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    Before you read on, go ahead and start think of some good WTF were you thinking lines.. I have an HP running XP Home with 180gig. Well, I wasn't even using 1/4 of disk space so I decided Saturday night around 9pm to repartition the hard drive and split it in have and install Red Hat 7.3, I also had v8.0 which I guess I should have used. I was waiting to compare it to Ubuntu. First of all, I had done this several times before on other machines so no problem, you dual boot. I guess I should have waited until the next day. So, I used Gparted to work with the hard drive and then started loading up Red Hat. I had selected alot of packages(somewhere and 700 rpms). Well around package 100 and after asking for disk two and then disk one and then disk two, it asked for disk three. WAIT WHAT? Oh crap I had forgotten the version of 7.3 I had came on four different disk. The version of 8.0 I had came on just two disk. (By the time it was after mid-night) I tore the office apart looking for disk 3&4. and after a hour, nothing. Well, what can you do the install app. did not have any kind of rollback or exit feature. I hit every button & combo to try to get it rollback. There comes a time in every persons life when they must do something they really no really really don't won't to do( and it might have been the wrong thing to do)-I pushed the power button.:( I went to boot it back up and nothing but a lonely blinking cursor.... X| I had chosen to use Gurb or what ever that boot manager is for the dual boot evidently it didn't get installed correctly. So, I quickly put in 8.0 got it installed everything went great.:) Booted up, chose Red Hat, and went right in great! Nope, the next part was the strangest thing. I restarted, boot manager came up chose the XP OS and after I saw the XP logo the next thing I saw was my machine go into system restore and I was given two option manual restore or auto. Where was the exit button????? I guess it took the day off. And after hitting the power button earlier I was looking for the exit. So I chose manual hoping to find a cancel on the next screen. Well, there was nothin manual about it the system restored itself.:wtf: To top it off when it rebooted, it went right back into system restore when I choose the XP os again. By now it was earlier Sunday morning, I hit the power button went to bed and haven't looked at it since. Wonder what all files I lost on the XP partition after the system restore, I have never used it before never need to. Did it delete them all? I just have t

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      Before you read on, go ahead and start think of some good WTF were you thinking lines.. I have an HP running XP Home with 180gig. Well, I wasn't even using 1/4 of disk space so I decided Saturday night around 9pm to repartition the hard drive and split it in have and install Red Hat 7.3, I also had v8.0 which I guess I should have used. I was waiting to compare it to Ubuntu. First of all, I had done this several times before on other machines so no problem, you dual boot. I guess I should have waited until the next day. So, I used Gparted to work with the hard drive and then started loading up Red Hat. I had selected alot of packages(somewhere and 700 rpms). Well around package 100 and after asking for disk two and then disk one and then disk two, it asked for disk three. WAIT WHAT? Oh crap I had forgotten the version of 7.3 I had came on four different disk. The version of 8.0 I had came on just two disk. (By the time it was after mid-night) I tore the office apart looking for disk 3&4. and after a hour, nothing. Well, what can you do the install app. did not have any kind of rollback or exit feature. I hit every button & combo to try to get it rollback. There comes a time in every persons life when they must do something they really no really really don't won't to do( and it might have been the wrong thing to do)-I pushed the power button.:( I went to boot it back up and nothing but a lonely blinking cursor.... X| I had chosen to use Gurb or what ever that boot manager is for the dual boot evidently it didn't get installed correctly. So, I quickly put in 8.0 got it installed everything went great.:) Booted up, chose Red Hat, and went right in great! Nope, the next part was the strangest thing. I restarted, boot manager came up chose the XP OS and after I saw the XP logo the next thing I saw was my machine go into system restore and I was given two option manual restore or auto. Where was the exit button????? I guess it took the day off. And after hitting the power button earlier I was looking for the exit. So I chose manual hoping to find a cancel on the next screen. Well, there was nothin manual about it the system restored itself.:wtf: To top it off when it rebooted, it went right back into system restore when I choose the XP os again. By now it was earlier Sunday morning, I hit the power button went to bed and haven't looked at it since. Wonder what all files I lost on the XP partition after the system restore, I have never used it before never need to. Did it delete them all? I just have t

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      jason_lakewhitney wrote:

      Did it delete them all?

      [joke][no, really joking]Yes, windows doesn't use any files....[/no, really joking][/joke] ;P I just had to preface that real well since I am sure your nerves are shot. System restore affects mostly system files. You could roll-back to before you installed some software, but the files would still be there, they just wouldn't be any dlls in the system directory (for that program) or menu options. A reinstall should fix that, if that even happened. System restore points generally save you from the simple errors, but not the complex ones. The one thing that bothers me is it went back into system restore twice.... endless loops on system restore requests is nasty business... good luck! next time verify media before install of an OS... your heart will thank you...

      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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        jason_lakewhitney wrote:

        Did it delete them all?

        [joke][no, really joking]Yes, windows doesn't use any files....[/no, really joking][/joke] ;P I just had to preface that real well since I am sure your nerves are shot. System restore affects mostly system files. You could roll-back to before you installed some software, but the files would still be there, they just wouldn't be any dlls in the system directory (for that program) or menu options. A reinstall should fix that, if that even happened. System restore points generally save you from the simple errors, but not the complex ones. The one thing that bothers me is it went back into system restore twice.... endless loops on system restore requests is nasty business... good luck! next time verify media before install of an OS... your heart will thank you...

        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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        I was thinking the boot manager is pointing to the wrong XP partition.


        God Bless, Jason
        Programmer: A biological machine designed to convert caffeine into code.
        Developer: A person who develops working systems by writing and using software. [^]

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        • L lost in transition

          Before you read on, go ahead and start think of some good WTF were you thinking lines.. I have an HP running XP Home with 180gig. Well, I wasn't even using 1/4 of disk space so I decided Saturday night around 9pm to repartition the hard drive and split it in have and install Red Hat 7.3, I also had v8.0 which I guess I should have used. I was waiting to compare it to Ubuntu. First of all, I had done this several times before on other machines so no problem, you dual boot. I guess I should have waited until the next day. So, I used Gparted to work with the hard drive and then started loading up Red Hat. I had selected alot of packages(somewhere and 700 rpms). Well around package 100 and after asking for disk two and then disk one and then disk two, it asked for disk three. WAIT WHAT? Oh crap I had forgotten the version of 7.3 I had came on four different disk. The version of 8.0 I had came on just two disk. (By the time it was after mid-night) I tore the office apart looking for disk 3&4. and after a hour, nothing. Well, what can you do the install app. did not have any kind of rollback or exit feature. I hit every button & combo to try to get it rollback. There comes a time in every persons life when they must do something they really no really really don't won't to do( and it might have been the wrong thing to do)-I pushed the power button.:( I went to boot it back up and nothing but a lonely blinking cursor.... X| I had chosen to use Gurb or what ever that boot manager is for the dual boot evidently it didn't get installed correctly. So, I quickly put in 8.0 got it installed everything went great.:) Booted up, chose Red Hat, and went right in great! Nope, the next part was the strangest thing. I restarted, boot manager came up chose the XP OS and after I saw the XP logo the next thing I saw was my machine go into system restore and I was given two option manual restore or auto. Where was the exit button????? I guess it took the day off. And after hitting the power button earlier I was looking for the exit. So I chose manual hoping to find a cancel on the next screen. Well, there was nothin manual about it the system restored itself.:wtf: To top it off when it rebooted, it went right back into system restore when I choose the XP os again. By now it was earlier Sunday morning, I hit the power button went to bed and haven't looked at it since. Wonder what all files I lost on the XP partition after the system restore, I have never used it before never need to. Did it delete them all? I just have t

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          Get Bart PE and boot up go in and look at your boot.ini file (it might be another file, don't remember but it's easy to google and find out) the Windows XP boot manager is VANILLA. Find a static copy of it on the net and restore yours to what you find. That will/should get you going.

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            Get Bart PE and boot up go in and look at your boot.ini file (it might be another file, don't remember but it's easy to google and find out) the Windows XP boot manager is VANILLA. Find a static copy of it on the net and restore yours to what you find. That will/should get you going.

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            code-frog wrote:

            boot.ini

            That is correct. Remember that during the install I chose to use GURB boot manager. So I would assume that is take control away from XP boot man, right.?


            God Bless, Jason
            Programmer: A biological machine designed to convert caffeine into code.
            Developer: A person who develops working systems by writing and using software. [^]

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            • L lost in transition

              Before you read on, go ahead and start think of some good WTF were you thinking lines.. I have an HP running XP Home with 180gig. Well, I wasn't even using 1/4 of disk space so I decided Saturday night around 9pm to repartition the hard drive and split it in have and install Red Hat 7.3, I also had v8.0 which I guess I should have used. I was waiting to compare it to Ubuntu. First of all, I had done this several times before on other machines so no problem, you dual boot. I guess I should have waited until the next day. So, I used Gparted to work with the hard drive and then started loading up Red Hat. I had selected alot of packages(somewhere and 700 rpms). Well around package 100 and after asking for disk two and then disk one and then disk two, it asked for disk three. WAIT WHAT? Oh crap I had forgotten the version of 7.3 I had came on four different disk. The version of 8.0 I had came on just two disk. (By the time it was after mid-night) I tore the office apart looking for disk 3&4. and after a hour, nothing. Well, what can you do the install app. did not have any kind of rollback or exit feature. I hit every button & combo to try to get it rollback. There comes a time in every persons life when they must do something they really no really really don't won't to do( and it might have been the wrong thing to do)-I pushed the power button.:( I went to boot it back up and nothing but a lonely blinking cursor.... X| I had chosen to use Gurb or what ever that boot manager is for the dual boot evidently it didn't get installed correctly. So, I quickly put in 8.0 got it installed everything went great.:) Booted up, chose Red Hat, and went right in great! Nope, the next part was the strangest thing. I restarted, boot manager came up chose the XP OS and after I saw the XP logo the next thing I saw was my machine go into system restore and I was given two option manual restore or auto. Where was the exit button????? I guess it took the day off. And after hitting the power button earlier I was looking for the exit. So I chose manual hoping to find a cancel on the next screen. Well, there was nothin manual about it the system restored itself.:wtf: To top it off when it rebooted, it went right back into system restore when I choose the XP os again. By now it was earlier Sunday morning, I hit the power button went to bed and haven't looked at it since. Wonder what all files I lost on the XP partition after the system restore, I have never used it before never need to. Did it delete them all? I just have t

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              Earlier this week I resized my Windows partition to install Ubuntu. Unfortunately something went wrong, and it corrupted the partition. That happened twice. (I underestimated the space I needed for my Windows apps, and made my Ubuntu partition too large. So I tried to resize the partions... both operating systems = destroyed.) But everything is OK now, I've got Windows and Ubuntu installed on 2 different partitions, and I spent a while installing all my software and crap over the weekend. Also system restore usually doesn't delete documents or programs.

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                Earlier this week I resized my Windows partition to install Ubuntu. Unfortunately something went wrong, and it corrupted the partition. That happened twice. (I underestimated the space I needed for my Windows apps, and made my Ubuntu partition too large. So I tried to resize the partions... both operating systems = destroyed.) But everything is OK now, I've got Windows and Ubuntu installed on 2 different partitions, and I spent a while installing all my software and crap over the weekend. Also system restore usually doesn't delete documents or programs.

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                How do you like Ubuntu? That was the main reason why I was installing Red Hat, to compare it to Ubuntu.

                Sam 2006 wrote:

                partition too large

                I have a 180gig drive so just split gave ~90gig to Windows and 10gig to Linux root and ~80gig to Linux home. I used Gpart and have to attempt it worked get. Glad to know you got yours up and running. It made me so mad and the fact that I had other things todo this weekend that I just left it. Fix it later.


                God Bless, Jason
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                Developer: A person who develops working systems by writing and using software. [^]

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                • L lost in transition

                  How do you like Ubuntu? That was the main reason why I was installing Red Hat, to compare it to Ubuntu.

                  Sam 2006 wrote:

                  partition too large

                  I have a 180gig drive so just split gave ~90gig to Windows and 10gig to Linux root and ~80gig to Linux home. I used Gpart and have to attempt it worked get. Glad to know you got yours up and running. It made me so mad and the fact that I had other things todo this weekend that I just left it. Fix it later.


                  God Bless, Jason
                  Programmer: A biological machine designed to convert caffeine into code.
                  Developer: A person who develops working systems by writing and using software. [^]

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                  I'm having a very good time with Ubuntu :) I'm using it as my main operating system now, I'm an "XP convert". The only thing I use Windows for now is gaming, a lot of Windows programs I was able to run with Wine. Only thing I don't like about Linux (not specifically Ubuntu) is my video card has problems with 3d acceleration in both the open source driver and ATI's driver (Radeon 9250). I've got a 40 gb drive for Windows and Ubuntu, 20 gb partition for Windows, 20 gb partition for Ubuntu. I've also got a 160 gb drive, but it's an NTFS partition, so I can't write to it from Ubuntu (only read). I might need to get another hard drive, I need everything on my second hard drive so I can't repartition/format it. BTW, something I thought was sorta funny: Ubuntu supported my sound card without extra drivers, but in order to get sound in Windows, I needed to install other drivers.

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                    code-frog wrote:

                    boot.ini

                    That is correct. Remember that during the install I chose to use GURB boot manager. So I would assume that is take control away from XP boot man, right.?


                    God Bless, Jason
                    Programmer: A biological machine designed to convert caffeine into code.
                    Developer: A person who develops working systems by writing and using software. [^]

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                    I'm not sure on that one. I think you can open a command prompt from a repair cd and type "fdisk /fixmbr" and that will get XP completely in charge of it's own destiny again. Google that though.

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                      Before you read on, go ahead and start think of some good WTF were you thinking lines.. I have an HP running XP Home with 180gig. Well, I wasn't even using 1/4 of disk space so I decided Saturday night around 9pm to repartition the hard drive and split it in have and install Red Hat 7.3, I also had v8.0 which I guess I should have used. I was waiting to compare it to Ubuntu. First of all, I had done this several times before on other machines so no problem, you dual boot. I guess I should have waited until the next day. So, I used Gparted to work with the hard drive and then started loading up Red Hat. I had selected alot of packages(somewhere and 700 rpms). Well around package 100 and after asking for disk two and then disk one and then disk two, it asked for disk three. WAIT WHAT? Oh crap I had forgotten the version of 7.3 I had came on four different disk. The version of 8.0 I had came on just two disk. (By the time it was after mid-night) I tore the office apart looking for disk 3&4. and after a hour, nothing. Well, what can you do the install app. did not have any kind of rollback or exit feature. I hit every button & combo to try to get it rollback. There comes a time in every persons life when they must do something they really no really really don't won't to do( and it might have been the wrong thing to do)-I pushed the power button.:( I went to boot it back up and nothing but a lonely blinking cursor.... X| I had chosen to use Gurb or what ever that boot manager is for the dual boot evidently it didn't get installed correctly. So, I quickly put in 8.0 got it installed everything went great.:) Booted up, chose Red Hat, and went right in great! Nope, the next part was the strangest thing. I restarted, boot manager came up chose the XP OS and after I saw the XP logo the next thing I saw was my machine go into system restore and I was given two option manual restore or auto. Where was the exit button????? I guess it took the day off. And after hitting the power button earlier I was looking for the exit. So I chose manual hoping to find a cancel on the next screen. Well, there was nothin manual about it the system restored itself.:wtf: To top it off when it rebooted, it went right back into system restore when I choose the XP os again. By now it was earlier Sunday morning, I hit the power button went to bed and haven't looked at it since. Wonder what all files I lost on the XP partition after the system restore, I have never used it before never need to. Did it delete them all? I just have t

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                      I found a page where some folks had this same problem and the answer. http://www.ntcompatible.com/How_to_remove_GRUB_loader_t28242.html[^]


                      God Bless, Jason
                      Programmer: A biological machine designed to convert caffeine into code.
                      Developer: A person who develops working systems by writing and using software. [^]

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                        I'm having a very good time with Ubuntu :) I'm using it as my main operating system now, I'm an "XP convert". The only thing I use Windows for now is gaming, a lot of Windows programs I was able to run with Wine. Only thing I don't like about Linux (not specifically Ubuntu) is my video card has problems with 3d acceleration in both the open source driver and ATI's driver (Radeon 9250). I've got a 40 gb drive for Windows and Ubuntu, 20 gb partition for Windows, 20 gb partition for Ubuntu. I've also got a 160 gb drive, but it's an NTFS partition, so I can't write to it from Ubuntu (only read). I might need to get another hard drive, I need everything on my second hard drive so I can't repartition/format it. BTW, something I thought was sorta funny: Ubuntu supported my sound card without extra drivers, but in order to get sound in Windows, I needed to install other drivers.

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                        lost in transition
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                        Will Wine run most Windows based apps?


                        God Bless, Jason
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                        Developer: A person who develops working systems by writing and using software. [^]

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                          Will Wine run most Windows based apps?


                          God Bless, Jason
                          Programmer: A biological machine designed to convert caffeine into code.
                          Developer: A person who develops working systems by writing and using software. [^]

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                          Yes, so far every program I have tried to run has worked, but most of the software I used in Windows had free alternatives for Linux anyways.

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