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I saw "Fast Food Nation" yesterday

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  • L Le centriste

    Not everybody that agree with what is in a movie is brainwashed. You only say that to discredit the movie without any basic argument for saying so.

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    Christian Graus
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    MP (2) wrote:

    Not everybody that agree with what is in a movie is brainwashed.

    True. But, it's rare for any movie to provide an unbiased view. Anyone who agrees with what a movie tells them 100%, with no caveats, is probaby brainwashed.

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    You only say that to discredit the movie without any basic argument for saying so.

    To be honest, I am sure I would agree with much of what is in the movie in question. I am making a broader comment about people accepting 100% any media source that presents a point of view they want to buy in to.

    Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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      Red Stateler wrote:

      So then basically you're saying you blindly accept their claims...

      Yes Red, blindly. Or, No Red, merely pointing out the obvious recurring flaw in your messages: logic.

      Red Stateler wrote:

      Why don't you just check for yourself?

      Because it was a shit film that was boring after the first twenty minutes. I had to waste my time sitting through the DVD extras, why in the world would I waste more of my time with it?


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      David Wulff wrote:

      Yes Red, blindly. Or, No Red, merely pointing out the obvious recurring flaw in your messages: logic.

      So if he ate, say, a pound of sugar/day, it would be "illogical" to look at McDonalds' nutrition information to see how exactly one could eat a pound of sugar every day for a month? Hmmmmmmm.... OK.

      David Wulff wrote:

      Because it was a sh*t film that was boring after the first twenty minutes. I had to waste my time sitting through the DVD extras, why in the world would I waste more of my time with it?

      DVDs have scene selection, you know.

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      • L Le centriste

        I liked the movie. I think it is a good depiction of what America has become.

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        I think there are two things we need to remember: (I haven't seen the movie so I am not going to directly comment about it) 1. Too much of ANYTHING is bad whether it be grease, sugar, alcohol, crack...you get the idea. 2. People react to food differently. We all know (and hate) those people who can eat anything, don't gain weight and their blood panels are fine. I know if I barely look at high fructose corn syrup I might as well get out the old pants that are now too large. So one person on a McD's diet may gain a ton of weight and another may barely notice a difference. All in all I think my first point is the 'duh' factor that people need to remember.

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          MP (2) wrote:

          Not everybody that agree with what is in a movie is brainwashed.

          True. But, it's rare for any movie to provide an unbiased view. Anyone who agrees with what a movie tells them 100%, with no caveats, is probaby brainwashed.

          MP (2) wrote:

          You only say that to discredit the movie without any basic argument for saying so.

          To be honest, I am sure I would agree with much of what is in the movie in question. I am making a broader comment about people accepting 100% any media source that presents a point of view they want to buy in to.

          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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          Le centriste
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          Your initial reply did not reveal so much insight on the subject.

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          • L Le centriste

            Your initial reply did not reveal so much insight on the subject.

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            Christian Graus
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            Fair enough - I am replying at work, during build times :-)

            Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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            • L leckey 0

              Diego Moita wrote:

              This makes sense in a wild, Darwinian struggle for survival.

              :doh: Did you have to bring evolution into this? What will the extreme-right do now? :badger:

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              leckey wrote:

              Did you have to bring evolution into this? What will the extreme-right do now?

              :laugh: Ooops...:-O


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              • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                Regardless of what this journalist says, Subway subs rock. :cool: McGrease doesn't. :)

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                Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                Subway subs rock

                Subway is the McDonald's of subs. Quiznoes is the absolute best ;P They are expensive though.

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                • L Le centriste

                  The one to blame here is not Bush, it is the corporate culture that you have become. Anything for profit, whatever it takes. Bush is just a by-product of corporate America.

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                  MP (2) wrote:

                  Anything for profit, whatever it takes.

                  I don't understand what your problem is with fast food. If I want to drive up to a resturunt and get a couple burgers then that is my business. :rolleyes:

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                    I think there are two things we need to remember: (I haven't seen the movie so I am not going to directly comment about it) 1. Too much of ANYTHING is bad whether it be grease, sugar, alcohol, crack...you get the idea. 2. People react to food differently. We all know (and hate) those people who can eat anything, don't gain weight and their blood panels are fine. I know if I barely look at high fructose corn syrup I might as well get out the old pants that are now too large. So one person on a McD's diet may gain a ton of weight and another may barely notice a difference. All in all I think my first point is the 'duh' factor that people need to remember.

                    _________________________________________ You can't fix stupid, but you can medicate crazy.

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                    leckey wrote:

                    We all know (and hate) those people who can eat anything, don't gain weight and their blood panels are fine.

                    I don't hate those people... someone needs to eat all this pastry i'm baking...

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                      MP (2) wrote:

                      Anything for profit, whatever it takes.

                      I don't understand what your problem is with fast food. If I want to drive up to a resturunt and get a couple burgers then that is my business. :rolleyes:

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                      Le centriste
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                      In fact, as far as I am concerned, you may have as much as you can. Anyway, you are missing the point.

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                        leckey wrote:

                        We all know (and hate) those people who can eat anything, don't gain weight and their blood panels are fine.

                        I don't hate those people... someone needs to eat all this pastry i'm baking...

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                        What are you cooking now?

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                          David Wulff wrote:

                          Yes Red, blindly. Or, No Red, merely pointing out the obvious recurring flaw in your messages: logic.

                          So if he ate, say, a pound of sugar/day, it would be "illogical" to look at McDonalds' nutrition information to see how exactly one could eat a pound of sugar every day for a month? Hmmmmmmm.... OK.

                          David Wulff wrote:

                          Because it was a sh*t film that was boring after the first twenty minutes. I had to waste my time sitting through the DVD extras, why in the world would I waste more of my time with it?

                          DVDs have scene selection, you know.

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                          Red Stateler wrote:

                          So if he ate, say, a pound of sugar/day, it would be "illogical" to look at McDonalds' nutrition information to see how exactly one could eat a pound of sugar every day for a month?

                          The point here is that McDonalds revised their products in light of the movie. I assumed that would be enough, but it seems I have to spell it out for you: THIS MEANS THAT THE NUTRITION STATS ARE NO LONGER VALID AFTER THE FILM. And that is a good thing BTW, about the only good thing about the film... I have no doubt that the man's claims where spiced up for the film -- oh the shock of it!! -- but your argument to prove that is at best just plain absurd. Salt and sugar levels are lower after than before... coincidence?


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                            I think there are two things we need to remember: (I haven't seen the movie so I am not going to directly comment about it) 1. Too much of ANYTHING is bad whether it be grease, sugar, alcohol, crack...you get the idea. 2. People react to food differently. We all know (and hate) those people who can eat anything, don't gain weight and their blood panels are fine. I know if I barely look at high fructose corn syrup I might as well get out the old pants that are now too large. So one person on a McD's diet may gain a ton of weight and another may barely notice a difference. All in all I think my first point is the 'duh' factor that people need to remember.

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                            Le centriste
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                            leckey wrote:

                            1. Too much of ANYTHING is bad whether it be grease, sugar, alcohol, crack...you get the idea.

                            Especially if it contains E.Coli. An excerpt about the movie from allmovie.com:

                            When the higher-ups at Mickey's corporate offices learn that the frozen meat patties used to make the wildly popular burger have somehow been tainted with contaminated meat, they send marketing executive Don Henderson (Kinnear) on an urgent mission to ensure quality control and find out precisely how their product became compromised. It's a long way from the Southern California boardroom to the immigrant slaughterhouses, though, and the further Henderson works his way through the bustling feedlots and toward the ubiquitous restaurant sites that have become a staple of modern culture, the more he begins to realize just how dangerous convenience can become when it leads to blissfully ignorant complacency.

                            But, you know, it is just a movie...

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                              What are you cooking now?

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                              Getting ready to start a batch of bread. Did a couple batches of banana bran muffins yesterday, passed about half of 'em out to friends. Also gave away a tea ring to a tiny Cuban who was complaining that a lack of fattening food was causing her breasts to shrink. Good to see the whole "skin & bones" culture hasn't taken over. :)

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                                MP (2) wrote:

                                Not everybody that agree with what is in a movie is brainwashed.

                                True. But, it's rare for any movie to provide an unbiased view. Anyone who agrees with what a movie tells them 100%, with no caveats, is probaby brainwashed.

                                MP (2) wrote:

                                You only say that to discredit the movie without any basic argument for saying so.

                                To be honest, I am sure I would agree with much of what is in the movie in question. I am making a broader comment about people accepting 100% any media source that presents a point of view they want to buy in to.

                                Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                To be honest, I am sure I would agree with much of what is in the movie in question. I am making a broader comment about people accepting 100% any media source that presents a point of view they want to buy in to.

                                See, that's what makes me laugh. A good many of us have known about these "dark secrets" for years - either first-hand, or from the numerous reports in everything from Gov't health publications and cooking magazines... to weekly "news" rags. But of course, now it's a conspiracy or some such. That said, it looks like a wonderfully entertaining movie (as opposed to the preachy smugness of "supersize me"). I haven't rented anything in a good while, but i might just check this out.

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                                  In fact, as far as I am concerned, you may have as much as you can. Anyway, you are missing the point.

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                                  MP (2) wrote:

                                  Anyway, you are missing the point.

                                  What is the point?

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                                    MP (2) wrote:

                                    Anyway, you are missing the point.

                                    What is the point?

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                                    Le centriste
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                                    Did you see the movie? If not, just watch it.

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                                    • L Le centriste

                                      Did you see the movie? If not, just watch it.

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                                      MP (2) wrote:

                                      Did you see the movie? If not, just watch it.

                                      No, I don't want to watch it.

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                                        MP (2) wrote:

                                        Did you see the movie? If not, just watch it.

                                        No, I don't want to watch it.

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                                        Probably because you are afraid.

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                                        • L Le centriste

                                          Probably because you are afraid.

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                                          MP (2) wrote:

                                          Probably because you are afraid.

                                          It is not that I am afraid, it is because I don't want to waste my money on a video. Videos are to be watched once or twice and then it collects dust. It is a total waste.

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