Between Angels and Insects
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What does this mean ? Islam has a proud history of expansionism Statements like that, can only start baseless fear and hatred. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
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I think it's what's called a truism - something that has the ring of truth and therefore excuses a world of error. Especially as the Islamic peope most bent on expansion nowadays are just trying to get their land back..... Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002
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David Wulff wrote: For fÙcks sake man I consider your admirable command of Latin characters to be an arrogant affront to my life, my country, my taste in music, my prefered flavor of icecream, my pet, and all i hold dear. :mad: --------
I am not a connoisseur.
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You forgot your hair style, Bob tattoo and your sister's cousin. :| ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
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David Wulff wrote: (Signature people, signature!) Quotable though it was, I think it doesn't count when you're working for it..... Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002
I'm not entirely sure what you meant by that, but I will take the safe route by saying "Dammit". :~ ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
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You forgot your hair style, Bob tattoo and your sister's cousin. :| ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
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You think i don't hold those things dear? This is just the arrogant attitude i was referring to. :suss: --------
I am not a connoisseur.
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I'm not going to bite, Shog. ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
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I'm not going to bite, Shog. ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
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David Wulff wrote: Racists are the first to cry "racist". Cheats are the first to cry "cheat". Liars are the first to cry "liar". And so, it seems, Americans are the first to cry "David dislikes us". You are making this up only to fuel your anger that I believe originated from many other things way besides the current topic. Your own words are the reasons I believe you hate Americans. Let's see, how did they go? "I hate Americans." That's what you said. How else would one interpret that when it's mixed with so many negative comments towards us? David Wulff wrote: Every time I open my mouth in the Lounge I can see you rolling your eyes and disapproving without bothering to listen. I'm being honest here man. This is your own insecurities talking. Up until now I have always listened to what you had to say, but I tired of your (and many others) insistent bashing of the US. David Wulff wrote: More particular to the States, however, I do dislike the belief that everybody and Joe’s sister “wants in” on the US of A. Nobody said you did want to be here. Everyone has their home. I want to visit the world, but the US is my home. And, I appreciate/respect that you feel the same way about the UK. David Wulff wrote: If you continue to turn every paltry topic into a battle for air I am simply not going to waste any more of my time contributing. This would seem lighthearted to you because something you care for is not being insulted. It's not coincidental that the Americans tend to get upset on CP. How about we rally up everyone and start talking about how Brits do so poorly in this and in that, over and over again you hear this for months on end. Then, after enough time has passed what would you think and do? David Wulff wrote: Change the record people, please, please. I have been asking this for so long now, but it hasn't happened. Jeremy L. Falcon "It's in the mail." Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
Surely some striving souls survive symptomatic stress?Jeremy Falcon wrote: I believe you hate Americans. Let's see, how did they go? "I hate Americans." That's what you said. Where and in what context ? Jeremy Falcon wrote: but I tired of your (and many others) insistent bashing of the US. And we're tired of your assumption that the US can do no wrong, that any comment in any negative light of anything originating from the USA is US bashing. Jeremy Falcon wrote: This would seem lighthearted to you because something you care for is not being insulted. David is right - being an American is a religion and therefore beyond reasonable discussion. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002
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I think it's what's called a truism - something that has the ring of truth and therefore excuses a world of error. Especially as the Islamic peope most bent on expansion nowadays are just trying to get their land back..... Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002
I guess if you repeat something enough it will become true. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
More about me :-)
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I guess if you repeat something enough it will become true. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
More about me :-)
Really ? I rule. I rule. I RULE. :-) Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: I believe you hate Americans. Let's see, how did they go? "I hate Americans." That's what you said. Where and in what context ? Jeremy Falcon wrote: but I tired of your (and many others) insistent bashing of the US. And we're tired of your assumption that the US can do no wrong, that any comment in any negative light of anything originating from the USA is US bashing. Jeremy Falcon wrote: This would seem lighthearted to you because something you care for is not being insulted. David is right - being an American is a religion and therefore beyond reasonable discussion. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002
I'm an American so you can probably just brush this off as being arrogant, but I'm darn proud of my heritage and my way of life and I think its the best there is. However, I have no other context to draw my opinions from. You have to admit, that in the last 100 years or so, the USA has been the most dominant economic, cultural, and political entity in the world. I think we have good reason to be arrogant and the rest of the world jealous. Its probably hard for the French and the Brits to give up superpower status as it would be for Americans. I won't pretend to "know" David by messages posted on a discussion board and I would hope he would give me the same benefit. I know first-hand how a simple, humorous e-mail (or post) can be misconstrued and taken out of context. Just remember, e-mail/posts cannot convey emotion no matter which smiley you choose to append. Don't presume to "know" someone by what they write on this board. Like it or not, I'm right.
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Really ? I rule. I rule. I RULE. :-) Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002
Christian Graus wrote: Really ? I rule. I rule. I RULE. LOL You'll have to do more than that. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
More about me :-)
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I'm an American so you can probably just brush this off as being arrogant, but I'm darn proud of my heritage and my way of life and I think its the best there is. However, I have no other context to draw my opinions from. You have to admit, that in the last 100 years or so, the USA has been the most dominant economic, cultural, and political entity in the world. I think we have good reason to be arrogant and the rest of the world jealous. Its probably hard for the French and the Brits to give up superpower status as it would be for Americans. I won't pretend to "know" David by messages posted on a discussion board and I would hope he would give me the same benefit. I know first-hand how a simple, humorous e-mail (or post) can be misconstrued and taken out of context. Just remember, e-mail/posts cannot convey emotion no matter which smiley you choose to append. Don't presume to "know" someone by what they write on this board. Like it or not, I'm right.
Jason Henderson wrote: You have to admit, that in the last 100 years or so, the USA has been the most dominant economic, cultural, and political entity in the world. Yes, your late entry into WWII meant that you were the main country to leave the war profited by it, and the fact that you killed a few million Japanese women and children to *end* the war meant that everyone was either glad to be your friend, or scared of you. Jason Henderson wrote: I think we have good reason to be arrogant and the rest of the world jealous. What sort of reasons ? Vietnam ? Nagasaki ? Saddam Hussein ? Yes, you've done much good, you've also done much bad. What amazes me more than anything is the zeal with which some Yanks ascribe the good things their country does to themselves personally, while remaining semmingly ignorant of your countries many failures. Jason Henderson wrote: Its probably hard for the French and the Brits to give up superpower status as it would be for Americans. I doubt many Brits or French are raised to regard their country with the religious zeal you guys do. I know as a member of the former Empire, I could care less. Jason Henderson wrote: Like it or not, I'm right. Of course you are - you're American :-) Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002
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Racists are the first to cry "racist". Cheats are the first to cry "cheat". Liars are the first to cry "liar". And so, it seems, Americans are the first to cry "David dislikes us". Change the record people, please. These past few months contributing to the community side of the CodeProject has been a chore, and one I do not enjoy either. Every day it's the same... I wonder what they will pull out of context and use against me now. You people ask for my input and then turn around and have the nerve to talk back at me with me without even taking the time to listen. It just so happens that in the last few cases I do know what I am talking about, but you still consciously choose to ignore me. Every time I open my mouth in the Lounge I can see you rolling your eyes and disapproving without bothering to listen. You may not do it visibly, but it is not difficult to sense it is there; not difficult at all. And do you know what really gets me? No it's not that you may disagree with me - I got over that petty rivalry when I was nine - it's that you are unable to see that you are the racist, that you are the cheat, that you are the liar. There are a few people on here who I hold a high reverence for - you know who they are - these people do listen to what I, and others, have to say, and if they find fault in the reasoning or fact conveyed they will take the time to research and construct a response objecting to it. It is a joy to converse with these people. They are sadly the minority it seems. On more than one occasion now I have had people talk with me privately via e-mail just to avoid the vultures. That, my friends, is a sad state of affairs indeed. Do you think I enjoy being everyone’s punch bag; the communal boot scrape? Change the record people, please. When I enter into a conversation with someone of course I have a predetermined image of them in my head, as does everyone, but the difference with some of you is that I am still able to listen and react to that person regardless of my view of them. Recent events with a certain member are evidence of this. When I became a member of this community a good twenty months back now, I did so because it was one of the few online environments that was not overrun with l33t kiddies and their petty fights. It has been a rare opportunity to find such a diverse mix of views and cultures in which to mix and make new acquaintances. I did not sign up got the “David doesn’t like Pepsi so he must be prejudiced against the Uni
David Wulff wrote: I do not dislike Americans, nevertheless I do dislike arrogance and deliberate ignorance, and these go together to a certain extent - as with all nations. However David if you had started with this line vs having it lost in the middle you would not have come across nearly as much of "hating the USA" as you did. To be truthful (no insult intended here) you come across as very arrogant to me much of the time. I assume this is youthful exuberance or cultural differences and let it pass. Personally I find that most of what I take as a verbal attack on the USA comes from taking things out of context. Be that deliberate or as a result of the news reporting in what ever country. Yes the USA has done some bad things. But most of the time it was not their intent to do evil. The few times I know it was an intent to do evil the country did not stand for it. Why can this understanding never get across? There is not a nation that has not done some bad things. So lets try to stop just saying how many evil actions one nation has done and start explaining "Hey friend, this hurt, this is how my people are taking your actions, can we work this out?" To be conscious that you are ignorant of the facts is a great step towards Knowledge. Benjamin Disraeli
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Jason Henderson wrote: You have to admit, that in the last 100 years or so, the USA has been the most dominant economic, cultural, and political entity in the world. Yes, your late entry into WWII meant that you were the main country to leave the war profited by it, and the fact that you killed a few million Japanese women and children to *end* the war meant that everyone was either glad to be your friend, or scared of you. Jason Henderson wrote: I think we have good reason to be arrogant and the rest of the world jealous. What sort of reasons ? Vietnam ? Nagasaki ? Saddam Hussein ? Yes, you've done much good, you've also done much bad. What amazes me more than anything is the zeal with which some Yanks ascribe the good things their country does to themselves personally, while remaining semmingly ignorant of your countries many failures. Jason Henderson wrote: Its probably hard for the French and the Brits to give up superpower status as it would be for Americans. I doubt many Brits or French are raised to regard their country with the religious zeal you guys do. I know as a member of the former Empire, I could care less. Jason Henderson wrote: Like it or not, I'm right. Of course you are - you're American :-) Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002
Christian Graus wrote: Yes, your late entry into WWII meant that you were the main country to leave the war profited by it, and the fact that you killed a few million Japanese women and children to *end* the war meant that everyone was either glad to be your friend, or scared of you. I would submit that we became the dominant world player after WWI and maybe even after the Spanish-American War. Which is worse, millions of the bad guys dead or millions of the good guys? And don't tell me the Japanese military was anything but bad. Just ask the millions of raped, pillaged and dead in their wake across the entire pacific rim. I don't believe in moral relativism. There is good and there is evil. For the most part, the USA has been on the side of good. Christian Graus wrote: while remaining semmingly ignorant of your countries many failures. I understand your apprehension and contempt for the power we wield. Unfortunately, when you're a Gulliver among Lilliputians you're bound to step on a few of the little people. One day, probably sooner rather than later, the USA will lose some of its power and another country will have to step up to the plate and take a swing at it. Hopefully, it won't be a nation like communist China. Christian Graus wrote: Like it or not, I'm right. Of course you are - you're American Good one. :-O Like it or not, I'm right.
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Racists are the first to cry "racist". Cheats are the first to cry "cheat". Liars are the first to cry "liar". And so, it seems, Americans are the first to cry "David dislikes us". Change the record people, please. These past few months contributing to the community side of the CodeProject has been a chore, and one I do not enjoy either. Every day it's the same... I wonder what they will pull out of context and use against me now. You people ask for my input and then turn around and have the nerve to talk back at me with me without even taking the time to listen. It just so happens that in the last few cases I do know what I am talking about, but you still consciously choose to ignore me. Every time I open my mouth in the Lounge I can see you rolling your eyes and disapproving without bothering to listen. You may not do it visibly, but it is not difficult to sense it is there; not difficult at all. And do you know what really gets me? No it's not that you may disagree with me - I got over that petty rivalry when I was nine - it's that you are unable to see that you are the racist, that you are the cheat, that you are the liar. There are a few people on here who I hold a high reverence for - you know who they are - these people do listen to what I, and others, have to say, and if they find fault in the reasoning or fact conveyed they will take the time to research and construct a response objecting to it. It is a joy to converse with these people. They are sadly the minority it seems. On more than one occasion now I have had people talk with me privately via e-mail just to avoid the vultures. That, my friends, is a sad state of affairs indeed. Do you think I enjoy being everyone’s punch bag; the communal boot scrape? Change the record people, please. When I enter into a conversation with someone of course I have a predetermined image of them in my head, as does everyone, but the difference with some of you is that I am still able to listen and react to that person regardless of my view of them. Recent events with a certain member are evidence of this. When I became a member of this community a good twenty months back now, I did so because it was one of the few online environments that was not overrun with l33t kiddies and their petty fights. It has been a rare opportunity to find such a diverse mix of views and cultures in which to mix and make new acquaintances. I did not sign up got the “David doesn’t like Pepsi so he must be prejudiced against the Uni
Wow, I quit posting in the lounge because the general content of the messages had severly degraded into discussions that were obviously started to bolster message counts, but my message announcing that fact was only a couple of lines long, and I doubt if anyone has even missed me. Dave, you gotta lighten up. If you provide anti-American opinions in a forum dominated (in large numbers) by Americans, you can expect a certain amount of backlash. Some of the people that post don't recognize humor in any form, or just plain don't know when to keep their traps shut. So what do you *like* about Americans, anyway? Since you had never mentioned anything specific, I assume the list must be quite large and you're simply having trouble selecting just one positive thing to say about Americans. What's truly funny is the Americans (as a rule) don't find nearly so much to dislike about the British. From our side of the pond, the brits appear just as patronizing and arrogant as we do to you. False impressions is a two-edged sword polished and sharpend by ignorance. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
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Wow, I quit posting in the lounge because the general content of the messages had severly degraded into discussions that were obviously started to bolster message counts, but my message announcing that fact was only a couple of lines long, and I doubt if anyone has even missed me. Dave, you gotta lighten up. If you provide anti-American opinions in a forum dominated (in large numbers) by Americans, you can expect a certain amount of backlash. Some of the people that post don't recognize humor in any form, or just plain don't know when to keep their traps shut. So what do you *like* about Americans, anyway? Since you had never mentioned anything specific, I assume the list must be quite large and you're simply having trouble selecting just one positive thing to say about Americans. What's truly funny is the Americans (as a rule) don't find nearly so much to dislike about the British. From our side of the pond, the brits appear just as patronizing and arrogant as we do to you. False impressions is a two-edged sword polished and sharpend by ignorance. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: False impressions is a two-edged sword polished and sharpend by ignorance. Excellent wording! It goes for us all. Jeremy L. Falcon "It's in the mail." Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
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Wow, I quit posting in the lounge because the general content of the messages had severly degraded into discussions that were obviously started to bolster message counts, but my message announcing that fact was only a couple of lines long, and I doubt if anyone has even missed me. Dave, you gotta lighten up. If you provide anti-American opinions in a forum dominated (in large numbers) by Americans, you can expect a certain amount of backlash. Some of the people that post don't recognize humor in any form, or just plain don't know when to keep their traps shut. So what do you *like* about Americans, anyway? Since you had never mentioned anything specific, I assume the list must be quite large and you're simply having trouble selecting just one positive thing to say about Americans. What's truly funny is the Americans (as a rule) don't find nearly so much to dislike about the British. From our side of the pond, the brits appear just as patronizing and arrogant as we do to you. False impressions is a two-edged sword polished and sharpend by ignorance. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
I noticed you were missing, but I was keeping my head down in case you bit it off! :-D ;P Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016 If I had a quote, it would be a very good one.
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Before I start by repeating my text of the past few days a further time, take note of what I have just said. You have just typed an elaborate reply at me, not to me. Additionaly, also take note that I am not alone in what I say here. I may be the one to stand up and poke my head through the crowd, but that does not make me a single voice. As I have said I have had e-mails from several different members of this community who wish to remain anonymous to avoid the heat, and often find responses coming in to posts made over a week ago just to keep them out of the spotlight. Whilst I respect a person's right to do this, it is obviously a little anoying, though the evidence is there if you care to research it. Anyway... Jeremy Falcon wrote: You are making this up It is a well known and conclusivly proven fact, actually, in the three cases I have used. The latter is based on observation. Jeremy Falcon wrote: Your own words are the reasons I believe you hate Americans. I have stated in as many words that I hate one thing and one thing only, and whilst I hold that thought close to my heart it has nothing to do with nationality or petty arguments based on such. Jeremy Falcon wrote: "I hate Americans." That's what you said. Was that in the same sentance that I said "I hate my mother and wish death to all Jews"? No come on, enlighten me, 'cause I can't see the difference. Jeremy Falcon wrote: How else would one interpret that when it's mixed with so many negative comments towards us? I want to remain civil so I can keep this constructive, so read this in a lowered tone. For fÙcks sake man, can you read? I challenge you to build some "negative scales" and place any negative Americanesq comments made by myself on one side and those regarding other nations on the other. I would bet money the scales would fall quickly to the right. This is what I was talking about when I say you (and in this case I am referring directly to you, Jeremy) do not listen to what I say - only to what you want me to say. Again, I can only repeat "David doesn't like Pepsi - he is anti-American". Jeremy Falcon wrote: I'm being honest here man. This is your own insecurities talking Oh of course, why didn't I think of that! No it's not, and you know it's not. I have had people say to me what prompted you to write that response, it is not just my ow
David Wulff wrote: Oh of course, why didn't I think of that! No it's not, and you know it's not. I have had people say to me what prompted you to write that response, it is not just my own observation - though responses like this do not help your cause. I really don't wish to continue an argument. But, I ask that you at least take heed on some of my word. If not, so be it. Everyone has insecurities; therefore, I have them as well. I freely admit this. I talk about myself, what's going on my life, etc. on CP because this is where I come to unload. Let me explain my world to you David. I live in a world where the only thing "cool" about being a computer nerd is the money you get from it. The reasons why I'll keep concealed so it is not mistaken for ego. I never really get to be myself until I come to places like this. And, I like being sociable because I used to not be. So, I talk a lot. Also, I'll never back down from confrontation. You have strong people and weak people. I am not weak. If this makes me a bad person, then I'm sorry. However, I will not change. If people think me horrible, it's not my fault because I have never directly been mean to anyone here except for two people that I can think of - one of which is Bill SerGio. I just speak my mind and never quite know when to shut up. I say what people think; that's the difference. And, "these people" you refer to are a bit judgmental don't you think? I try my best not to judge anyone because I have seen enough in my life to know that people usually turn out to be something you didn't expect. FWIW David, I think you're a cool guy, but your tones all too often reflect anger. Jeremy L. Falcon "It's in the mail." Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: I believe you hate Americans. Let's see, how did they go? "I hate Americans." That's what you said. Where and in what context ? Jeremy Falcon wrote: but I tired of your (and many others) insistent bashing of the US. And we're tired of your assumption that the US can do no wrong, that any comment in any negative light of anything originating from the USA is US bashing. Jeremy Falcon wrote: This would seem lighthearted to you because something you care for is not being insulted. David is right - being an American is a religion and therefore beyond reasonable discussion. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002
Christian Graus wrote: David is right - being an American is a religion and therefore beyond reasonable discussion. All I'll say is that I wished for more from you. :( Jeremy L. Falcon "It's in the mail." Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
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Wow, I quit posting in the lounge because the general content of the messages had severly degraded into discussions that were obviously started to bolster message counts, but my message announcing that fact was only a couple of lines long, and I doubt if anyone has even missed me. Dave, you gotta lighten up. If you provide anti-American opinions in a forum dominated (in large numbers) by Americans, you can expect a certain amount of backlash. Some of the people that post don't recognize humor in any form, or just plain don't know when to keep their traps shut. So what do you *like* about Americans, anyway? Since you had never mentioned anything specific, I assume the list must be quite large and you're simply having trouble selecting just one positive thing to say about Americans. What's truly funny is the Americans (as a rule) don't find nearly so much to dislike about the British. From our side of the pond, the brits appear just as patronizing and arrogant as we do to you. False impressions is a two-edged sword polished and sharpend by ignorance. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.
