Firefox's Slickest Features
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
It's a Microsoft developer technologies centric site (in my opinion)... For non-dev stuff the regulars here use all kinds of software - Oracle, Firefox, Photoshop etc.
I'm not clear on the distinction between "dev" and "non-dev". When someone writes an application using Oracle's tools, isn't that development? When someone writes a script for Firefox, isn't that development? When someone manipulates a picture in Photoshop for inclusion on a website, isn't that development? And if this[^]isn't an article about development, then what is it?
"centric" does not mean "with absolute exclusion to all other ideas or technologies" imho
Todd Smith
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The Grand Negus wrote:
Shouldn't we all be using Internet Explorer?
We may be a bit stuck in our ways, but we're not stupid... :rolleyes:
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Shog9 wrote:
We may be a bit stuck in our ways, but we're not stupid...
It seems to me that there are some places where monopolies and rigid standards - even if flawed - are more beneficial than not; and vice-versa. You and I are able to communicate, right here and now, because we've both agreed to accept a seriously flawed but useful mechanism - English (you probably thought I was going to say "hierarchical forums"!). But it appears from observation that we, as a species, often accept uniformity when we should reject it, and reject it when it would help. So perhaps we're not as bright, as a species, as we think...
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Shog9 wrote:
We may be a bit stuck in our ways, but we're not stupid...
It seems to me that there are some places where monopolies and rigid standards - even if flawed - are more beneficial than not; and vice-versa. You and I are able to communicate, right here and now, because we've both agreed to accept a seriously flawed but useful mechanism - English (you probably thought I was going to say "hierarchical forums"!). But it appears from observation that we, as a species, often accept uniformity when we should reject it, and reject it when it would help. So perhaps we're not as bright, as a species, as we think...
The Grand Negus wrote:
But it appears from observation that we, as a species, often accept uniformity when we should reject it, and reject it when it would help. So perhaps we're not as bright, as a species, as we think...
Maybe we all have our individual preferences and prefer using a superior product such as Firefox.
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The Grand Negus wrote:
Shouldn't we all be using Internet Explorer?
We may be a bit stuck in our ways, but we're not stupid... :rolleyes:
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...Stupid or not I like IE7 :)
Ant. I'm hard, yet soft.
I'm coloured, yet clear.
I'm fruity and sweet.
I'm jelly, what am I? Muse on it further, I shall return! - David Walliams (Little Britain) -
...Stupid or not I like IE7 :)
Ant. I'm hard, yet soft.
I'm coloured, yet clear.
I'm fruity and sweet.
I'm jelly, what am I? Muse on it further, I shall return! - David Walliams (Little Britain)Then in your case, stupid would be using something else simply because it was made by a company that makes other things you need... ;)
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Shog9 wrote:
We may be a bit stuck in our ways, but we're not stupid...
It seems to me that there are some places where monopolies and rigid standards - even if flawed - are more beneficial than not; and vice-versa. You and I are able to communicate, right here and now, because we've both agreed to accept a seriously flawed but useful mechanism - English (you probably thought I was going to say "hierarchical forums"!). But it appears from observation that we, as a species, often accept uniformity when we should reject it, and reject it when it would help. So perhaps we're not as bright, as a species, as we think...
The Grand Negus wrote:
But it appears from observation that we, as a species, often accept uniformity when we should reject it, and reject it when it would help.
Inertia... Ah, how many times i've missed a turn while driving, because i didn't see it in time to slow down for it. :)
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Greasemonkey (or whatever in FF makes GM possible)
image processing toolkits | batch image processing | blogging
I was thinking more of FF's features themselves rather than specific extensions.
Kevin
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Shog9 wrote:
We may be a bit stuck in our ways, but we're not stupid...
It seems to me that there are some places where monopolies and rigid standards - even if flawed - are more beneficial than not; and vice-versa. You and I are able to communicate, right here and now, because we've both agreed to accept a seriously flawed but useful mechanism - English (you probably thought I was going to say "hierarchical forums"!). But it appears from observation that we, as a species, often accept uniformity when we should reject it, and reject it when it would help. So perhaps we're not as bright, as a species, as we think...
The Grand Negus wrote:
a seriously flawed but useful mechanism - English
And you wrote a compiler that uses this?? :wtf: Hmmm...
Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic
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Apart from the extension model as such... The Downloads and Add-ons Managers Automatic Updates implementation The Find window Display of page title (if present) in the address bar Anything else?
Kevin
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The Grand Negus wrote:
But it appears from observation that we, as a species, often accept uniformity when we should reject it, and reject it when it would help.
Inertia... Ah, how many times i've missed a turn while driving, because i didn't see it in time to slow down for it. :)
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The Grand Negus wrote:
a seriously flawed but useful mechanism - English
And you wrote a compiler that uses this?? :wtf: Hmmm...
Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic
Dave Kreskowiak wrote:
And you wrote a compiler that uses this??
Yep. And we wrote it for Intel processors and Microsoft operating systems for the very same reason: ubiquitousness. None of these three would not be our first choice in an ideal world. But we do have plans to make the latter two go away (at least for us); I think we're stuck, however, with English for some time yet...
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Shog9 wrote:
Ah, how many times i've missed a turn while driving, because i didn't see it in time to slow down for it.
I tend to sit at stop signs waiting for them to turn green.
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Dave Kreskowiak wrote:
And you wrote a compiler that uses this??
Yep. And we wrote it for Intel processors and Microsoft operating systems for the very same reason: ubiquitousness. None of these three would not be our first choice in an ideal world. But we do have plans to make the latter two go away (at least for us); I think we're stuck, however, with English for some time yet...
Sir, what are you smoking? Roswell:wtf: P.S. Well, maybe you do have a point there...perhaps a fragmented german compiler will be a bit more popular than plain english;P
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
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Apart from the extension model as such... The Downloads and Add-ons Managers Automatic Updates implementation The Find window Display of page title (if present) in the address bar Anything else?
Kevin
A lot of the stuff I'm finding in FF is under the hood and more for app developers. Let's see... * E4X (ECMA-357) * Native HTML Canvas support * Native SVG * Native XML DOM processing (not some multi-version ActiveX joke). Look at Mozilla Developer Central for more. Not to mention it's a better laid-out general reference area than what Microsoft provides for IE in MSDN. Then there's IE's (in)ability to pinpoint script errors when you have linked script files. It finds the proper line number, but thinks all code is in the main file, so you can't debug it. * Ability to print things that are legible more than 50% of the time... Oh, and type about:config in the address bar of FF for some other neat stuff. The only way I find to make a (reasonably) cross-browser app is to code in FF, then go back into IE and see what they implemented differently and fix it. If you go the other way you'll become trapping in IE's one-off "features".
---------------------- Chris Cole
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RoswellNX wrote:
Aren't these[^] things actually static by nature?
Of course they are. I'm an absent-minded driver, often thinking of something else. Over the years I've acquired the "safe" habits of say, driving off the road onto the shoulder (rather than across the center line), and stopping at almost anything that's red. So I stop at a stop sign and go on thinking, while my subconscious driver waits for something green to appear in my peripheral vision. Of course, nothing does. But the subconscious also responds to honking horns and to the urgings of my loving and attentive wife, so it all works out. Especially when I simply let my loving and attentive wife drive.
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Sir, what are you smoking? Roswell:wtf: P.S. Well, maybe you do have a point there...perhaps a fragmented german compiler will be a bit more popular than plain english;P
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA -
A lot of the stuff I'm finding in FF is under the hood and more for app developers. Let's see... * E4X (ECMA-357) * Native HTML Canvas support * Native SVG * Native XML DOM processing (not some multi-version ActiveX joke). Look at Mozilla Developer Central for more. Not to mention it's a better laid-out general reference area than what Microsoft provides for IE in MSDN. Then there's IE's (in)ability to pinpoint script errors when you have linked script files. It finds the proper line number, but thinks all code is in the main file, so you can't debug it. * Ability to print things that are legible more than 50% of the time... Oh, and type about:config in the address bar of FF for some other neat stuff. The only way I find to make a (reasonably) cross-browser app is to code in FF, then go back into IE and see what they implemented differently and fix it. If you go the other way you'll become trapping in IE's one-off "features".
---------------------- Chris Cole
Chris Cole wrote:
The only way I find to make a (reasonably) cross-browser app is to code in FF, then go back into IE and see what they implemented differently and fix it. If you go the other way you'll become trapping in IE's one-off "features".
Not just web apps. Even the general stuff like CSS. I test everything in FF and once in a while peek at how IE renders it to know if i'll need to use a workaround for this or that, depending on what "feature" comes up. Roswell
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA -
RoswellNX wrote:
Sir, what are you smoking?
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. If you'd like a response, please clarify. Thanks.
The Grand Negus wrote:
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. If you'd like a response, please clarify. Thanks.
Doesn't compile?;P I'm simply saying that you appear to live in a somewhat surreal universe, presumably caused by drugs/medications, since nothing else can produce quite the same effect on your conscious mind. Perhaps i should ask "what are you taking?", for a broader scope of answers, since "taking" can mean more than one mode of administering medication, including but not limited to orally(ingestion), by injection, topically, through inhalation, or anally, though the last method has only a limited use. Roswell
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA -
The Grand Negus wrote:
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. If you'd like a response, please clarify. Thanks.
Doesn't compile?;P I'm simply saying that you appear to live in a somewhat surreal universe, presumably caused by drugs/medications, since nothing else can produce quite the same effect on your conscious mind. Perhaps i should ask "what are you taking?", for a broader scope of answers, since "taking" can mean more than one mode of administering medication, including but not limited to orally(ingestion), by injection, topically, through inhalation, or anally, though the last method has only a limited use. Roswell
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA -
RoswellNX wrote:
Aren't these[^] things actually static by nature?
Of course they are. I'm an absent-minded driver, often thinking of something else. Over the years I've acquired the "safe" habits of say, driving off the road onto the shoulder (rather than across the center line), and stopping at almost anything that's red. So I stop at a stop sign and go on thinking, while my subconscious driver waits for something green to appear in my peripheral vision. Of course, nothing does. But the subconscious also responds to honking horns and to the urgings of my loving and attentive wife, so it all works out. Especially when I simply let my loving and attentive wife drive.
