiler or were you stuck with asm? Was the gui a set of libraries on top of the core os? Did it have a cool name like "Intuition"? I dunno. Maybe it was better, but i migrated from c64 asm to amiga c. And i spent a looooong time gettin comfy on that os. (till it died.) I still miss that ole amiga. built my first midi sequencer on the thing :) ...Steve
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NRobbins wrote:
the Atari ST's OS was far superior to anything that the Amiga ever had!
Eh? Them's fightin' words :) You can back those up? Did the atari even have a c compiler or were you stuck with asm? Was the gui a set of libraries on top of the core os? Did it have a cool name like "Intuition"? I dunno. Maybe it was better, but i migrated from c64 asm to amiga c. And i spent a looooong time gettin comfy on that os. (till it died.) I still miss that ole amiga. built my first midi sequencer on the thing :) ...Steve
Steve Hazel wrote:
Did the atari even have a c compiler or were you stuck with asm?
Sure, it had Pure C, Lattice C, HiSoft C? and the free Sozobon C compiler, which was pretty good (produced small enough code too!).
Steve Hazel wrote:
Was the gui a set of libraries on top of the core os?
Well, kinda. Wasn't the Amiga OS loaded off disk, rather than ROM like the ST's TOS and GEM gui layer? This means they could keep releasing better versions of Kickstart, whereas TOS updates were much less frequent. I did find the Amiga's GUI and unix-style commandline functionality with pipes etc really impressive, but only after spending my teenage life working in GEM :)