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  • C Chris Maunder

    The soapbox is for posts that aren't appropriate elsewhere. It is not a place to start flame wars, troll, push agendas or abuse the community. It's a forum like any other forum with the same rules of responsibility and civility. This is pathetic and honestly, I'm ready to just close it up.

    cheers, Chris Maunder

    CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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    realJSOP
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    Chris Maunder wrote:

    I'm ready to just close it up

    That's what Ilion wants. It seems that most - if not all - of the SoapBoxers are united in their opinion of the Ilion person. What you probably should do is find out who this guy's ISP is and report him for abuse, and then block the ISP's IP subnet from being allowed to post on CP.

    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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      Chris Maunder wrote:

      I'm ready to just close it up

      That's what Ilion wants. It seems that most - if not all - of the SoapBoxers are united in their opinion of the Ilion person. What you probably should do is find out who this guy's ISP is and report him for abuse, and then block the ISP's IP subnet from being allowed to post on CP.

      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

      find out who this guy's ISP is and report him for abuse

      Why would his ISP care if he is bothering people on CP? :confused:


      CleaKO

      "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
      "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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        Chris Maunder wrote:

        I'm ready to just close it up

        That's what Ilion wants. It seems that most - if not all - of the SoapBoxers are united in their opinion of the Ilion person. What you probably should do is find out who this guy's ISP is and report him for abuse, and then block the ISP's IP subnet from being allowed to post on CP.

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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        Try Troy D. Hailey of Mansfield, OH.

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          Chris Maunder wrote:

          I'm ready to just close it up

          That's what Ilion wants. It seems that most - if not all - of the SoapBoxers are united in their opinion of the Ilion person. What you probably should do is find out who this guy's ISP is and report him for abuse, and then block the ISP's IP subnet from being allowed to post on CP.

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
          -----
          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

          That's what Ilion wants

          Actually it isn't. What he wants is to be able to post his opinions and have them stay in view and not be voted as abusive. Whether or not his posts are abusive, spam, or even vaguely appropriate is another thing. I can block him easily but I'd prefer to listen to his side first.

          cheers, Chris Maunder

          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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            Try Troy D. Hailey of Mansfield, OH.

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            Marcus J Smith
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            Who's that?


            CleaKO

            "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
            "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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              Chris Maunder wrote:

              I'm ready to just close it up

              That's what Ilion wants. It seems that most - if not all - of the SoapBoxers are united in their opinion of the Ilion person. What you probably should do is find out who this guy's ISP is and report him for abuse, and then block the ISP's IP subnet from being allowed to post on CP.

              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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              Ilion
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              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

              That's what Ilion wants.

              It is not.

              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

              It seems that most - if not all - of the SoapBoxers are united in their opinion of the Ilion person.

              And if they are all united in their opinion that the Moon is made of green cheese, is the Moon made of green cheese?

              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

              What you probably should do is find out who this guy's ISP is and report him for abuse, and then block the ISP's IP subnet from being allowed to post on CP.

              OR, go after the folks who are vanishing my posts because they don't like the content.

              'Dhimmitude' is a state of mind.

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                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                find out who this guy's ISP is and report him for abuse

                Why would his ISP care if he is bothering people on CP? :confused:


                CleaKO

                "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
                "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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                Russell Morris
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                Many ISPs have "no abuse" clauses as part of their service contract with an individual. Typically, what constitutes "abuse" is determined by the ISP. Complaints from a large, well-established site like CodeProject, along with supporting evidence, could at least get the kid a stern warning.

                "I hope he can see this, because I'm doing it as hard as I can" - Ignignot

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  That's what Ilion wants

                  Actually it isn't. What he wants is to be able to post his opinions and have them stay in view and not be voted as abusive. Whether or not his posts are abusive, spam, or even vaguely appropriate is another thing. I can block him easily but I'd prefer to listen to his side first.

                  cheers, Chris Maunder

                  CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                  Red Stateler
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                  Chris Maunder wrote:

                  Actually it isn't. What he wants is to be able to post his opinions and have them stay in view and not be voted as abusive. Whether or not his posts are abusive, spam, or even vaguely appropriate is another thing.

                  My understanding was that people were ignoring him, so he repeatedly started posting the same thing and THEN they were marked as spam/abuse.

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    That's what Ilion wants

                    Actually it isn't. What he wants is to be able to post his opinions and have them stay in view and not be voted as abusive. Whether or not his posts are abusive, spam, or even vaguely appropriate is another thing. I can block him easily but I'd prefer to listen to his side first.

                    cheers, Chris Maunder

                    CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                    Ilion
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                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                    but I'd prefer to listen to his side first.

                    You may notice that it was four specific posts I kept reposting: 1) The "definition" of what the Soapbox is, along with its "rules" 2) A mock apology that I had apparently misunderstood what I'd just posted 3) A link to a thread (from Oct or so of last year) at Internet Infidels, and minor commentary on the reasons I found that thread interesting 4) A response to A**** originally made last night in a long "vanished" thread, having to do with my assessment of what my good friends here have been doing to my posts for the past two or so days. Good luck reading this before the "grown-ups" vanish it.

                    'Dhimmitude' is a state of mind.

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      The soapbox is for posts that aren't appropriate elsewhere. It is not a place to start flame wars, troll, push agendas or abuse the community. It's a forum like any other forum with the same rules of responsibility and civility. This is pathetic and honestly, I'm ready to just close it up.

                      cheers, Chris Maunder

                      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                      proftc
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                      I don't think closing the board would be a solution. Odds are he would just start up in another one of the boards, like the Lounge or the General Discussions. Then if you closed those, he'd just spam the programming boards with it all. Until now, while some people have gotten a bit... overzealous in their discussions, it hasn't been a problem. One person shouldn't be able to ruin something like this.

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                        Kill it. Programmer productivity worldwide would soar. :)

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                        Ilion
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                        Rob Caldecott wrote:

                        Programmer productivity worldwide would soar.

                        ya think? ;)

                        'Dhimmitude' is a state of mind.

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                        • M Marcus J Smith

                          Who's that?


                          CleaKO

                          "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
                          "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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                          Ilion
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                          Me, of course. And no one.

                          'Dhimmitude' is a state of mind.

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                            Me, of course. And no one.

                            'Dhimmitude' is a state of mind.

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                            Marcus J Smith
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                            Ilíon wrote:

                            Me, of course. And no one.

                            Why is that known, you dont have that on your profile.


                            CleaKO

                            "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
                            "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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                              Ilíon wrote:

                              Me, of course. And no one.

                              Why is that known, you dont have that on your profile.


                              CleaKO

                              "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy
                              "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)

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                              Ilion
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                              CleaKO wrote:

                              Why is that known, you dont have that on your profile.

                              That would be a question to address to Mr Craig, now wouldn't it? But, it's not exactly as though I've made a secret of my identity. After all, being no one in particular, I can't really imagine that a total stranger in who-knows-where would have a pressing desire to know my name or city. I assure you, I'm not trying to find out where Mr Craig lives, or if he even is 'Tim Craig.' But, since he seems so interested in me, let's see if he can pin-point my location on a map.

                              'Dhimmitude' is a state of mind.

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                              • C Chris Maunder

                                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                That's what Ilion wants

                                Actually it isn't. What he wants is to be able to post his opinions and have them stay in view and not be voted as abusive. Whether or not his posts are abusive, spam, or even vaguely appropriate is another thing. I can block him easily but I'd prefer to listen to his side first.

                                cheers, Chris Maunder

                                CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                Chris Maunder wrote:

                                What he wants is to be able to post his opinions and have them stay in view and not be voted as abusive.

                                Well, unless you're gonna kill the abuse feature and give him special "sticky post" status, he's not gonna get his way. FWIW, I watch this forum pretty closely, and i'm pretty sure not a single one of his threads was deleted until he started re-posting them after they'd been pushed off the first page. And that was after about a week of watching him cut quotes from threads that had been played out and start new threads composed of his "answers" to these quotes. Seeing someone stroke their ego by pasting together fake arguments isn't new, or interesting, or even that much of a problem in and of itself - i've seen this sort of thing fairly often on USENET. The difference here is, we don't have our own personal kill-files, so it's hard to ignore such noise. Clicking Abuse isn't really a good substitute, but it's that or leave. And i had a good sub-thread on pies and global warming going, so leaving was out...

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                                  Chris Maunder wrote:

                                  but I'd prefer to listen to his side first.

                                  You may notice that it was four specific posts I kept reposting: 1) The "definition" of what the Soapbox is, along with its "rules" 2) A mock apology that I had apparently misunderstood what I'd just posted 3) A link to a thread (from Oct or so of last year) at Internet Infidels, and minor commentary on the reasons I found that thread interesting 4) A response to A**** originally made last night in a long "vanished" thread, having to do with my assessment of what my good friends here have been doing to my posts for the past two or so days. Good luck reading this before the "grown-ups" vanish it.

                                  'Dhimmitude' is a state of mind.

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                                  Chris Maunder
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                                  Yes, it was hard not to notice them. I read 1 and 2 them all and I still had no idea of what your point was. Please - just let it go.

                                  cheers, Chris Maunder

                                  CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                                    but I'd prefer to listen to his side first.

                                    You may notice that it was four specific posts I kept reposting: 1) The "definition" of what the Soapbox is, along with its "rules" 2) A mock apology that I had apparently misunderstood what I'd just posted 3) A link to a thread (from Oct or so of last year) at Internet Infidels, and minor commentary on the reasons I found that thread interesting 4) A response to A**** originally made last night in a long "vanished" thread, having to do with my assessment of what my good friends here have been doing to my posts for the past two or so days. Good luck reading this before the "grown-ups" vanish it.

                                    'Dhimmitude' is a state of mind.

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                                    Being a dick doesn't make up for it though, so stop being a dick.

                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                    • C Chris Maunder

                                      The soapbox is for posts that aren't appropriate elsewhere. It is not a place to start flame wars, troll, push agendas or abuse the community. It's a forum like any other forum with the same rules of responsibility and civility. This is pathetic and honestly, I'm ready to just close it up.

                                      cheers, Chris Maunder

                                      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                      Finally!!! Please ban the blatant trolls too, if they start again.

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                                        Yes, it was hard not to notice them. I read 1 and 2 them all and I still had no idea of what your point was. Please - just let it go.

                                        cheers, Chris Maunder

                                        CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                        Ilion
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                                        Chris Maunder wrote:

                                        Please - just let it go.

                                        Certainly. But, do I have your permission to attempt to discuss things here?

                                        'Dhimmitude' is a state of mind.

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                                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                                          What he wants is to be able to post his opinions and have them stay in view and not be voted as abusive.

                                          Well, unless you're gonna kill the abuse feature and give him special "sticky post" status, he's not gonna get his way. FWIW, I watch this forum pretty closely, and i'm pretty sure not a single one of his threads was deleted until he started re-posting them after they'd been pushed off the first page. And that was after about a week of watching him cut quotes from threads that had been played out and start new threads composed of his "answers" to these quotes. Seeing someone stroke their ego by pasting together fake arguments isn't new, or interesting, or even that much of a problem in and of itself - i've seen this sort of thing fairly often on USENET. The difference here is, we don't have our own personal kill-files, so it's hard to ignore such noise. Clicking Abuse isn't really a good substitute, but it's that or leave. And i had a good sub-thread on pies and global warming going, so leaving was out...

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                                          Shog9 wrote:

                                          FWIW, I watch this forum pretty closely, and i'm pretty sure not a single one of his threads was deleted until he started re-posting them after they'd been pushed off the first page.

                                          That's not true. I started reposting only after they started vanishing. At first, sometime over the weekend, it was sporadic, and I let it go. Then, on Sunday, they got their act together and started vanishing just about everything.

                                          'Dhimmitude' is a state of mind.

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