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Subersion - Anyone know about or use this?

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  • S Scott Dorman

    I have used SourceSafe and CVS at previous companies and much prefer CVS over SourceSafe. Subversion is essentially the "next evolution" of CVS, but it does have it's own little quirks. The open source site Sourforge used to use CVS and then recently (in the last year I believe) migrated everything to Subversion. I have used it with one of the open source projects I'm working with and love it. It runs over a standard HTTP connection so it can get around issues of firewalls, etc. and is pretty smart and efficient on the amount of data it transfers back and forth. A drawback is that there is no integration with Visual Studio, but that may not matter to you.

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    Chris McGlothen
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    Did you mean that there is no integration between Subversion and Visual Studio? I work in a 'Microsoft House' so we use VS 2005 for all our dev work. Thanks.


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      Did you mean that there is no integration between Subversion and Visual Studio? I work in a 'Microsoft House' so we use VS 2005 for all our dev work. Thanks.


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      Scott Dorman
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      You can integrate it with VS2005 using a third party tool like Ankh[^] but it still has some quirks. I actually think using TortoiseSVN[^] for interacting with the source control isn't bad once you get used to it.

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      • C Chris McGlothen

        I'm currently looking into incorporating a source control tool for the development team I work with, and Subversion came to me from a collegue and I'm looking for any experiences or recommendations. From what little I've gleaned so far it seems like a powerful open source add-in. What'd you think?


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        brown1971
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        Subversion (SVN) and Tortoise SVN, an SVN client that integrates with Windows Explorer, combine to make (in my opinion) the best source control solution in the field. If you don't have the resources to run your own SVN server, search for hosted solutions. There are a number of good ones available. BB

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        • B brown1971

          Subversion (SVN) and Tortoise SVN, an SVN client that integrates with Windows Explorer, combine to make (in my opinion) the best source control solution in the field. If you don't have the resources to run your own SVN server, search for hosted solutions. There are a number of good ones available. BB

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          Chris McGlothen
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          Thanks for the response. Do you run SVN and Tortoise only on the server or do you use additional addins?


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          • C Chris McGlothen

            Thanks for the response. Do you run SVN and Tortoise only on the server or do you use additional addins?


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            brown1971
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            SVN runs on the server and Tortoise runs on the developers (the client) machines. The documentation is very good, I think if you read through a bit of it you will get a good idea of how it all works. Here's a link to the main page for the Tortoise project: http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/ And a link to the documentation...read the Introduction, Basic Concepts and the Daily Use Guide sections: http://tortoisesvn.net/docs/release/TortoiseSVN_en/index.html Best of luck, BB

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            • B brown1971

              SVN runs on the server and Tortoise runs on the developers (the client) machines. The documentation is very good, I think if you read through a bit of it you will get a good idea of how it all works. Here's a link to the main page for the Tortoise project: http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/ And a link to the documentation...read the Introduction, Basic Concepts and the Daily Use Guide sections: http://tortoisesvn.net/docs/release/TortoiseSVN_en/index.html Best of luck, BB

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              Chris McGlothen
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              Thanks for the links, as I'm new to version controls I really appreciate the help.


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              • C Chris McGlothen

                I'm currently looking into incorporating a source control tool for the development team I work with, and Subversion came to me from a collegue and I'm looking for any experiences or recommendations. From what little I've gleaned so far it seems like a powerful open source add-in. What'd you think?


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                Wes Bell
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                Subversion is the best version control system I have ever used, and it is free! For Windows, the TortoiseSVN client integrates seamlessly with Explorer and works perfectly. Subversion is superior to CVS and far superior to Microsoft's Source Safe.

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                • C Chris McGlothen

                  I'm currently looking into incorporating a source control tool for the development team I work with, and Subversion came to me from a collegue and I'm looking for any experiences or recommendations. From what little I've gleaned so far it seems like a powerful open source add-in. What'd you think?


                  An American football fan - Go Seahawks! Lil Turtle

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                  Markus Gallagher
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                  We started out with Visual Source Safe and after about 1 month we ditched it in favor of Subversion and haven't looked back since. Subversion is vastly superior to VSS and CVS and I would argue THE best open source version control system.

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                  • M Markus Gallagher

                    We started out with Visual Source Safe and after about 1 month we ditched it in favor of Subversion and haven't looked back since. Subversion is vastly superior to VSS and CVS and I would argue THE best open source version control system.

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                    Chris McGlothen
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                    Markus Gallagher wrote:

                    We started out with Visual Source Safe

                    Does this mean that you also used Visual Studio? I'm currently looking into tools(Ankh) that will integrate the check-in/check-out functionality of Subversion right from VS. Thanks for the opinion BTW.:)


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                      RoswellNX wrote:

                      but i could be wrong

                      Yup. ;) The two are not related. SourceSafe is The Bane of My Existence, while Subversion is what i use on my own projects.

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                      Functionally, subversion is a hybrid of CVS and ClearCase (minus the fancy gui for version trees). It's in a similar league to perforce without the pricetag :~ There are also some extension tools to make it exceptionally easy to use, TortoiseSVN and kdesvn.

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                      • C Chris McGlothen

                        Markus Gallagher wrote:

                        We started out with Visual Source Safe

                        Does this mean that you also used Visual Studio? I'm currently looking into tools(Ankh) that will integrate the check-in/check-out functionality of Subversion right from VS. Thanks for the opinion BTW.:)


                        An American football fan - Go Seahawks! Lil Turtle

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                        Markus Gallagher
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                        we tried Ankh and it's garbage. It doesn't use the built-in version control API for VS 2005, so half the time it doesn't do what u want. besides, the look and feel is rather nasty, compared to the clean UI of the rest of the IDE. We now use Tortoise Plug-in for Explorer and it works great. It's really not that big of a deal to switch to the explorer window and commit ur changes. There are better plug-ins that integrate with VS 2005, however they are not free :(

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                        • C Chris McGlothen

                          I'm currently looking into incorporating a source control tool for the development team I work with, and Subversion came to me from a collegue and I'm looking for any experiences or recommendations. From what little I've gleaned so far it seems like a powerful open source add-in. What'd you think?


                          An American football fan - Go Seahawks! Lil Turtle

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                          woodyata
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                          I am starting to use Subversion as a replacement for Visual Source Safe, and it is so much better. It's a great back-end source control system. I am using TortoiseSVN as a client. TortoiseSVN is a Windows Shell extension. You can also get settings to integrate TortoiseSVN into Visual Studio. One of the big differences between Subversion and VSS is the versioning system. It's much better to read the Subversion doco than for me to try and summarise it for you. But I reckon the Subversion versioning scheme is great. I wouldn't call myself an expert by any means, but I am really impressed with how intuitive Subversion and TortoiseSVN are to use.

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