No war please!
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I have friends in Pakistan. Mustafa Demirhan and Imran Farooqui are two good CPian friends of mine. Spare the nukes please!!! Nish p.s. This really sucks. I just read the newspaper :-(
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Spare the nukes please!!! You know, this is ironic. You were advocating the stock piling of nukes a few months ago because it helped keep the peace or some such nonsense. Now you are begging for them not to be let loose. Well if they had not stock piled them in the first place there wouldn't be nukes to let loose. This is my firmly held belief: One day there is going to be an accident in a nuclear power. The rest of the world will simply react because it has been set up to automatically react to the launch of a nuclear weapon. If we did not stock pile these killers then the chance of this accident would not be there, we would only have to contend with nutters like Saddam Hussein. I heard the other day that Russia and America agreed to cut down their nuclear arsenal from 7000 of the truckers to "only" 2000. Now tell me if I am wrong, but 2000 nuclear weapons could quite as easily wipe out our world as 7000 can. This is an insane situation, one humanity is not ready to handle. Do away with the weapons before someone somewhere makes a very grave mistake. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge "Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated."
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I have friends in Pakistan. Mustafa Demirhan and Imran Farooqui are two good CPian friends of mine. Spare the nukes please!!! Nish p.s. This really sucks. I just read the newspaper :-(
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: This really sucks. I just read the newspaper Yea, situation currently looks very tense. Here, air force jets are flying since morning. Its after a long time that jets are continuously flying on the sky for about 12 hours. Imran Farooqui
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I have friends in Pakistan. Mustafa Demirhan and Imran Farooqui are two good CPian friends of mine. Spare the nukes please!!! Nish p.s. This really sucks. I just read the newspaper :-(
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
Kashimir conflitcs Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)
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Peterchen, war is not a good way to end overpopulation neither hunger , since war brings hunger and hunger brings overpopulation , just see Africa . What we need is better cooperation between countries and to arrange standard ways to help the countries in need . Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)
Please don't take my cynics as my attitude - it was just the idea that "overpopulation" is one of the most often hear arguments against distributing the food that e.g. the EU pays money to destroy or not raise in the first place. Promising studies show that educating women is the most effective approach to fight overpopulation.
guns don't kill people. cars do.
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I have friends in Pakistan. Mustafa Demirhan and Imran Farooqui are two good CPian friends of mine. Spare the nukes please!!! Nish p.s. This really sucks. I just read the newspaper :-(
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
Perhaps China should kick both your asses to teach you a lesson. Probabily is about the only which would settle the situation, short of one side destroying the other of course ... Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire"
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I have friends in Pakistan. Mustafa Demirhan and Imran Farooqui are two good CPian friends of mine. Spare the nukes please!!! Nish p.s. This really sucks. I just read the newspaper :-(
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: I just read the newspaper I didn't. What's going on ? Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002
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I have friends in Pakistan. Mustafa Demirhan and Imran Farooqui are two good CPian friends of mine. Spare the nukes please!!! Nish p.s. This really sucks. I just read the newspaper :-(
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
news.bbc.co.uk are reporting another bomb in Kashmir as we speak :(
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Spare the nukes please!!! You know, this is ironic. You were advocating the stock piling of nukes a few months ago because it helped keep the peace or some such nonsense. Now you are begging for them not to be let loose. Well if they had not stock piled them in the first place there wouldn't be nukes to let loose. This is my firmly held belief: One day there is going to be an accident in a nuclear power. The rest of the world will simply react because it has been set up to automatically react to the launch of a nuclear weapon. If we did not stock pile these killers then the chance of this accident would not be there, we would only have to contend with nutters like Saddam Hussein. I heard the other day that Russia and America agreed to cut down their nuclear arsenal from 7000 of the truckers to "only" 2000. Now tell me if I am wrong, but 2000 nuclear weapons could quite as easily wipe out our world as 7000 can. This is an insane situation, one humanity is not ready to handle. Do away with the weapons before someone somewhere makes a very grave mistake. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge "Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated."
Paul Watson wrote: One day there is going to be an accident in a nuclear power. The rest of the world will simply react because it has been set up to automatically react to the launch of a nuclear weapon. Oh my goodness. Please, please, please, PLEASE don't tell me you honestly think that a nuclear power plant can blow up like an A-bomb! -- Russell Morris "WOW! Chocolate - half price!" - Homer Simpson, while in the land of chocolate.
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Terrorists are now what once were "Agressors", or "Untermenschen", or "mediocre races".
guns don't kill people. cars do.
We western europeans needed two worlds wars to understand we wouldn't solve our problems like this. I suppose we can't expect the others to be more clear-sighted. We're talking shit, 'cause life is a 'biz You know it is Everybody tryin' to get rich God damn! All I wanna do is live ! KoRn, Children of the Korn
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Please don't take my cynics as my attitude - it was just the idea that "overpopulation" is one of the most often hear arguments against distributing the food that e.g. the EU pays money to destroy or not raise in the first place. Promising studies show that educating women is the most effective approach to fight overpopulation.
guns don't kill people. cars do.
peterchen wrote: Promising studies show that educating women is the most effective approach to fight overpopulation. I don't believe that only educating the women is a effective approach , and the other side of the coin , the men ? Nope, education should a prime choice for the 2 sides , and the developed contries should help by assuring a minimal education to underdevelopment contries , this of course will combat more effectively the overpopulation problem :-) Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Spare the nukes please!!! You know, this is ironic. You were advocating the stock piling of nukes a few months ago because it helped keep the peace or some such nonsense. Now you are begging for them not to be let loose. Well if they had not stock piled them in the first place there wouldn't be nukes to let loose. This is my firmly held belief: One day there is going to be an accident in a nuclear power. The rest of the world will simply react because it has been set up to automatically react to the launch of a nuclear weapon. If we did not stock pile these killers then the chance of this accident would not be there, we would only have to contend with nutters like Saddam Hussein. I heard the other day that Russia and America agreed to cut down their nuclear arsenal from 7000 of the truckers to "only" 2000. Now tell me if I am wrong, but 2000 nuclear weapons could quite as easily wipe out our world as 7000 can. This is an insane situation, one humanity is not ready to handle. Do away with the weapons before someone somewhere makes a very grave mistake. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge "Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated."
That opinion is all based on the assumption that one side wouldn't have already blown up the other if the other didn't have nukes. Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?
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Paul Watson wrote: One day there is going to be an accident in a nuclear power. The rest of the world will simply react because it has been set up to automatically react to the launch of a nuclear weapon. Oh my goodness. Please, please, please, PLEASE don't tell me you honestly think that a nuclear power plant can blow up like an A-bomb! -- Russell Morris "WOW! Chocolate - half price!" - Homer Simpson, while in the land of chocolate.
Russell Morris wrote: Oh my goodness. Please, please, please, PLEASE don't tell me you honestly think that a nuclear power plant can blow up like an A-bomb! Just because I come from deepest darkest Africa does not mean I do not know the difference. A nuclear power to me is a country with nuclear weapons, not just nuclear reactors. e.g. South Africa has a couple of nuclear reactors, but is not considered a nuclear power as we don't exactly have nuclear warheads sprouting out of our ears. In fact I live no more than 20 kilometres from the Koeberg nuclear power plant. If I thought it could go kablooi like Hiroshima I would not be living here. If I believed what you thought I believed then I would have thought the world would have been obliterated when Chernobyl melted down. But it didn't, so I don't. What I meant by an "accident" was the accidental launch of a nuclear weapon with sufficient range to get out of the country. Reports have shown that Russia was quite close to this very situation, especially during the Y2K "crisis" (apparently if a nuclear silo is out of contact with it's central controller for more than X days then it automatically launches, think about Y2K and a nuclear silo could suddenly find itself out of contact for 100 years, so launching.) Anyway, no of course I don't think a nuclear reactor and an A-Bomb are the same thing. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge "Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated."
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peterchen wrote: Promising studies show that educating women is the most effective approach to fight overpopulation. I don't believe that only educating the women is a effective approach , and the other side of the coin , the men ? Nope, education should a prime choice for the 2 sides , and the developed contries should help by assuring a minimal education to underdevelopment contries , this of course will combat more effectively the overpopulation problem :-) Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)
Of course both should be educated, but the interesting thing was that educating the women was much more effective in reducing birth rates. Probably 'cause men thing the best way to finish a day of higher calculus is going home and making some fresh bambinos. ;P
guns don't kill people. cars do.
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Spare the nukes please!!! You know, this is ironic. You were advocating the stock piling of nukes a few months ago because it helped keep the peace or some such nonsense. Now you are begging for them not to be let loose. Well if they had not stock piled them in the first place there wouldn't be nukes to let loose. This is my firmly held belief: One day there is going to be an accident in a nuclear power. The rest of the world will simply react because it has been set up to automatically react to the launch of a nuclear weapon. If we did not stock pile these killers then the chance of this accident would not be there, we would only have to contend with nutters like Saddam Hussein. I heard the other day that Russia and America agreed to cut down their nuclear arsenal from 7000 of the truckers to "only" 2000. Now tell me if I am wrong, but 2000 nuclear weapons could quite as easily wipe out our world as 7000 can. This is an insane situation, one humanity is not ready to handle. Do away with the weapons before someone somewhere makes a very grave mistake. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge "Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated."
Paul Watson wrote: I heard the other day that Russia and America agreed to cut down their nuclear arsenal from 7000 of the truckers to "only" 2000 These things always amuse me. It always goes something like this "OK. XXX people want us to eliminate our nuclear stockpiles. Here's what we're going to do. You eliminate 2000 and we'll eliminate 2000. Now it will take us an extra 35 seconds to destroy each other. This should satisfy XXX people for a while. (Oh, and by the way, we're only eliminating them on paper. We haven't actually constructed the equipment to dispose of them yet.)" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... Paul Watson wrote: This is an insane situation, one humanity is not ready to handle. Do away with the weapons before someone somewhere makes a very grave mistake. It is an insane situation. Unfortunantely eliminating the weapons isn't easy and doesn't even solve the problem. The technology will continue to exist and the availablilty of it will continue to increase. If the US and Russia (and the other 9 or so nations) get rid of their nuclear stockpiles it will not prevent rouge nations from obtaiining them in the future.
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Of course both should be educated, but the interesting thing was that educating the women was much more effective in reducing birth rates. Probably 'cause men thing the best way to finish a day of higher calculus is going home and making some fresh bambinos. ;P
guns don't kill people. cars do.
peterchen wrote: the best way to finish a day of higher calculus is going home and making some fresh bambinos ROTFL :laugh: Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)
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I have friends in Pakistan. Mustafa Demirhan and Imran Farooqui are two good CPian friends of mine. Spare the nukes please!!! Nish p.s. This really sucks. I just read the newspaper :-(
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
I hear all these calls for no war. That is all well and good, but how about we decided to STOP BLOWING EACH OTHER UP. I am beginning to think about the only way to resolve the issue is to have all the Pakistanis return to Pakistan, all of the Indians return to India, and all the Chinese return to China. Then just bloody nuke the land so NOBODY can have it. Until the crux of the issue is resolved, nothing will ever change. Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?
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That opinion is all based on the assumption that one side wouldn't have already blown up the other if the other didn't have nukes. Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?
Tim Smith wrote: That opinion is all based on the assumption that one side wouldn't have already blown up the other if the other didn't have nukes. I fully understand the arguement of "that guy has a nuke, we must have one" resulting in a kind of "stalemate." The problem with that is an accident could happen, right? However if no one had nukes then a: no deliberate launch could take place and b: no accident could happen. So naturally the latter situation, no nukes, is a better one. Also while I understand it, I don't like the idea of "at the very least while we are being wiped out, so will they be." It is a sickening thing to contemplate really. I just feel that nukes are not a wise thing for humanity to have. A nuke is not just a bigger stick of dynamite. It is a whole new ball game really. The simple fact that a nuke does not just affect it's target but could very well affect other locations thousands of miles away puts a whole new spin on just what is acceptable to use in a war. Once again to me it seems like we have come too far down the road to try and reverse. We have to now carry on plodding down this mine laden road hoping we don't stand on something, hoping some other converging road will suddenly bring us something which nullifies this nuclear threat. And it has to be a threat still (cold war or not) otherwise we would not all be holding onto every nuke we can. The whole situation just does not have much rationality to it, and accidents can and do happen. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge "Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated."
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Perhaps China should kick both your asses to teach you a lesson. Probabily is about the only which would settle the situation, short of one side destroying the other of course ... Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire"
Ray Kinsella wrote: Perhaps China should kick both your asses to teach you a lesson. Probabily is about the only which would settle the situation, short of one side destroying the other of course ... Oh wonderful. So instead of just the 1 billion Chinese citizens being under tyranical Chinese rule we would have the 1 billion Pakis and Indians under tyranical Chinese rule as well. I think even the Pakis and Indians would prefer killing each other to being under Chinese rule. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge "Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated."
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I hear all these calls for no war. That is all well and good, but how about we decided to STOP BLOWING EACH OTHER UP. I am beginning to think about the only way to resolve the issue is to have all the Pakistanis return to Pakistan, all of the Indians return to India, and all the Chinese return to China. Then just bloody nuke the land so NOBODY can have it. Until the crux of the issue is resolved, nothing will ever change. Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?
Tim Smith wrote: I am beginning to think about the only way to resolve the issue is to have all the Pakistanis return to Pakistan, all of the Indians return to India, and all the Chinese return to China. Unfortunately, IMHO , this isn't going to happen anytime soon , much the opposite, I simply don't see the pakistan separatists from Kashimir given up of their independence goal and India given up free will the territory ... to worsen the things I think China will not give up from Taiwan and will apply more violent means to force Taiwan to rejoin China , that could lead to US taking definitely the military side of Taiwan and ... but it's better not to think about it :~ Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)
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Paul Watson wrote: I heard the other day that Russia and America agreed to cut down their nuclear arsenal from 7000 of the truckers to "only" 2000 These things always amuse me. It always goes something like this "OK. XXX people want us to eliminate our nuclear stockpiles. Here's what we're going to do. You eliminate 2000 and we'll eliminate 2000. Now it will take us an extra 35 seconds to destroy each other. This should satisfy XXX people for a while. (Oh, and by the way, we're only eliminating them on paper. We haven't actually constructed the equipment to dispose of them yet.)" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... Paul Watson wrote: This is an insane situation, one humanity is not ready to handle. Do away with the weapons before someone somewhere makes a very grave mistake. It is an insane situation. Unfortunantely eliminating the weapons isn't easy and doesn't even solve the problem. The technology will continue to exist and the availablilty of it will continue to increase. If the US and Russia (and the other 9 or so nations) get rid of their nuclear stockpiles it will not prevent rouge nations from obtaiining them in the future.
Matt Gullett wrote: These things always amuse me. It always goes something like this "OK. XXX people want us to eliminate our nuclear stockpiles. Here's what we're going to do. You eliminate 2000 and we'll eliminate 2000. Now it will take us an extra 35 seconds to destroy each other. This should satisfy XXX people for a while. (Oh, and by the way, we're only eliminating them on paper. We haven't actually constructed the equipment to dispose of them yet.)" Man that is sick, but only because it is true. Matt Gullett wrote: If the US and Russia (and the other 9 or so nations) get rid of their nuclear stockpiles it will not prevent rouge nations from obtaiining them in the future. I think that is a moot point. What can a rogue nation do? Maybe construct 1 or at most 2 nuclear weapons. Yes, mass destruction nonetheless (but not global like 2000 can.) But vs. 2000 American nukes it is nothing. All America needs is 2 nukes to counter act the rogue nations 2 nukes. Once you go beyond 50 nukes WTF are you counteracting? With more than 50 you are endangering the entire world, not protecting it from some piss ant rogue nation who can blow up at most one American city (Yes, yes don't get all frothy kids, one city is still important, but it is not the whole damned world is it?) I think that is my major point. 2000 nukes is overkill. It is not helping anyone or anything. It is simple endangering the world, full stop. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge "Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated."