Another what if thread...
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Over the last 18 months I've seen various stories on how researchers and doctors are experimenting with brain implants to acheive various goals. About a year ago I read of a case where doctors had given a blind man back his sight using a brain implant. The most recent case I saw, was where researchers had implanted a monkey, that could then control a computer mouse cursor just by using thought. This seems to be one of the areas where reality is rapidly catching up with science fiction. Every time I read something on a tech news site, I see something else. Just yesterday, I saw a article about anti-gravity (Unverified, and not yet submitted for verification, but nonetheless interesting). I wonder how long it will be before works of science fiction are no longer classified as sci-fi, but contemporary drama. Anyway, my question to the lounge. Given that a future advance in implant technology is made that allows you to connect with a computer system, or other individuals, and is: a) Safe and painless, b) Discreet (no giant sockets in the back of the head), c) Unhackable (no ability to crack into your head and read or control your thoughts), d) Inexpensive. Would you take the plunge and get an implant? If not, why not?
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Over the last 18 months I've seen various stories on how researchers and doctors are experimenting with brain implants to acheive various goals. About a year ago I read of a case where doctors had given a blind man back his sight using a brain implant. The most recent case I saw, was where researchers had implanted a monkey, that could then control a computer mouse cursor just by using thought. This seems to be one of the areas where reality is rapidly catching up with science fiction. Every time I read something on a tech news site, I see something else. Just yesterday, I saw a article about anti-gravity (Unverified, and not yet submitted for verification, but nonetheless interesting). I wonder how long it will be before works of science fiction are no longer classified as sci-fi, but contemporary drama. Anyway, my question to the lounge. Given that a future advance in implant technology is made that allows you to connect with a computer system, or other individuals, and is: a) Safe and painless, b) Discreet (no giant sockets in the back of the head), c) Unhackable (no ability to crack into your head and read or control your thoughts), d) Inexpensive. Would you take the plunge and get an implant? If not, why not?
John Judd wrote: Would you take the plunge and get an implant? If not, why not? No, for starters that is a little wierd. My real reason is I can just see myself standing in a fastfood restuarant in being asked for my order and all I can see is system error, please reboot ;P -:suss:Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179
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Over the last 18 months I've seen various stories on how researchers and doctors are experimenting with brain implants to acheive various goals. About a year ago I read of a case where doctors had given a blind man back his sight using a brain implant. The most recent case I saw, was where researchers had implanted a monkey, that could then control a computer mouse cursor just by using thought. This seems to be one of the areas where reality is rapidly catching up with science fiction. Every time I read something on a tech news site, I see something else. Just yesterday, I saw a article about anti-gravity (Unverified, and not yet submitted for verification, but nonetheless interesting). I wonder how long it will be before works of science fiction are no longer classified as sci-fi, but contemporary drama. Anyway, my question to the lounge. Given that a future advance in implant technology is made that allows you to connect with a computer system, or other individuals, and is: a) Safe and painless, b) Discreet (no giant sockets in the back of the head), c) Unhackable (no ability to crack into your head and read or control your thoughts), d) Inexpensive. Would you take the plunge and get an implant? If not, why not?
Not unless i lost the use of my hands or eyes. I already type faster than i can form coherant sentences, and something tells me that 50" flat-screen monitors will be inexpensive long before such surgery would be. --------
I am not a connoisseur.
--Shog9 --
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Over the last 18 months I've seen various stories on how researchers and doctors are experimenting with brain implants to acheive various goals. About a year ago I read of a case where doctors had given a blind man back his sight using a brain implant. The most recent case I saw, was where researchers had implanted a monkey, that could then control a computer mouse cursor just by using thought. This seems to be one of the areas where reality is rapidly catching up with science fiction. Every time I read something on a tech news site, I see something else. Just yesterday, I saw a article about anti-gravity (Unverified, and not yet submitted for verification, but nonetheless interesting). I wonder how long it will be before works of science fiction are no longer classified as sci-fi, but contemporary drama. Anyway, my question to the lounge. Given that a future advance in implant technology is made that allows you to connect with a computer system, or other individuals, and is: a) Safe and painless, b) Discreet (no giant sockets in the back of the head), c) Unhackable (no ability to crack into your head and read or control your thoughts), d) Inexpensive. Would you take the plunge and get an implant? If not, why not?
You try it first John, then I'll consider it. :-) I think a cerebal I/O bus will become standard place in the future, and you'll need one to get most jobs etc. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
More about me :-)
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John Judd wrote: Would you take the plunge and get an implant? If not, why not? No, for starters that is a little wierd. My real reason is I can just see myself standing in a fastfood restuarant in being asked for my order and all I can see is system error, please reboot ;P -:suss:Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179
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Over the last 18 months I've seen various stories on how researchers and doctors are experimenting with brain implants to acheive various goals. About a year ago I read of a case where doctors had given a blind man back his sight using a brain implant. The most recent case I saw, was where researchers had implanted a monkey, that could then control a computer mouse cursor just by using thought. This seems to be one of the areas where reality is rapidly catching up with science fiction. Every time I read something on a tech news site, I see something else. Just yesterday, I saw a article about anti-gravity (Unverified, and not yet submitted for verification, but nonetheless interesting). I wonder how long it will be before works of science fiction are no longer classified as sci-fi, but contemporary drama. Anyway, my question to the lounge. Given that a future advance in implant technology is made that allows you to connect with a computer system, or other individuals, and is: a) Safe and painless, b) Discreet (no giant sockets in the back of the head), c) Unhackable (no ability to crack into your head and read or control your thoughts), d) Inexpensive. Would you take the plunge and get an implant? If not, why not?
Hell, yes. In a second. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002
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Not unless i lost the use of my hands or eyes. I already type faster than i can form coherant sentences, and something tells me that 50" flat-screen monitors will be inexpensive long before such surgery would be. --------
I am not a connoisseur.
--Shog9 --
Shog9 wrote: . I already type faster than i can form coherant sentences Yes, but you can think much faster than you can form words, or type. I recall many years ago being told that the human brain thinks at about a rate of 10000 words per minute if you dont subvocalise. Shog9 wrote: ...will be inexpensive long before such surgery would be. But one of the criteria was that the implants would be inexpensive. Lets say they were cheaper than a monitor. Or that you could learn things Matrix style, by simply downloading the information.
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Gives a whole new meaning to the Blue Screen Of Death doesnt it? You are moving toward a bright blue light... ;P
LOL -:suss:Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179
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You try it first John, then I'll consider it. :-) I think a cerebal I/O bus will become standard place in the future, and you'll need one to get most jobs etc. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
More about me :-)
****Colin Davies wrote: You try it first John, then I'll consider it. I really think that if it met all the criteria that I specified I would get one. ****Colin Davies wrote: I think a cerebal I/O bus will become standard place in the future, and you'll need one to get most jobs etc. That brings up another interesting point. What will the social ramifications of such a device be? What about people who, for one reason or another, dont want to get an implant. Will they be disadvantaged?
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Shog9 wrote: . I already type faster than i can form coherant sentences Yes, but you can think much faster than you can form words, or type. I recall many years ago being told that the human brain thinks at about a rate of 10000 words per minute if you dont subvocalise. Shog9 wrote: ...will be inexpensive long before such surgery would be. But one of the criteria was that the implants would be inexpensive. Lets say they were cheaper than a monitor. Or that you could learn things Matrix style, by simply downloading the information.
John Judd wrote: Yes, but you can think much faster than you can form words, or type. True, but the amount of stuff i think that i'd actually want to act upon (or record, etc.) is fairly small. The time it takes me to move my fingers or lips allows me to self-edit. Unfortuately, often not enough time. :-O John Judd wrote: But one of the criteria was that the implants would be inexpensive. Oh, yeah. Well, that would be kinda nice, immersive movies, video games, etc. Honestly, i think it is probable the most popular use for such technology (and the use that would convince me to adopt it) has not even been considered yet. Think about computers; very few people thought seriously they would become small and cheap and used in common appliances, until the IC was developed and suddenly talking toys were possible (yeah, so were pocket calculators, but everyone expected that). John Judd wrote: Or that you could learn things Matrix style, by simply downloading the information. That would truely scare me. It's hard enough to know what is true and why now; think "Total Recall"... --------
I am not a connoisseur.
--Shog9 --
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****Colin Davies wrote: You try it first John, then I'll consider it. I really think that if it met all the criteria that I specified I would get one. ****Colin Davies wrote: I think a cerebal I/O bus will become standard place in the future, and you'll need one to get most jobs etc. That brings up another interesting point. What will the social ramifications of such a device be? What about people who, for one reason or another, dont want to get an implant. Will they be disadvantaged?
John Judd wrote: What about people who, for one reason or another, dont want to get an implant. Will they be disadvantaged? Yes, we would probably call the UH's unimplanted handicapped, etc. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
More about me :-)
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Over the last 18 months I've seen various stories on how researchers and doctors are experimenting with brain implants to acheive various goals. About a year ago I read of a case where doctors had given a blind man back his sight using a brain implant. The most recent case I saw, was where researchers had implanted a monkey, that could then control a computer mouse cursor just by using thought. This seems to be one of the areas where reality is rapidly catching up with science fiction. Every time I read something on a tech news site, I see something else. Just yesterday, I saw a article about anti-gravity (Unverified, and not yet submitted for verification, but nonetheless interesting). I wonder how long it will be before works of science fiction are no longer classified as sci-fi, but contemporary drama. Anyway, my question to the lounge. Given that a future advance in implant technology is made that allows you to connect with a computer system, or other individuals, and is: a) Safe and painless, b) Discreet (no giant sockets in the back of the head), c) Unhackable (no ability to crack into your head and read or control your thoughts), d) Inexpensive. Would you take the plunge and get an implant? If not, why not?
Slightly off topic - imagine if they could make plug-in memory modules, so for example you could wake up in the morning and insert "Spanish" and "Food and Drink" modules if you were going to cook a meal. That would be cool! John Judd wrote: Would you take the plunge and get an implant? If not, why not? In the case of my example above, yes, though I would need to be sure that the chance of any problems was reasonably slim. ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
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Hell, yes. In a second. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002
Same here, of course assuming that it really was uncrackable, and safe, etc. Which would not be an easy task... I wouldn't mind it crashing once and a while and losing my super enhanced capabilities (although the deprivation would probably wound me forever pschychologically...), as long as I don't get taken down with it :~
-Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337] MadHamster Creations "I was born human. But this was an accident of fate - a condition merely of time and place. I believe it's something we have the power to change..."
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Over the last 18 months I've seen various stories on how researchers and doctors are experimenting with brain implants to acheive various goals. About a year ago I read of a case where doctors had given a blind man back his sight using a brain implant. The most recent case I saw, was where researchers had implanted a monkey, that could then control a computer mouse cursor just by using thought. This seems to be one of the areas where reality is rapidly catching up with science fiction. Every time I read something on a tech news site, I see something else. Just yesterday, I saw a article about anti-gravity (Unverified, and not yet submitted for verification, but nonetheless interesting). I wonder how long it will be before works of science fiction are no longer classified as sci-fi, but contemporary drama. Anyway, my question to the lounge. Given that a future advance in implant technology is made that allows you to connect with a computer system, or other individuals, and is: a) Safe and painless, b) Discreet (no giant sockets in the back of the head), c) Unhackable (no ability to crack into your head and read or control your thoughts), d) Inexpensive. Would you take the plunge and get an implant? If not, why not?
There is no such thing as 'unhackable' =( If there were I would still have to give it alot of consideration. -Jack To an optimist the glass is half full. To a pessimist the glass is half empty. To a programmer the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
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Over the last 18 months I've seen various stories on how researchers and doctors are experimenting with brain implants to acheive various goals. About a year ago I read of a case where doctors had given a blind man back his sight using a brain implant. The most recent case I saw, was where researchers had implanted a monkey, that could then control a computer mouse cursor just by using thought. This seems to be one of the areas where reality is rapidly catching up with science fiction. Every time I read something on a tech news site, I see something else. Just yesterday, I saw a article about anti-gravity (Unverified, and not yet submitted for verification, but nonetheless interesting). I wonder how long it will be before works of science fiction are no longer classified as sci-fi, but contemporary drama. Anyway, my question to the lounge. Given that a future advance in implant technology is made that allows you to connect with a computer system, or other individuals, and is: a) Safe and painless, b) Discreet (no giant sockets in the back of the head), c) Unhackable (no ability to crack into your head and read or control your thoughts), d) Inexpensive. Would you take the plunge and get an implant? If not, why not?
This would be like taking drugs before the olympics. It wouldn't be fair to us po' folk who can't afford the implants. Can you say "technology gap"? I'd say as long as my cognitive code inherits from CEinstein, I'll do it. Like it or not, I'm right.
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Over the last 18 months I've seen various stories on how researchers and doctors are experimenting with brain implants to acheive various goals. About a year ago I read of a case where doctors had given a blind man back his sight using a brain implant. The most recent case I saw, was where researchers had implanted a monkey, that could then control a computer mouse cursor just by using thought. This seems to be one of the areas where reality is rapidly catching up with science fiction. Every time I read something on a tech news site, I see something else. Just yesterday, I saw a article about anti-gravity (Unverified, and not yet submitted for verification, but nonetheless interesting). I wonder how long it will be before works of science fiction are no longer classified as sci-fi, but contemporary drama. Anyway, my question to the lounge. Given that a future advance in implant technology is made that allows you to connect with a computer system, or other individuals, and is: a) Safe and painless, b) Discreet (no giant sockets in the back of the head), c) Unhackable (no ability to crack into your head and read or control your thoughts), d) Inexpensive. Would you take the plunge and get an implant? If not, why not?
Oh yes!! Most defintely..i think the future will belong to the genetically modified and bionically implanted. I wouldn't want to be lesser than anyone around :D :D And anyways i think it will be more of a necessity rather than an option since everything is going to be wired and online anyway..so why waste time with a keyboard or any other peripheral device when you can control it using ur thoughts.. But i must admit the dangers involved are considerably higher but that's the price you have to pay..for example we could do away with automobiles and do away with auto accidents altogether..right?.. if u cn rd ths u cn bcm a c prgmr! Sonork ID 100.9997 sijinjoseph
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Over the last 18 months I've seen various stories on how researchers and doctors are experimenting with brain implants to acheive various goals. About a year ago I read of a case where doctors had given a blind man back his sight using a brain implant. The most recent case I saw, was where researchers had implanted a monkey, that could then control a computer mouse cursor just by using thought. This seems to be one of the areas where reality is rapidly catching up with science fiction. Every time I read something on a tech news site, I see something else. Just yesterday, I saw a article about anti-gravity (Unverified, and not yet submitted for verification, but nonetheless interesting). I wonder how long it will be before works of science fiction are no longer classified as sci-fi, but contemporary drama. Anyway, my question to the lounge. Given that a future advance in implant technology is made that allows you to connect with a computer system, or other individuals, and is: a) Safe and painless, b) Discreet (no giant sockets in the back of the head), c) Unhackable (no ability to crack into your head and read or control your thoughts), d) Inexpensive. Would you take the plunge and get an implant? If not, why not?
John Judd wrote: Would you take the plunge and get an implant? I would. It'd be fun I bet. My typing is not as fast as I think, this way I can program that much more faster, as my thoughts themselves would probably be in C++ Real cool idea too, thanks for making me happy by giving me something to fantasise about. Nish
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
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Hell, yes. In a second. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002
Christian Graus wrote: Hell, yes. In a second. Might be cheaper than that life you have been searching for, for so long. :laugh: Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "He orginally got the Tweezers of Destruction through the scanners but then popped back outside for a smoke." - Chris Maunder 26/03/2002
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Christian Graus wrote: Hell, yes. In a second. Might be cheaper than that life you have been searching for, for so long. :laugh: Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "He orginally got the Tweezers of Destruction through the scanners but then popped back outside for a smoke." - Chris Maunder 26/03/2002
Michael Martin wrote: Might be cheaper than that life you have been searching for, for so long I'm not searching at all, you keep flogging this life thing to me for some reason. I'd rather work on the CP screensaver any time.... Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002
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Michael Martin wrote: Might be cheaper than that life you have been searching for, for so long I'm not searching at all, you keep flogging this life thing to me for some reason. I'd rather work on the CP screensaver any time.... Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002
Christian Graus wrote: I'm not searching at all, you keep flogging this life thing to me for some reason. I'd rather work on the CP screensaver any time.... Fair enough. With the kids screaming in the background I couldn't come up with anything better. Usually I throw in something about Tasmania allowing you another shot at an original Mainland putdown you do so well. Anyway why would you allow for stuff to be implanted in your head when there are bound to be major problems with it? Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "He orginally got the Tweezers of Destruction through the scanners but then popped back outside for a smoke." - Chris Maunder 26/03/2002