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Pete O`Hanlon wrote:
Using tables is probably not the best idea. Normally, you would want to use CSS to layout the page.
So it should have been div tags instead of the table?
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Correct. If you want a good idea of how it should work, take a look at the site http://www.alistapart.com/[^]. They have plenty of tutorials/samples on how to achieve different types of layouts. Changing from tables also gives screen readers a chance with your page, and is generally a bit more Search Engine friendly.
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Pete O`Hanlon wrote:
Using tables is probably not the best idea. Normally, you would want to use CSS to layout the page.
So it should have been div tags instead of the table?
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Actually, this article should suit you very nicely. http://www.alistapart.com/articles/multicolumnlayouts[^]
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I wanted some *frank* opinions about this website I am doing now from the professional web devlopment guys here. http://www.micrologicnet.com[^] Thomas
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I wanted some *frank* opinions about this website I am doing now from the professional web devlopment guys here. http://www.micrologicnet.com[^] Thomas
Do you really need the validator button? :~ I mean, why would a potential customer care about your website having valid HTML/CSS? Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-validation, but it somehow seems out of place on a website like that.
Cheers, Vikram.
"...we are disempowered to cultivate in their communities an inclination to assimilate to our culture." - Stan Shannon.
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Do you really need the validator button? :~ I mean, why would a potential customer care about your website having valid HTML/CSS? Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-validation, but it somehow seems out of place on a website like that.
Cheers, Vikram.
"...we are disempowered to cultivate in their communities an inclination to assimilate to our culture." - Stan Shannon.
I put it there initially to check validity without having to go the validator site. You are right, though I will remove it.
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The borders are not a feature. Infact, the border must be the line that comes up because there is a link on them. I did some stylesheet stuff to remove those lines. What browser do you use? I don't have any showing on Firefox. I am on Linux, cannot use IE yet. I guess I will have to check all this on IE. Centering is a good idea, now that I think about it. Thank you for the response.
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In your stylesheet, do you can add:
:link img { border: none; } :visited img { border: none; }It fix any problem with border images :) Why do you use "Validome" and not the validator.w3.org?
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Its awfully busy, especially the products page. Too much text with not enough spacing between sections makes me not want to read it.
Thank you for the suggestion. I will do something about it. Thomas
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yeah drop the pink :) Also maybe center the site in the browser rather than left align. Finally maybe find some other way of telling the user the images at the bottom are links. Maybe its just me but the blue border doesn't quite fit. Though some or all of this might be wrong as design has never been my strong point ;)
The blue border was not intentional; but since I was using Linux while developing the site, I had not yet checked on IE. The style that worked on Firefox does not work on IE. I will soon test on IE and fix the problem. Thomas
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Actually, this article should suit you very nicely. http://www.alistapart.com/articles/multicolumnlayouts[^]
the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.Thank you very much for taking the effort to find me that article. Asking for opinions here was the best thing I did for some time now :) Thomas
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In your stylesheet, do you can add:
:link img { border: none; } :visited img { border: none; }It fix any problem with border images :) Why do you use "Validome" and not the validator.w3.org?
Engaged in learning of English grammar ;)
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:I can't thank you enough. I will immediately add that. Thomas
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I wanted some *frank* opinions about this website I am doing now from the professional web devlopment guys here. http://www.micrologicnet.com[^] Thomas
Home Page: -remove pink -try to get the same size buttons at the bottom for your links Services Page: -remove pink -try to get the same size buttons at the bottom for your links -maybe add just alittle padding between your text and boarders Products Page: -remove pink -try to get the same size buttons at the bottom for your links -maybe add just alittle padding between your text and boarders -do something with the charts hard to read -change the font color at the bottom of page: "What is active current sharing?" (color hurts) Reference page: -remove pink -try to get the same size buttons at the bottom for your links -maybe add just alittle padding between your text and boarders About us Page: -remove pink -try to get the same size buttons at the bottom for your links -maybe add just alittle padding between your text and boarders -like someone said before 'black hole is staring at me' Careers & Contact us Pages: -not finished God Bless, Jason
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Home Page: -remove pink -try to get the same size buttons at the bottom for your links Services Page: -remove pink -try to get the same size buttons at the bottom for your links -maybe add just alittle padding between your text and boarders Products Page: -remove pink -try to get the same size buttons at the bottom for your links -maybe add just alittle padding between your text and boarders -do something with the charts hard to read -change the font color at the bottom of page: "What is active current sharing?" (color hurts) Reference page: -remove pink -try to get the same size buttons at the bottom for your links -maybe add just alittle padding between your text and boarders About us Page: -remove pink -try to get the same size buttons at the bottom for your links -maybe add just alittle padding between your text and boarders -like someone said before 'black hole is staring at me' Careers & Contact us Pages: -not finished God Bless, Jason
Programmer: A biological machine designed to convert caffeine into code.
Developer: A person who develops working systems by writing and using software. [^]That is quite comprehensive. You have mentioned all the issues that others brought up, and many more. Thank you very much. It is very helpful.
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I wanted some *frank* opinions about this website I am doing now from the professional web devlopment guys here. http://www.micrologicnet.com[^] Thomas
Hey Thomas, This is probably a not-so-useful piece of feedback. You've put your contact number as follows : Call us now at 022 2596 8921 It's not very obvious to a non-Indian that, that's a Bombay number. Perhaps you could prefix +91 so it reads :- Call us now at +91 (0)22 2596 8921 The zero is in brackets because that's needed only when dialing from India. Or maybe this is better :- Call us now at 022 2596 8921 (from India) and at +91 22 2596 8921 (outside India) Again I know this is sorta feeble feedback. So please excuse me :-)
Regards, Nish
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Hey Thomas, This is probably a not-so-useful piece of feedback. You've put your contact number as follows : Call us now at 022 2596 8921 It's not very obvious to a non-Indian that, that's a Bombay number. Perhaps you could prefix +91 so it reads :- Call us now at +91 (0)22 2596 8921 The zero is in brackets because that's needed only when dialing from India. Or maybe this is better :- Call us now at 022 2596 8921 (from India) and at +91 22 2596 8921 (outside India) Again I know this is sorta feeble feedback. So please excuse me :-)
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)Nish That type of feedback is not weak. Too many companies rely on you knowing what country code they are in, and don't do anything to help people from other countries know what to dial. If you've posted contact information, and I can't get through on the first attempt then I'm not going to waste my time looking things up.
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Hey Thomas, This is probably a not-so-useful piece of feedback. You've put your contact number as follows : Call us now at 022 2596 8921 It's not very obvious to a non-Indian that, that's a Bombay number. Perhaps you could prefix +91 so it reads :- Call us now at +91 (0)22 2596 8921 The zero is in brackets because that's needed only when dialing from India. Or maybe this is better :- Call us now at 022 2596 8921 (from India) and at +91 22 2596 8921 (outside India) Again I know this is sorta feeble feedback. So please excuse me :-)
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)No problems. All suggestions are welcome. The company does business only in India (the business being structured cabling and network device trading), and hence it was a deliberate choice. I think that since prospective customers would be located in India, it is better to give a number suited to them. In the contacts page, I will give the phone numbers in both ways as you suggested. The responses were really awesome. Considering that this is my first web site after a long time (almost 7 years now), I wanted all the suggestions (and help) I can get. Thomas
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I will check that out. The few replies I have got until now has been very good. Your post pointed me to a valid reason why some people would need a higher font size. Thank you very much. Thomas
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No problem. I also noticed that the boxes in the menu bar highlight as the mouse moves over them, but the text only highlights when the mouse is over the text. Since you can only click on the text, can I suggest either (1) you don't highlight the boxes because you can't click on them, or (2) you highlight the text and boxes together and allow the boxes to be clicked on when highlighted.
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No problem. I also noticed that the boxes in the menu bar highlight as the mouse moves over them, but the text only highlights when the mouse is over the text. Since you can only click on the text, can I suggest either (1) you don't highlight the boxes because you can't click on them, or (2) you highlight the text and boxes together and allow the boxes to be clicked on when highlighted.
This was in my mind. But, my skills is not good enough to do that without some research. So, I thought I will finish all the pages first and get back to that issue. Now, since there is a site up, I am working on it also. Now that I think about it, if the <a> tag is taken outside the <div>, this issue would be solved. I will experiment with it right now. Thanks for all the suggestions. Thomas
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Here's my review. - First of all let someone make a stylish flash for you. The black hole stairs at me. - Center the everything. - Look at your css in IE and Firefox. (thin solid border is different from 1px solid border). - Give some padding on your tekst cells. So the text is better to read. This is my opinion. Do with it what you want.
I agree with those things except the flash. Better use of images (maybe not included in a black box). Centering is an absolute!
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Pete O`Hanlon wrote:
Using tables is probably not the best idea. Normally, you would want to use CSS to layout the page.
So it should have been div tags instead of the table?
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It depends on the situation and how much time you have on your hands getting it to look the same in different browsers. DIV can be nice, but there are a lot of quirks that go with them in different browsers. I try to do most of my layouts with DIVs, but I may whimp out and use tables if there is a time issue (does not justfiy the possibility of hours of work to fix quirks) just to use a DIV.
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It depends on the situation and how much time you have on your hands getting it to look the same in different browsers. DIV can be nice, but there are a lot of quirks that go with them in different browsers. I try to do most of my layouts with DIVs, but I may whimp out and use tables if there is a time issue (does not justfiy the possibility of hours of work to fix quirks) just to use a DIV.
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Thanks for the warning. I also thought that using tables was easier. But, I am also taking this opportunity to understand how things *should* be done in the ideal world. Once I get the website running, I will spend some time laying it out using div tags. Thomas
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