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i have a requirement of learning ajax recently. Now i dont know any scripting language, so to learn ajax do i need to learn any scipting lang. as javascript or something or i can directly go for ajax? If u can give some useful information on it n ajax it will be appreciated. i dont know whether this is the right column for posting this. Plz guide. Thank You. Nekshan.
You need to understand HTML and CSS first. Then understand the concepts of DOM. Then learn JavaScript. Then have a look at prototype (it will help you alot). Understand some server side language. ASP, ASP.NET, PHP, JSP... Understand HTTP and the 2 main request types. Then think of some useful way of putting all of them together... Apply them, and... ...da daaa!!!! you have AJAX!
Excellence is not an act, but a habit!
Aristotle
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Ajax is javascript, therefore you will have to learn javascript.
Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.
I have to say that AJAX is not JavaScript. AJAX can be achieved with the use of a client side scripting language, HMTL and DOM manipulation and some server side thingies... AJAX stand for asynchronoous javascript and xml. but still, you could achieve the same things with VB Script on the client (would only work in IE). AJAX-like techniques exist since the very early stages of the web. Those days we used hidden frames to get the same effect. As a concept it is very old. It got trendy nowadays coz Google used it on google maps and created a buzz around it.
Excellence is not an act, but a habit!
Aristotle
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You need to understand HTML and CSS first. Then understand the concepts of DOM. Then learn JavaScript. Then have a look at prototype (it will help you alot). Understand some server side language. ASP, ASP.NET, PHP, JSP... Understand HTTP and the 2 main request types. Then think of some useful way of putting all of them together... Apply them, and... ...da daaa!!!! you have AJAX!
Excellence is not an act, but a habit!
Aristotle
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theJazzyBrain wrote:
You need to understand
:laugh::laugh::laugh: wait... are you being serious? :-D
led mike
:laugh: Ok, you might need to understand what magnetic flux is aswell. :doh: hehe but really, am I wrong?
Excellence is not an act, but a habit!
Aristotle
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:laugh: Ok, you might need to understand what magnetic flux is aswell. :doh: hehe but really, am I wrong?
Excellence is not an act, but a habit!
Aristotle
theJazzyBrain wrote:
but really, am I wrong?
Of course not! It's just that some large percentage of developers don't think you need to understand anything other than the syntax of the language you are using. And it's not just here on CP, I work with some of them. X|
led mike
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theJazzyBrain wrote:
but really, am I wrong?
Of course not! It's just that some large percentage of developers don't think you need to understand anything other than the syntax of the language you are using. And it's not just here on CP, I work with some of them. X|
led mike
:laugh: we all do, have a nice weekend!
Excellence is not an act, but a habit!
Aristotle
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I have to say that AJAX is not JavaScript. AJAX can be achieved with the use of a client side scripting language, HMTL and DOM manipulation and some server side thingies... AJAX stand for asynchronoous javascript and xml. but still, you could achieve the same things with VB Script on the client (would only work in IE). AJAX-like techniques exist since the very early stages of the web. Those days we used hidden frames to get the same effect. As a concept it is very old. It got trendy nowadays coz Google used it on google maps and created a buzz around it.
Excellence is not an act, but a habit!
Aristotle
No. You are talking about Ajax-like development. If you wrote it in VB script then it would be close to the javascript version (well as close as VBscript gets anyway) but it would not be Ajax. The same applies for frame development. And also web developers were using Ajax techniques a fair while before google was releasing beta versions of their products, they just made it semi-famous with end users and non web developers.
Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.
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No. You are talking about Ajax-like development. If you wrote it in VB script then it would be close to the javascript version (well as close as VBscript gets anyway) but it would not be Ajax. The same applies for frame development. And also web developers were using Ajax techniques a fair while before google was releasing beta versions of their products, they just made it semi-famous with end users and non web developers.
Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.
Bradml wrote:
You are talking about Ajax-like development.
Yes I said that AJAX is not JavaScript. Coz strictly speaking, its a combination of JavaScript and XML, regardless how the XML is generated and then served to the client.
Bradml wrote:
If you wrote it in VB script then it would be close to the javascript version (well as close as VBscript gets anyway) but it would not be Ajax.
I so totally agree. I said that you could achieve the same thing by using another client side scripting language.
Bradml wrote:
And also web developers were using Ajax techniques a fair while before google was releasing beta versions of their products, they just made it semi-famous with end users and non web developers.
And I also said that developers used AJAX-like techniques since the early stages of web and that Google used proper AJAX in google maps and created a buzz around it and became popular.
Bradml wrote:
No
So your "NO" is the answer to what?
Excellence is not an act, but a habit!
Aristotle
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theJazzyBrain wrote:
but really, am I wrong?
Of course not! It's just that some large percentage of developers don't think you need to understand anything other than the syntax of the language you are using. And it's not just here on CP, I work with some of them. X|
led mike
Actually I am wrong... :doh::doh::doh: forgot to mention XML! You need to understand XML as well! .... and forget about magnetic flux!:laugh:
Excellence is not an act, but a habit!
Aristotle
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Bradml wrote:
You are talking about Ajax-like development.
Yes I said that AJAX is not JavaScript. Coz strictly speaking, its a combination of JavaScript and XML, regardless how the XML is generated and then served to the client.
Bradml wrote:
If you wrote it in VB script then it would be close to the javascript version (well as close as VBscript gets anyway) but it would not be Ajax.
I so totally agree. I said that you could achieve the same thing by using another client side scripting language.
Bradml wrote:
And also web developers were using Ajax techniques a fair while before google was releasing beta versions of their products, they just made it semi-famous with end users and non web developers.
And I also said that developers used AJAX-like techniques since the early stages of web and that Google used proper AJAX in google maps and created a buzz around it and became popular.
Bradml wrote:
No
So your "NO" is the answer to what?
Excellence is not an act, but a habit!
Aristotle
I thought that Ajax was strictly XML too, but I was proved wrong about that. but apart from that I guess we are on the same page then.
Brad Australian - Captain See Sharp on "Religion" any half intelligent person can come to the conclusion that pink unicorns do not exist.
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I thought that Ajax was strictly XML too, but I was proved wrong about that. but apart from that I guess we are on the same page then.
Brad Australian - Captain See Sharp on "Religion" any half intelligent person can come to the conclusion that pink unicorns do not exist.