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  • C Chris Maunder

    ...is as slow as a wet week. I'm bored.

    cheers, Chris Maunder

    CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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    Stuart Dootson
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    I use Visual Assist[^] for all my refactoring needs - mainly 'cause I do C++ on VS2003, but it'll do C# and (I think) VB as well, on VS6, 2003 and 2005. Most productive £70 I've ever spent on software, IMO.

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    • C Chris Maunder

      ...is as slow as a wet week. I'm bored.

      cheers, Chris Maunder

      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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      Daniel Turini
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      Use Resharper: it's better and smarter. And the refactoring is damn fast! (but your whole IDE will be slower)

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      • D David Stone

        Yeah. Eclipse has way more awesome refactoring tools than VS2005 does. I'm always shocked when I go back to VS (for work) from Eclipse (for school) and find that I have to manually refactor stuff.

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        Jon W
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        Heard of Refactor from devexpress? http://www.devexpress.com/Products/NET/IDETools/Refactor/ [Free versions] Refactor!™ for Visual Basic® .NET 2005 http://www.devexpress.com/Products/NET/IDETools/VBRefactor/ Refactor!™ for ASP.NET http://www.devexpress.com/Products/NET/IDETools/RefactorASP/ Refactor!™ for C++ http://www.devexpress.com/Products/NET/IDETools/RefactorCPP/

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        • J Jon W

          Heard of Refactor from devexpress? http://www.devexpress.com/Products/NET/IDETools/Refactor/ [Free versions] Refactor!™ for Visual Basic® .NET 2005 http://www.devexpress.com/Products/NET/IDETools/VBRefactor/ Refactor!™ for ASP.NET http://www.devexpress.com/Products/NET/IDETools/RefactorASP/ Refactor!™ for C++ http://www.devexpress.com/Products/NET/IDETools/RefactorCPP/

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          Andrew Drummond
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          yep, it seems to do a good impression of Intellisense in causing my VS SP1 to go very busy for significant periods of time. I tried working outside my clearcase integration but still slow. Shame, might try emailing them about it. Otherwise I use Whoile Tomato for the few refactorings it does. May it conflicts with Whole Tomato? Andrew

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          • S Super Lloyd

            I guess you mean "C++ refactoring", ain't you? It's all good in! C# :-D

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            Arjan Keene
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            Try Resharper

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            • C Chris Maunder

              ...is as slow as a wet week. I'm bored.

              cheers, Chris Maunder

              CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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              MattPenner
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              I used refactorings all the time in IntelliJ (Java IDE from JetBrains). It was smooth, fast, and had a ton of great refactorings. They do have a C# refactoring package - ReSharper (http://www.jetbrains.com/resharper/index.html[^]). Unfortunately my current employer is VB only so I can't use it. Has anyone tried ReSharper from JetBrains? Matt

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              • C Christian Graus

                Super Lloyd wrote:

                No, I mean I could rename a method, property or even a namespace in a few seconds

                It depends entirely on the size of your project.

                Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                Jasmine2501
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                I have an extremely large project, a C# Windows application, and almost anything I do that involves refactoring, renaming, or whatever, takes 1.5 to 2 minutes to complete. That's not very long compared to older tools that used to take all night to do things like that, but it's that length of time which is too short to switch to something else, but still quite a long time to stare at the screen, so it hurts your productivity.

                "Quality Software since 1983!"
                http://www.smoothjazzy.com/ - see the "Programming" section for freeware tools and articles.

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                • H Hsiang Tai Chien

                  That's why the 3rd party add-on vendors can make a living....

                  Think Different, Do Smarter, Work for Joy!!

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                  JMOdom
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                  Who's Joy? ;P

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                  • M MattPenner

                    I used refactorings all the time in IntelliJ (Java IDE from JetBrains). It was smooth, fast, and had a ton of great refactorings. They do have a C# refactoring package - ReSharper (http://www.jetbrains.com/resharper/index.html[^]). Unfortunately my current employer is VB only so I can't use it. Has anyone tried ReSharper from JetBrains? Matt

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                    JMOdom
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                    Please excuse my ignorance as I'm new to coding. Just what is Refactoring and why do you do it? Thanks. :doh:

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                    • J JMOdom

                      Who's Joy? ;P

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                      Hsiang Tai Chien
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                      Well, you know who he is. :)

                      "Think Different, Do Smarter, Work for Joy!!"

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                      • J JMOdom

                        Please excuse my ignorance as I'm new to coding. Just what is Refactoring and why do you do it? Thanks. :doh:

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                        Hsiang Tai Chien
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                        Check Wikipedia: Code Refactoring and What is Refactoring? Also the book "Refactoring". ----

                        "Think Different, Do Smarter, Work for Joy!!"

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                        • M MattPenner

                          I used refactorings all the time in IntelliJ (Java IDE from JetBrains). It was smooth, fast, and had a ton of great refactorings. They do have a C# refactoring package - ReSharper (http://www.jetbrains.com/resharper/index.html[^]). Unfortunately my current employer is VB only so I can't use it. Has anyone tried ReSharper from JetBrains? Matt

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                          Kevin McFarlane
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                          MattPenner wrote:

                          Unfortunately my current employer is VB only so I can't use it.

                          VB .NET? then use Dev Express's free Refactor! for VB tool (only free for VB 2005 though). I too am using VB in my current contract. I started with the free Refactor! Then I bought Refactor! Pro. I've also used Resharper a bit in the past. Both products are good, though not perfect. However, both are way better than VS's built-in refactoring, despite some performance problems. It also appears that Eclipse's refactoring is better than anything on offer for VS at the moment. One of the posters here says that, as does one of my colleagues who's in Java mode at the moment.

                          Kevin

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                          • C Chris Maunder

                            ...is as slow as a wet week. I'm bored.

                            cheers, Chris Maunder

                            CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                            Markus Gallagher
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                            I use Resharper from Jetbrains... starting up VS is a little slower, however the refactorings are super speedy - does a great job caching and giving u edit time compilation checking.

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                            • A Anton Afanasyev

                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              The average refactoring takes slightly longer than a full build.

                              Now that you mention that, I think I know how they implemented refactoring...they compile it all, then let the runtime optimize it, then decompile it all. Yeah....:)


                              :badger:

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                              Jason19870211zjx
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                              what do u say???

                              .....

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