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My home desk is customized to perfection. In fact, If I had the urge to get up, I would photograph it and show it :P It is made like this (from bottom up): Set of drawers to the right (pc next to it), and mini fridge to the left. Leg space in between and a little stool to keep my feet up. On top there's a massive piece of wood, screwed to the drawers and fridge. On top of the wood is my monitor and next to it is my laptop. A little dustbin resides to my left, in front of the fridge. I get up to visit the little programmers room, and apart from that I get up when i have to leave the house. So congratulations on getting your stool, once you get a fridge email me :P
Ericos Georgiades
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:confused: To broad brush a statement for me. So the 3 herniated discs in my back that feel immensely better when I elevate my legs are the sign of a bad work environment? Admittedly they do feel better if I go for 20 minutes walks a few times a day but that's about the only thing that matters. I still have to sleep with a muscle relaxant or I just don't get to sleep at all.:(
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:confused: To broad brush a statement for me. So the 3 herniated discs in my back that feel immensely better when I elevate my legs are the sign of a bad work environment? Admittedly they do feel better if I go for 20 minutes walks a few times a day but that's about the only thing that matters. I still have to sleep with a muscle relaxant or I just don't get to sleep at all.:(
Well whatever works for you I guess, however, I have had just about every conceivable back problem there is since I was 18 years old. I know intimately how it feels to have a back so wrecked that you literally have to crawl around on the floor to get from a to b and the pain is so intense you feel like throwing up. I've spent a *lot* of time and effort to setup a back friendly workstation and a foot rest has never entered the picture at all. I've seen them advocated for situations where you have no control over your chair / desk or ones that are not correctly adjustable. I find riding a bike helps a *lot* where walking doesn't for excercise as well, but again, whatever works for you, but I strongly urge you to have a good hard, well informed, look at your work station setup. If your back is even a tenth as bad as mine you owe it to yourself to invest time and money in this beyond the footrest.
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Well whatever works for you I guess, however, I have had just about every conceivable back problem there is since I was 18 years old. I know intimately how it feels to have a back so wrecked that you literally have to crawl around on the floor to get from a to b and the pain is so intense you feel like throwing up. I've spent a *lot* of time and effort to setup a back friendly workstation and a foot rest has never entered the picture at all. I've seen them advocated for situations where you have no control over your chair / desk or ones that are not correctly adjustable. I find riding a bike helps a *lot* where walking doesn't for excercise as well, but again, whatever works for you, but I strongly urge you to have a good hard, well informed, look at your work station setup. If your back is even a tenth as bad as mine you owe it to yourself to invest time and money in this beyond the footrest.
Funnier than hell you'd mention this :sigh: and maybe not. My back is killing me and has been for about a year. Remember me posting about a fall I had rollerblading? It's been hurting since then despite physical therapy and drugs. As it is 1 Lortab (Vicodin/Tylenol) and 1 Soma every night before bed or I cannot sleep. Sucks! What kind of chair do you have? I bought a $200 chair a few years ago but I'm in it so much I think the padding is shot. How often do you replace your chair and do you spend at least 10 hours a day (usually 12) during the week and about 6 hours each day on the weekend in it? How's this for 20 questions?:cool:
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Funnier than hell you'd mention this :sigh: and maybe not. My back is killing me and has been for about a year. Remember me posting about a fall I had rollerblading? It's been hurting since then despite physical therapy and drugs. As it is 1 Lortab (Vicodin/Tylenol) and 1 Soma every night before bed or I cannot sleep. Sucks! What kind of chair do you have? I bought a $200 chair a few years ago but I'm in it so much I think the padding is shot. How often do you replace your chair and do you spend at least 10 hours a day (usually 12) during the week and about 6 hours each day on the weekend in it? How's this for 20 questions?:cool:
It's nothing special for chairs, just the one that is adjustable in pretty much any direction and which is the right size (based on some ergonomics stuff that I read on the 'net). I've replaced the chair once (under warranty) in the last 4 years because a big fat guy sat on it when we had a party at hour house and screwed the back so it wouldn't tilt adjust any more. I'm not making this up, he just walked over to it and collapsed in it and he weighs easily 300 pounds or more. I don't spend that much time now, but in the fall and over the course of the last year I did, easily that much. Honestly once you get it all set up to the right specs, if your back is still hurting you need to excercise it. I've tried everything an nothing beats mountain biking about 3 to 5 hours a week in one hour shots. Specifically it has to be a mountain bike because I sit up straighter on it (more upright) than a road bike so it doesn't make things worse and starting out I road on a lot of level ground. It strengthens my lower back muscles, particularly the ones going down either side whatever they are called and gives me general healthiness. In particular I've learned to avoid at all costs stretching before or after a ride. I used to and it hurt my back worse. I read the latest info on it and there is a lot of good science now that confirms that stretching any more than basically the morning yawn when you get out of bed is *very* bad for your muscles. They are natural springs and stretching is like overstretchign a coil spring, it loses it's springiness and can't support like it's supposed to. Seems counterintuitive I know, but it seems to be a fact through personal experience. The only realistic way you could get through those hours without a sore back is if you got one of those zero gravity chairs where it puts your body in the same angles as when you are sleeping on your side with your knees tucked up a little bit which is the zero stress angles for a back and not sitting up straight as possible which is the worst angle for your back. There's no substitute for proper excercise. I used to get pissed off at people who said I had a sore back because I didn't excercise enough, I thought they were ignorant and just didn't understand sore backs at all, but in the end they were right.
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Funnier than hell you'd mention this :sigh: and maybe not. My back is killing me and has been for about a year. Remember me posting about a fall I had rollerblading? It's been hurting since then despite physical therapy and drugs. As it is 1 Lortab (Vicodin/Tylenol) and 1 Soma every night before bed or I cannot sleep. Sucks! What kind of chair do you have? I bought a $200 chair a few years ago but I'm in it so much I think the padding is shot. How often do you replace your chair and do you spend at least 10 hours a day (usually 12) during the week and about 6 hours each day on the weekend in it? How's this for 20 questions?:cool:
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It's nothing special for chairs, just the one that is adjustable in pretty much any direction and which is the right size (based on some ergonomics stuff that I read on the 'net). I've replaced the chair once (under warranty) in the last 4 years because a big fat guy sat on it when we had a party at hour house and screwed the back so it wouldn't tilt adjust any more. I'm not making this up, he just walked over to it and collapsed in it and he weighs easily 300 pounds or more. I don't spend that much time now, but in the fall and over the course of the last year I did, easily that much. Honestly once you get it all set up to the right specs, if your back is still hurting you need to excercise it. I've tried everything an nothing beats mountain biking about 3 to 5 hours a week in one hour shots. Specifically it has to be a mountain bike because I sit up straighter on it (more upright) than a road bike so it doesn't make things worse and starting out I road on a lot of level ground. It strengthens my lower back muscles, particularly the ones going down either side whatever they are called and gives me general healthiness. In particular I've learned to avoid at all costs stretching before or after a ride. I used to and it hurt my back worse. I read the latest info on it and there is a lot of good science now that confirms that stretching any more than basically the morning yawn when you get out of bed is *very* bad for your muscles. They are natural springs and stretching is like overstretchign a coil spring, it loses it's springiness and can't support like it's supposed to. Seems counterintuitive I know, but it seems to be a fact through personal experience. The only realistic way you could get through those hours without a sore back is if you got one of those zero gravity chairs where it puts your body in the same angles as when you are sleeping on your side with your knees tucked up a little bit which is the zero stress angles for a back and not sitting up straight as possible which is the worst angle for your back. There's no substitute for proper excercise. I used to get pissed off at people who said I had a sore back because I didn't excercise enough, I thought they were ignorant and just didn't understand sore backs at all, but in the end they were right.
I exercise 3 times a week minimum doing strength and cardio. Biking is one of the things that really causes my back to hurt like hell. I have sciatic nerve damage and mountain biking can really put the whammy on me. I started at 265 and am down to 215. I'm really trying to get to 200 and maybe even 190 if I can. Haven't really missed a work out in 2+ years.
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Funnier than hell you'd mention this :sigh: and maybe not. My back is killing me and has been for about a year. Remember me posting about a fall I had rollerblading? It's been hurting since then despite physical therapy and drugs. As it is 1 Lortab (Vicodin/Tylenol) and 1 Soma every night before bed or I cannot sleep. Sucks! What kind of chair do you have? I bought a $200 chair a few years ago but I'm in it so much I think the padding is shot. How often do you replace your chair and do you spend at least 10 hours a day (usually 12) during the week and about 6 hours each day on the weekend in it? How's this for 20 questions?:cool:
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Yeah that's pretty much what I do. I lean back put my feet up and cruise arond the IDE.
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http://www.sciencenewsforkids.org/articles/20040505/Feature1.asp[^] Only link I could find off the bat, but it explains exactly what I read a few years ago.
Now that one caught me off guard... Interesting I suppose. I've never been able to tell a single difference in stretching and not stretching other than I give up precious time I don't have to stretch for 20 minutes.
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I exercise 3 times a week minimum doing strength and cardio. Biking is one of the things that really causes my back to hurt like hell. I have sciatic nerve damage and mountain biking can really put the whammy on me. I started at 265 and am down to 215. I'm really trying to get to 200 and maybe even 190 if I can. Haven't really missed a work out in 2+ years.
Biking caused my back to hurt like hell for the first little while *because* I was directly working on the muscles that are part of the problem. After a couple of weeks it had and still has the opposite effect entirely. I would try it again, it's about as low impact as you can get as long as you take it easy, do it in small doses at first and try to relax. Cardio in a gym can be horribly bad for your back and spine if it's the kind that involves jumping around while standing. Just as bad as jogging.
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Biking caused my back to hurt like hell for the first little while *because* I was directly working on the muscles that are part of the problem. After a couple of weeks it had and still has the opposite effect entirely. I would try it again, it's about as low impact as you can get as long as you take it easy, do it in small doses at first and try to relax. Cardio in a gym can be horribly bad for your back and spine if it's the kind that involves jumping around while standing. Just as bad as jogging.
Recumbant bike. Probably as good as it gets for my injury which is what the neuro told me.