Stop whining
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Shog9 wrote:
I understand the yearning for a Fearless Leader to put your hopes in
I for one don't want a "leader". I want a government that implements my ideals.
Red Stateler wrote:
I want a government that implements my ideals.
You want a servant. So look for people who are good at following orders. ...and pray they take orders from the people who elected them instead of the people who funded their ad campaigns...
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It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.
--Raymond Chen on MSDN
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Shog9 wrote:
I understand the yearning for a Fearless Leader to put your hopes in
I for one don't want a "leader". I want a government that implements my ideals.
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Look. I understand the yearning for a Fearless Leader to put your hopes in... but can we just accept that it's not gonna be someone emerging from this system? Face it - you don't get to where Bush is, or Clinton was, or Rudy/Clinton/Obama want to be without trading something for it, and unless you're just rolling in money going in, that "something" is gonna be yourself. They're all whores. Fancy, expensive whores, and hey, maybe the one you're backing really does have that heart of gold... but, they're still whores, and that's all you can expect of 'em. So enough acting shocked at the hypocrisy, the lies, the ludicrous gimmicks. It's all an act, a cheesy improv designed by us - because we know they're whores, but still want to see 'em pretending to be honest, upstanding citizens, a prancing mockery of a fiction whose origins we barely even recall. Stop chiding the whores for acting like whores. Start chiding yourselves for buying them. (and no, this isn't directed specifically at you, Mike - i just didn't feel like starting a new thread)
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It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.
--Raymond Chen on MSDN
Shog9 wrote:
Start chiding yourselves for buying them.
Of course "I" don't and I posted as much last week[^]
Shog9 wrote:
Stop chiding the whores for acting like whores.
Yeah, I could care less what any of those washington pukes do or say... but the people here in the Soapbox, that's another fish to fry. :-D
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led mike
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What is all this whining about a double standard? The Republicans have the platform of Religion and Family Values, constantly claiming moral superiority... then you want to whine about a double standard. Please could just one republican in the Soapbox please step forward and explain the logic in this seemingly inescapable contradiction? And no, this does not mean that someone like Ilion should post another list of Democratic leaders and their misadventures as if there is no list of Republican leaders misadventures.
led mike
led mike wrote:
The Republicans have the platform of Religion and Family Values, constantly claiming moral superiority...
That very comment is an example of the double standard.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
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led mike wrote:
The Republicans have the platform of Religion and Family Values, constantly claiming moral superiority...
That very comment is an example of the double standard.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
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led mike wrote:
The Republicans have the platform of Religion and Family Values, constantly claiming moral superiority...
That very comment is an example of the double standard.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
Stan Shannon wrote:
That very comment is an example of the double standard.
Are you serious? Another whine is your response? Did I ask for an example? Did I even question the existence of the double standard? Not a single one of you has even attempted to address the question. You have proven, once again, that beyond regurgitating your own brainwashed superiority rhetoric, you have no capability for real discussion.
led mike
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Stan Shannon wrote:
That very comment is an example of the double standard.
Are you serious? Another whine is your response? Did I ask for an example? Did I even question the existence of the double standard? Not a single one of you has even attempted to address the question. You have proven, once again, that beyond regurgitating your own brainwashed superiority rhetoric, you have no capability for real discussion.
led mike
led mike wrote:
Not a single one of you has even attempted to address the question.
I'm still trying to understand your question. You asked "What's with all the whining about a double standard", then went on to say that Republicans have a double standard for promoting "family values". I told you they don't since a violation of that standard generally results in removal (rather than promotions that Democrats get). You failed to respond to that comment because it brings down your argument. Now you're accusing people of having no capability for a real discussion. Wow.
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Shog9 wrote:
I understand the yearning for a Fearless Leader to put your hopes in
I for one don't want a "leader". I want a government that implements my ideals.
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Stop wasting your time with this moron. Ignore him. It's not hard to figure out he craves attention. Deny him what he so desperately wants or continue to suffer through his pathetic, rambling posts.
I just went back to see what he has posted since last night, so I'd know what to vote as spam the next time round, and most of his messages have been removed. :doh:
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led mike wrote:
Not a single one of you has even attempted to address the question.
I'm still trying to understand your question. You asked "What's with all the whining about a double standard", then went on to say that Republicans have a double standard for promoting "family values". I told you they don't since a violation of that standard generally results in removal (rather than promotions that Democrats get). You failed to respond to that comment because it brings down your argument. Now you're accusing people of having no capability for a real discussion. Wow.
Red Stateler wrote:
I'm still trying to understand your question.
No you are not.
Red Stateler wrote:
then went on to say that Republicans have a double standard for promoting "family values".
I said that in my OP on this thread? Where? Here is my statement, it does not say what you claim:
led mike wrote:
The Republicans have the platform of Religion and Family Values, constantly claiming moral superiority... then you want to whine about a double standard.
now here is the question
led mike wrote:
explain the logic in this seemingly inescapable contradiction?
How is that NOT crystal clear? You always claim to have superior reading skills don't you?
led mike
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Shog9 wrote:
You want a servant. So look for people who are good at following orders. ...and pray they take orders from the people who elected them instead of the people who funded their ad campaigns...
I want a public servant, but that doesn't imply someone who simply takes orders, but rather fulfills the duties of their office for the benefit of America.
That's the ideal leader everyone would want, but it's only a dream. Like those people who tried to achieve communism, the idea is good, but it is impossible to achieve; the closest that they got is national socialism. Anyway, I don't think there is another George Washington or James Madison that will come along and save us. The constant growth of the bureaucracy in the government and the military industrial complex, and along with the influence of corporations in the legislating process has killed any chance of anyone trying to do the right thing. Well, unless there's a revolution and we start over again and implement the lessons learned. After awhile, the process would have to start over again and it becomes a cycle. Just my $0.02
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Red Stateler wrote:
I'm still trying to understand your question.
No you are not.
Red Stateler wrote:
then went on to say that Republicans have a double standard for promoting "family values".
I said that in my OP on this thread? Where? Here is my statement, it does not say what you claim:
led mike wrote:
The Republicans have the platform of Religion and Family Values, constantly claiming moral superiority... then you want to whine about a double standard.
now here is the question
led mike wrote:
explain the logic in this seemingly inescapable contradiction?
How is that NOT crystal clear? You always claim to have superior reading skills don't you?
led mike
led mike wrote:
led mike wrote: The Republicans have the platform of Religion and Family Values, constantly claiming moral superiority... then you want to whine about a double standard. now here is the question
Because that statement is not true, hence there is no contradiction. Quoteing leftist propaganda is not a compelling argument.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
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Red Stateler wrote:
I'm still trying to understand your question.
No you are not.
Red Stateler wrote:
then went on to say that Republicans have a double standard for promoting "family values".
I said that in my OP on this thread? Where? Here is my statement, it does not say what you claim:
led mike wrote:
The Republicans have the platform of Religion and Family Values, constantly claiming moral superiority... then you want to whine about a double standard.
now here is the question
led mike wrote:
explain the logic in this seemingly inescapable contradiction?
How is that NOT crystal clear? You always claim to have superior reading skills don't you?
led mike
Like Stan said, the only way your statement makes sense is if there is a contradiction there. And as I pointed out, there isn't one, which makes your statement meaningless. That's why I asked what you were talking about.
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Dont talk to this infadel, One day he will be begging you for a drop of water on his tounge when he is burning in hell! :rolleyes:
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led mike wrote:
led mike wrote: The Republicans have the platform of Religion and Family Values, constantly claiming moral superiority... then you want to whine about a double standard. now here is the question
Because that statement is not true, hence there is no contradiction. Quoteing leftist propaganda is not a compelling argument.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
Stan Shannon wrote:
Because that statement is not true
Hmmm... ok I'll bite. Which part is not true? 1) The Republican Platform of Religion and Family Values 2) Republicans in the Soapbox claiming moral superiority 3) Republicans in the Soapbox whining about a double standard
led mike
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Because that statement is not true
Hmmm... ok I'll bite. Which part is not true? 1) The Republican Platform of Religion and Family Values 2) Republicans in the Soapbox claiming moral superiority 3) Republicans in the Soapbox whining about a double standard
led mike
Your statement:
led mike wrote:
The Republicans have the platform of Religion and Family Values, constantly claiming moral superiority... then you want to whine about a double standard.
The word "then" makes the underlined portion a statement of contradiction. It indicates that claiming moral superiority denotes that conservatives are exempted from whining about a double standard (presumably because it's hypocritical...the only liberal vice). But in order to make any sense (within the contect of your hypocritical implication), conservatives would have to be violating that moral standard. As I pointed out in my first response, the fact that conservatives commit immoral acts is expected. But the standard requires action on those immoral acts...Something conservatives are consistent about. That fact contradicts your claims of hypocrisy because there is no demonstrably lacking morality, which renders your statement moot. That's why I asked what you were talking about when you continued rambling. Btw, Stan is saying that leftists claim a moral superiority via their secular humanist morality (e.g. war is immoral, republicans are corrupt, etc...).
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Your statement:
led mike wrote:
The Republicans have the platform of Religion and Family Values, constantly claiming moral superiority... then you want to whine about a double standard.
The word "then" makes the underlined portion a statement of contradiction. It indicates that claiming moral superiority denotes that conservatives are exempted from whining about a double standard (presumably because it's hypocritical...the only liberal vice). But in order to make any sense (within the contect of your hypocritical implication), conservatives would have to be violating that moral standard. As I pointed out in my first response, the fact that conservatives commit immoral acts is expected. But the standard requires action on those immoral acts...Something conservatives are consistent about. That fact contradicts your claims of hypocrisy because there is no demonstrably lacking morality, which renders your statement moot. That's why I asked what you were talking about when you continued rambling. Btw, Stan is saying that leftists claim a moral superiority via their secular humanist morality (e.g. war is immoral, republicans are corrupt, etc...).
Red Stateler wrote:
But in order to make any sense (within the contect of your hypocritical implication), conservatives would have to be violating that moral standard.
This thread is not about hypocrisy, we can always get back to that, it is simply about "STOP WHINING" about the double standard.
Red Stateler wrote:
Btw, Stan is saying that leftists claim a moral superiority
Yeah you two say all sorts of things you can't back up, so what?
led mike
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Red Stateler wrote:
But in order to make any sense (within the contect of your hypocritical implication), conservatives would have to be violating that moral standard.
This thread is not about hypocrisy, we can always get back to that, it is simply about "STOP WHINING" about the double standard.
Red Stateler wrote:
Btw, Stan is saying that leftists claim a moral superiority
Yeah you two say all sorts of things you can't back up, so what?
led mike
led mike wrote:
This thread is not about hypocrisy, we can always get back to that, it is simply about "STOP WHINING" about the double standard.
Well then back to the original question. What are you rambling on about? You original posts makes absolutely no sense. It doesn't even imply "stop whining" just because you're annoyed of your blatant hypocrisy.
led mike wrote:
Yeah you two say all sorts of things you can't back up, so what?
Yeah, I gave you two specific examples.
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led mike wrote:
This thread is not about hypocrisy, we can always get back to that, it is simply about "STOP WHINING" about the double standard.
Well then back to the original question. What are you rambling on about? You original posts makes absolutely no sense. It doesn't even imply "stop whining" just because you're annoyed of your blatant hypocrisy.
led mike wrote:
Yeah you two say all sorts of things you can't back up, so what?
Yeah, I gave you two specific examples.