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  • S Stan Shannon

    Christian Graus wrote:

    No, they have the freedom to protest, I just wish they had the brains to not do so.

    I disagree. To tell any group that they should just ignore something and it will go away is exactly the same thing as telling gays that they should stay in the closet. The right to protest is often the obligation to protest.

    Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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    Stan Shannon wrote:

    To tell any group that they should just ignore something and it will go away

    So Islam was justified in its protest of the cartoons?

    System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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      Stan Shannon wrote:

      To tell any group that they should just ignore something and it will go away

      So Islam was justified in its protest of the cartoons?

      System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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      Christian Graus
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      Of course not. Some guy can talk about lynching gays in congress, that's freedom. This is different, obviously.

      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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        Stan Shannon wrote:

        To tell any group that they should just ignore something and it will go away

        So Islam was justified in its protest of the cartoons?

        System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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        Stan Shannon
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        Josh Gray wrote:

        So Islam was justified in its protest of the cartoons?

        Of course it was justified, if that is what got them upset. The fact that that is what it takes to get them upset when so much greater evil is done in the name of their religion is what was objectionable.

        Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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        • M Mike Gaskey

          Christian Graus wrote:

          the stupidity of Christians.

          as exhibited by?

          Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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          KaRl
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          The bombing of a theater for instance.


          Jouir et faire jouir sans faire de mal ni à toi ni à personne, voilà je crois le fondement de toute morale Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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          • T TimK

            Christian Graus wrote:

            Absolutely. Sadly, Christians are an easy target.

            Christianity is an easy target, and so it should be. The Bible is considered the most reliable source of historial information availiable by any serious academic researching the western mediterainian region at and around the time of Christ. There is nothing hidden or mystical about Christianity it's histroy and belief system is there for all to see and criticize. Christians are an easy target. I agree, those that don't understand the gospel and judge and condemn leave themseves, and others, open for acusation of hypocracy and worse. This is indeed sad. Christians are to lead people to Christ not condemn them to hell.

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            eggsovereasy
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            I think you mean Eastern Mediterranean, nothing in the Bible took place in Gibraltar.

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            • D Diego Moita

              Movie director James ("Titanic") Cameron is producing a new documentary where he claims that the real crypt of Jesus was found 27 years ago in Jerusalem, along with his wife and sons: http://time-blog.com/middle_east/2007/02/jesus_tales_from_the_crypt.html[^] :rolleyes: Even if it is true, does it really matter? Christianity is not about any "real Jesus" anymore. All religions are systems of beliefs where logic and scientific investigation doesn't apply or work. It is silly to believe that studying the real, historic Jesus will have any important meaning to Christians. And from a secular point of view: are mass market movie documentaries a suitable media for the debate of such a heated topic? Oh well, I guess he is just trying the old trick of creating hype through scandal. Silly of me to think that movie directors would really care about archeology and history.


              'My country, right or wrong' is a thing no patriot would ever think of saying except in a desperate case. It is like saying 'My mother, drunk or sober.'
              GK Chesterton

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              Don Miguel
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              Diego Moita wrote:

              ...where he claims that the real crypt of Jesus was found 27 years ago in Jerusalem

              Didn't you know this until today? I know these discoveries from 1981... It is clear, you should not spend so many time near computer and start read some books... :laugh::laugh: Please, don't throw with "1"'s... I'm angry, and I wait from those researchers to find soon the thomb of God, because, this is logically the next step.

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              • S Stan Shannon

                Josh Gray wrote:

                So Islam was justified in its protest of the cartoons?

                Of course it was justified, if that is what got them upset. The fact that that is what it takes to get them upset when so much greater evil is done in the name of their religion is what was objectionable.

                Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                Stan Shannon wrote:

                The fact that that is what it takes to get them upset when so much greater evil is done in the name of their religion is what was objectionable.

                And were talking about a container of piss. Who gives a fuck? Is there no greater issue in modern christianity? how about priests and little boys for example? Or how about that wacho yank who was paying teenage boys to blow him for drugs?

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                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                  The fact that that is what it takes to get them upset when so much greater evil is done in the name of their religion is what was objectionable.

                  And were talking about a container of piss. Who gives a fuck? Is there no greater issue in modern christianity? how about priests and little boys for example? Or how about that wacho yank who was paying teenage boys to blow him for drugs?

                  System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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                  Josh Gray wrote:

                  how about priests and little boys for example?

                  I'm actually pretty sure that is being dealt with.

                  Josh Gray wrote:

                  Or how about that wacho yank who was paying teenage boys to blow him for drugs?

                  Which one?

                  Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                  • S Stan Shannon

                    Josh Gray wrote:

                    how about priests and little boys for example?

                    I'm actually pretty sure that is being dealt with.

                    Josh Gray wrote:

                    Or how about that wacho yank who was paying teenage boys to blow him for drugs?

                    Which one?

                    Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                    I'm actually pretty sure that is being dealt with.

                    yeah paying off victims to keep it out of the media and protect the prists is dealing with it!

                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                    Which one?

                    Theres more than one? Figures :) Ted Haggard There just a couple of examples off the top of my head. Your point seemed to be that its ok for christians to protest the container of piss but not for islam to protest the cartoon because they have bigger issues to deal with. Im making the point that christanity has its own issues that are of more importance than a jar of wizz

                    System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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                      Stan Shannon wrote:

                      I'm actually pretty sure that is being dealt with.

                      yeah paying off victims to keep it out of the media and protect the prists is dealing with it!

                      Stan Shannon wrote:

                      Which one?

                      Theres more than one? Figures :) Ted Haggard There just a couple of examples off the top of my head. Your point seemed to be that its ok for christians to protest the container of piss but not for islam to protest the cartoon because they have bigger issues to deal with. Im making the point that christanity has its own issues that are of more importance than a jar of wizz

                      System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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                      Stan Shannon
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                      But the issue isn't a jar of piss. The issue is that federal tax money paid for that jar and for the piss that filled it. Yet the same government overtly suppresses similar funds for promotion of religious faith. That is a crucial issue within the context of American society.

                      Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                      • S Stan Shannon

                        But the issue isn't a jar of piss. The issue is that federal tax money paid for that jar and for the piss that filled it. Yet the same government overtly suppresses similar funds for promotion of religious faith. That is a crucial issue within the context of American society.

                        Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                        The issue is that federal tax money paid for that jar and for the piss that filled it. Yet the same government overtly suppresses similar funds for promotion of religious faith.

                        I fail to see any relation between government support for the arts and government support or suppression for the promotion of faith. Im sure the government has contibuted to many many equally crappy works of art, the only reason we are discussing this is because it offended a large portion of your community. Should the government support of the arts be conditional on the content of the art produced? or should the supported artist have the freedom to create whatever they like?

                        System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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