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    S Douglas
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    Small Software Developer Challenges Microsoft And Google With Free Operating System [^]

    Information Week Article wrote:

    For five years, Xcerion has been working on an XML-based Internet operating system, XIOS, that runs inside a Web browser. It's an abstraction layer that sits on top of a true operating system like Linux, Mac OS X, or Windows, just like Transmedia's Flash-based Glide Next media sharing environment.


    I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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      Small Software Developer Challenges Microsoft And Google With Free Operating System [^]

      Information Week Article wrote:

      For five years, Xcerion has been working on an XML-based Internet operating system, XIOS, that runs inside a Web browser. It's an abstraction layer that sits on top of a true operating system like Linux, Mac OS X, or Windows, just like Transmedia's Flash-based Glide Next media sharing environment.


      I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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      a) If Linux hasn't "radically alter the economics of software development" then a browser plugin won't b) "There are several reasons to run an XML-based operating system in a Web browser: security, data portability, freedom from hardware and platform lock-in, cost, built-in collaboration, and development productivity." They forgot to mention that it will cure cancer, end world hunger and make cats and dogs live together in harmony. We already have freedom from hardware lock-in. We already have data portability. We already have online collaboration. c) "XIOS should be immune to most malware because it runs in a sandbox, a virtual environment where code can be executed without risk to computing resources on the outside" Are they talking about malware or viruses? I think they need to lookup the difference. d) If I hear "XML based" again I will scream. Isn't that a bit like saying VB is text based? :^)

      cheers, Chris Maunder

      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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        The only way I feel it can have any credibility is if it's released as XIOS beta. If they mention it's Web 2.0 enabled, has built in RSS support and accepts commands only through the intermediary of a blog then I'll be impressed.

        cheers, Chris Maunder

        CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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        Eytukan
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        Chris are you noticing the negativity that's catching up with every thread? I saw few -35 mins ago. :rolleyes:


        Press: 1500 to 2,200 messages in just 6 days? How's that possible sir? **Dr.Brad :**Well,I just replied to everything Graus did and then argued with Negus for a bit.

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          a) If Linux hasn't "radically alter the economics of software development" then a browser plugin won't b) "There are several reasons to run an XML-based operating system in a Web browser: security, data portability, freedom from hardware and platform lock-in, cost, built-in collaboration, and development productivity." They forgot to mention that it will cure cancer, end world hunger and make cats and dogs live together in harmony. We already have freedom from hardware lock-in. We already have data portability. We already have online collaboration. c) "XIOS should be immune to most malware because it runs in a sandbox, a virtual environment where code can be executed without risk to computing resources on the outside" Are they talking about malware or viruses? I think they need to lookup the difference. d) If I hear "XML based" again I will scream. Isn't that a bit like saying VB is text based? :^)

          cheers, Chris Maunder

          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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          S Douglas
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          Chris Maunder wrote:

          then a browser plugin won't

          But, but doesn't making it "web enabled", make the OS Enterprisey?

          Chris Maunder wrote:

          They forgot to mention that it will cure cancer, end world hunger and make cats and dogs live together in harmony.

          Ah come on, they where trying to be modest, of coarse it will solve all of these and even more. :)


          I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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            Chris Maunder wrote:

            then a browser plugin won't

            But, but doesn't making it "web enabled", make the OS Enterprisey?

            Chris Maunder wrote:

            They forgot to mention that it will cure cancer, end world hunger and make cats and dogs live together in harmony.

            Ah come on, they where trying to be modest, of coarse it will solve all of these and even more. :)


            I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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            The only way I feel it can have any credibility is if it's released as XIOS beta. If they mention it's Web 2.0 enabled, has built in RSS support and accepts commands only through the intermediary of a blog then I'll be impressed.

            cheers, Chris Maunder

            CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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              a) If Linux hasn't "radically alter the economics of software development" then a browser plugin won't b) "There are several reasons to run an XML-based operating system in a Web browser: security, data portability, freedom from hardware and platform lock-in, cost, built-in collaboration, and development productivity." They forgot to mention that it will cure cancer, end world hunger and make cats and dogs live together in harmony. We already have freedom from hardware lock-in. We already have data portability. We already have online collaboration. c) "XIOS should be immune to most malware because it runs in a sandbox, a virtual environment where code can be executed without risk to computing resources on the outside" Are they talking about malware or viruses? I think they need to lookup the difference. d) If I hear "XML based" again I will scream. Isn't that a bit like saying VB is text based? :^)

              cheers, Chris Maunder

              CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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              Bradml
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              Secure.... are they certain it is web based? If they are then they are just feeding people a load of rubbish


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                Secure.... are they certain it is web based? If they are then they are just feeding people a load of rubbish


                Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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                Bradml wrote:

                are they certain it is web based?

                No, it'll be Web 2.0 based. In order to engage with the XML based distributed user generated secure collaborative framework.

                cheers, Chris Maunder

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                  Small Software Developer Challenges Microsoft And Google With Free Operating System [^]

                  Information Week Article wrote:

                  For five years, Xcerion has been working on an XML-based Internet operating system, XIOS, that runs inside a Web browser. It's an abstraction layer that sits on top of a true operating system like Linux, Mac OS X, or Windows, just like Transmedia's Flash-based Glide Next media sharing environment.


                  I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                  Eytukan
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                  [Goole,MS's Heavy voice]Thouuuu shallll bee boughtt tooooo....[/Heavyvoice]


                  Press: 1500 to 2,200 messages in just 6 days? How's that possible sir? **Dr.Brad :**Well,I just replied to everything Graus did and then argued with Negus for a bit.

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                    Bradml wrote:

                    are they certain it is web based?

                    No, it'll be Web 2.0 based. In order to engage with the XML based distributed user generated secure collaborative framework.

                    cheers, Chris Maunder

                    CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                    Bradml
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                    Ah  yes, when they updated version 1.93213 Delta they implemented the unbreakable security patch didn't they...


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                      Chris are you noticing the negativity that's catching up with every thread? I saw few -35 mins ago. :rolleyes:


                      Press: 1500 to 2,200 messages in just 6 days? How's that possible sir? **Dr.Brad :**Well,I just replied to everything Graus did and then argued with Negus for a bit.

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                      Bradml
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                      We are just so dam negative around here.... We need some brighter colours.....


                      Brad Australian - Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript" A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.

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                        Chris are you noticing the negativity that's catching up with every thread? I saw few -35 mins ago. :rolleyes:


                        Press: 1500 to 2,200 messages in just 6 days? How's that possible sir? **Dr.Brad :**Well,I just replied to everything Graus did and then argued with Negus for a bit.

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                        Today, Chris can blame it on DST :)


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                          a) If Linux hasn't "radically alter the economics of software development" then a browser plugin won't b) "There are several reasons to run an XML-based operating system in a Web browser: security, data portability, freedom from hardware and platform lock-in, cost, built-in collaboration, and development productivity." They forgot to mention that it will cure cancer, end world hunger and make cats and dogs live together in harmony. We already have freedom from hardware lock-in. We already have data portability. We already have online collaboration. c) "XIOS should be immune to most malware because it runs in a sandbox, a virtual environment where code can be executed without risk to computing resources on the outside" Are they talking about malware or viruses? I think they need to lookup the difference. d) If I hear "XML based" again I will scream. Isn't that a bit like saying VB is text based? :^)

                          cheers, Chris Maunder

                          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                          Paul Watson
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                          Thanks to the article not linking to the project I did a Google search for XIOS and got; XIOS, authentic Greek cuisine[^].

                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                          And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                            Thanks to the article not linking to the project I did a Google search for XIOS and got; XIOS, authentic Greek cuisine[^].

                            regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                            Shog9 wrote:

                            And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                            Rajesh R Subramanian
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                            Why do I seem to be inclined more to the cuisine, rather than the OS? :~


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                              Small Software Developer Challenges Microsoft And Google With Free Operating System [^]

                              Information Week Article wrote:

                              For five years, Xcerion has been working on an XML-based Internet operating system, XIOS, that runs inside a Web browser. It's an abstraction layer that sits on top of a true operating system like Linux, Mac OS X, or Windows, just like Transmedia's Flash-based Glide Next media sharing environment.


                              I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                              Dave Kreskowiak
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                              I don't it's Microsoft and Google that have anything to worry about. Without a REAL O/S supporting the browser, supplying stuff like, oh, a TCP/IP stack, a filesystem to store stuff on (it IS an O/S, right?) and a display driver and rendering system, there's no web browser! It's Sun and Java that's got something to worry about. If this thing has any kind of performance, Java's in big trouble. As far as security, "Immune..." is very LARGE promise and I would be will to bet that this O/S will have its own security problems and, at best, its only as secure as the browser under it is. We all know better than to make promises in this industry, don't we? :-D

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                                I don't it's Microsoft and Google that have anything to worry about. Without a REAL O/S supporting the browser, supplying stuff like, oh, a TCP/IP stack, a filesystem to store stuff on (it IS an O/S, right?) and a display driver and rendering system, there's no web browser! It's Sun and Java that's got something to worry about. If this thing has any kind of performance, Java's in big trouble. As far as security, "Immune..." is very LARGE promise and I would be will to bet that this O/S will have its own security problems and, at best, its only as secure as the browser under it is. We all know better than to make promises in this industry, don't we? :-D

                                Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic

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                                Jerry Hammond
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                                Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                                As far as security, "Immune..." is very LARGE promise and I would be will to bet that this O/S will have its own security problems and, at best, its only as secure as the browser under it is. We all know better than to make promises in this industry, don't we?

                                Is that a promise? It sounds like a promise.

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                                  a) If Linux hasn't "radically alter the economics of software development" then a browser plugin won't b) "There are several reasons to run an XML-based operating system in a Web browser: security, data portability, freedom from hardware and platform lock-in, cost, built-in collaboration, and development productivity." They forgot to mention that it will cure cancer, end world hunger and make cats and dogs live together in harmony. We already have freedom from hardware lock-in. We already have data portability. We already have online collaboration. c) "XIOS should be immune to most malware because it runs in a sandbox, a virtual environment where code can be executed without risk to computing resources on the outside" Are they talking about malware or viruses? I think they need to lookup the difference. d) If I hear "XML based" again I will scream. Isn't that a bit like saying VB is text based? :^)

                                  cheers, Chris Maunder

                                  CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                  Christian Graus
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                                  Chris Maunder wrote:

                                  then a browser plugin won't

                                  But, it uses XML !!! How can something that use XML NOT be awesome ? Get with the program !!!

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                                    I don't it's Microsoft and Google that have anything to worry about. Without a REAL O/S supporting the browser, supplying stuff like, oh, a TCP/IP stack, a filesystem to store stuff on (it IS an O/S, right?) and a display driver and rendering system, there's no web browser! It's Sun and Java that's got something to worry about. If this thing has any kind of performance, Java's in big trouble. As far as security, "Immune..." is very LARGE promise and I would be will to bet that this O/S will have its own security problems and, at best, its only as secure as the browser under it is. We all know better than to make promises in this industry, don't we? :-D

                                    Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic

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                                    Christian Graus
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                                    It's immune, all tests to date have proven that. Obviously, if it's ever in use in the 'real world', all that will change.

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                                      The only way I feel it can have any credibility is if it's released as XIOS beta. If they mention it's Web 2.0 enabled, has built in RSS support and accepts commands only through the intermediary of a blog then I'll be impressed.

                                      cheers, Chris Maunder

                                      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                      Rob Manderson
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                                      Chris Maunder wrote:

                                      then I'll be impressed

                                      Yeah, but you're easily impressed :)

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                                        Small Software Developer Challenges Microsoft And Google With Free Operating System [^]

                                        Information Week Article wrote:

                                        For five years, Xcerion has been working on an XML-based Internet operating system, XIOS, that runs inside a Web browser. It's an abstraction layer that sits on top of a true operating system like Linux, Mac OS X, or Windows, just like Transmedia's Flash-based Glide Next media sharing environment.


                                        I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                                        :laugh: :laugh: But wait - where's the bit about how it can transfer, over a modem, huge movies in 0 (YES ZERO!!) seconds? :rolleyes:

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                                          a) If Linux hasn't "radically alter the economics of software development" then a browser plugin won't b) "There are several reasons to run an XML-based operating system in a Web browser: security, data portability, freedom from hardware and platform lock-in, cost, built-in collaboration, and development productivity." They forgot to mention that it will cure cancer, end world hunger and make cats and dogs live together in harmony. We already have freedom from hardware lock-in. We already have data portability. We already have online collaboration. c) "XIOS should be immune to most malware because it runs in a sandbox, a virtual environment where code can be executed without risk to computing resources on the outside" Are they talking about malware or viruses? I think they need to lookup the difference. d) If I hear "XML based" again I will scream. Isn't that a bit like saying VB is text based? :^)

                                          cheers, Chris Maunder

                                          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                          Roger Wright
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                                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                                          VB is text based?

                                          We're treading on thin ice here, Chris. Last I checked, C++ and C# are both text-based, too!:omg:

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