I saw "Fast Food Nation" yesterday
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Diego Moita wrote:
This makes sense in a wild, Darwinian struggle for survival.
:doh: Did you have to bring evolution into this? What will the extreme-right do now? :badger:
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leckey wrote:
Did you have to bring evolution into this? What will the extreme-right do now?
:laugh: Ooops...:-O
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The one to blame here is not Bush, it is the corporate culture that you have become. Anything for profit, whatever it takes. Bush is just a by-product of corporate America.
MP (2) wrote:
Anything for profit, whatever it takes.
I don't understand what your problem is with fast food. If I want to drive up to a resturunt and get a couple burgers then that is my business. :rolleyes:
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I think there are two things we need to remember: (I haven't seen the movie so I am not going to directly comment about it) 1. Too much of ANYTHING is bad whether it be grease, sugar, alcohol, crack...you get the idea. 2. People react to food differently. We all know (and hate) those people who can eat anything, don't gain weight and their blood panels are fine. I know if I barely look at high fructose corn syrup I might as well get out the old pants that are now too large. So one person on a McD's diet may gain a ton of weight and another may barely notice a difference. All in all I think my first point is the 'duh' factor that people need to remember.
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leckey wrote:
We all know (and hate) those people who can eat anything, don't gain weight and their blood panels are fine.
I don't hate those people... someone needs to eat all this pastry i'm baking...
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MP (2) wrote:
Anything for profit, whatever it takes.
I don't understand what your problem is with fast food. If I want to drive up to a resturunt and get a couple burgers then that is my business. :rolleyes:
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In fact, as far as I am concerned, you may have as much as you can. Anyway, you are missing the point.
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leckey wrote:
We all know (and hate) those people who can eat anything, don't gain weight and their blood panels are fine.
I don't hate those people... someone needs to eat all this pastry i'm baking...
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David Wulff wrote:
Yes Red, blindly. Or, No Red, merely pointing out the obvious recurring flaw in your messages: logic.
So if he ate, say, a pound of sugar/day, it would be "illogical" to look at McDonalds' nutrition information to see how exactly one could eat a pound of sugar every day for a month? Hmmmmmmm.... OK.
David Wulff wrote:
Because it was a sh*t film that was boring after the first twenty minutes. I had to waste my time sitting through the DVD extras, why in the world would I waste more of my time with it?
DVDs have scene selection, you know.
Red Stateler wrote:
So if he ate, say, a pound of sugar/day, it would be "illogical" to look at McDonalds' nutrition information to see how exactly one could eat a pound of sugar every day for a month?
The point here is that McDonalds revised their products in light of the movie. I assumed that would be enough, but it seems I have to spell it out for you: THIS MEANS THAT THE NUTRITION STATS ARE NO LONGER VALID AFTER THE FILM. And that is a good thing BTW, about the only good thing about the film... I have no doubt that the man's claims where spiced up for the film -- oh the shock of it!! -- but your argument to prove that is at best just plain absurd. Salt and sugar levels are lower after than before... coincidence?
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I think there are two things we need to remember: (I haven't seen the movie so I am not going to directly comment about it) 1. Too much of ANYTHING is bad whether it be grease, sugar, alcohol, crack...you get the idea. 2. People react to food differently. We all know (and hate) those people who can eat anything, don't gain weight and their blood panels are fine. I know if I barely look at high fructose corn syrup I might as well get out the old pants that are now too large. So one person on a McD's diet may gain a ton of weight and another may barely notice a difference. All in all I think my first point is the 'duh' factor that people need to remember.
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leckey wrote:
1. Too much of ANYTHING is bad whether it be grease, sugar, alcohol, crack...you get the idea.
Especially if it contains E.Coli. An excerpt about the movie from allmovie.com:
When the higher-ups at Mickey's corporate offices learn that the frozen meat patties used to make the wildly popular burger have somehow been tainted with contaminated meat, they send marketing executive Don Henderson (Kinnear) on an urgent mission to ensure quality control and find out precisely how their product became compromised. It's a long way from the Southern California boardroom to the immigrant slaughterhouses, though, and the further Henderson works his way through the bustling feedlots and toward the ubiquitous restaurant sites that have become a staple of modern culture, the more he begins to realize just how dangerous convenience can become when it leads to blissfully ignorant complacency.
But, you know, it is just a movie...
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What are you cooking now?
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Getting ready to start a batch of bread. Did a couple batches of banana bran muffins yesterday, passed about half of 'em out to friends. Also gave away a tea ring to a tiny Cuban who was complaining that a lack of fattening food was causing her breasts to shrink. Good to see the whole "skin & bones" culture hasn't taken over. :)
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MP (2) wrote:
Not everybody that agree with what is in a movie is brainwashed.
True. But, it's rare for any movie to provide an unbiased view. Anyone who agrees with what a movie tells them 100%, with no caveats, is probaby brainwashed.
MP (2) wrote:
You only say that to discredit the movie without any basic argument for saying so.
To be honest, I am sure I would agree with much of what is in the movie in question. I am making a broader comment about people accepting 100% any media source that presents a point of view they want to buy in to.
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Christian Graus wrote:
To be honest, I am sure I would agree with much of what is in the movie in question. I am making a broader comment about people accepting 100% any media source that presents a point of view they want to buy in to.
See, that's what makes me laugh. A good many of us have known about these "dark secrets" for years - either first-hand, or from the numerous reports in everything from Gov't health publications and cooking magazines... to weekly "news" rags. But of course, now it's a conspiracy or some such. That said, it looks like a wonderfully entertaining movie (as opposed to the preachy smugness of "supersize me"). I haven't rented anything in a good while, but i might just check this out.
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In fact, as far as I am concerned, you may have as much as you can. Anyway, you are missing the point.
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MP (2) wrote:
Anyway, you are missing the point.
What is the point?
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Did you see the movie? If not, just watch it.
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Did you see the movie? If not, just watch it.
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MP (2) wrote:
Did you see the movie? If not, just watch it.
No, I don't want to watch it.
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Probably because you are afraid.
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Probably because you are afraid.
MP (2) wrote:
Probably because you are afraid.
It is not that I am afraid, it is because I don't want to waste my money on a video. Videos are to be watched once or twice and then it collects dust. It is a total waste.
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leckey wrote:
1. Too much of ANYTHING is bad whether it be grease, sugar, alcohol, crack...you get the idea.
Especially if it contains E.Coli. An excerpt about the movie from allmovie.com:
When the higher-ups at Mickey's corporate offices learn that the frozen meat patties used to make the wildly popular burger have somehow been tainted with contaminated meat, they send marketing executive Don Henderson (Kinnear) on an urgent mission to ensure quality control and find out precisely how their product became compromised. It's a long way from the Southern California boardroom to the immigrant slaughterhouses, though, and the further Henderson works his way through the bustling feedlots and toward the ubiquitous restaurant sites that have become a staple of modern culture, the more he begins to realize just how dangerous convenience can become when it leads to blissfully ignorant complacency.
But, you know, it is just a movie...
We learned in college that McD's uses the sclera of the cow eye to help bind the patty together. That kind of turned me off from fast food period. Oh, and Arby's uses the lowest quality meat that is still acceptable to sell/consume. Another reason to eat organic chicken!
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Getting ready to start a batch of bread. Did a couple batches of banana bran muffins yesterday, passed about half of 'em out to friends. Also gave away a tea ring to a tiny Cuban who was complaining that a lack of fattening food was causing her breasts to shrink. Good to see the whole "skin & bones" culture hasn't taken over. :)
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It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.
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I should give you a random list of what is in my fridge/pantry and see what you come up with...
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Red Stateler wrote:
So if he ate, say, a pound of sugar/day, it would be "illogical" to look at McDonalds' nutrition information to see how exactly one could eat a pound of sugar every day for a month?
The point here is that McDonalds revised their products in light of the movie. I assumed that would be enough, but it seems I have to spell it out for you: THIS MEANS THAT THE NUTRITION STATS ARE NO LONGER VALID AFTER THE FILM. And that is a good thing BTW, about the only good thing about the film... I have no doubt that the man's claims where spiced up for the film -- oh the shock of it!! -- but your argument to prove that is at best just plain absurd. Salt and sugar levels are lower after than before... coincidence?
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I'm so gangsta I eat cereal without the milkThat's completely wrong and based on arbitrary and "illogical" assumptions. McDonald's "revised" its menu by adding new items to it (like those lame salads that nobody actually buys) in order to offer healthier "alternatives", which didn't become available until well after I saw the movie. They didn't change the ingredients of the classic big macs and milk shakes. Plus, if the food was revised to be healthier and had a lower sugar content, he would have had to eat EVEN MORE to consume the amount of sugar he claimed he consumed (making your thinking completely ass-backwards). But you're obviously a dogmatic automaton, so whatever.
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That's completely wrong and based on arbitrary and "illogical" assumptions. McDonald's "revised" its menu by adding new items to it (like those lame salads that nobody actually buys) in order to offer healthier "alternatives", which didn't become available until well after I saw the movie. They didn't change the ingredients of the classic big macs and milk shakes. Plus, if the food was revised to be healthier and had a lower sugar content, he would have had to eat EVEN MORE to consume the amount of sugar he claimed he consumed (making your thinking completely ass-backwards). But you're obviously a dogmatic automaton, so whatever.
So when McDonalds halved the salt levels in their fries, that was by adding salad dressing? :laugh: :laugh:
Red Stateler wrote:
Plus, if the food was revised to be healthier and had a lower sugar content, he would have had to eat EVEN MORE to consume the amount of sugar he claimed he consumed (making your thinking completely ass-backwards)
Oh man, and I thought my last post was pretty obvious. Amazing. Note that the ordering here is significant: 1 - Man with no money makes film to cash in on the salt scare (this was before global warming). 2 - McDonalds get lots of bad press all over the world. Any press is good press and shareholders see an opportunity to attract more customers. 3 - McDonalds lower salt levels in 'added' products and release a big PR release. "We listen! We care!" they cry. "Look at our new salads!" 4 - Espeir sees said film and checks McDonalds web site for leftist conspiracy. "Oh my Bush, they are out to get me!" You can count, right? Four comes after three, which comes after two which comes after one. Therefore: THIS MEANS THAT THE NUTRITION STATS [DURING THE FILM] ARE NO LONGER VALID AFTER THE FILM Talk about arse-backwards. :doh: Salads were introduced before that crappy film was even made, let alone aired. They've been an option on the 'menus' here since I was in college seven years ago. You could even get a fruit salad with whole processed grapes to go with your Big Mac Meal. The only new thing about them has been to split them out and give them 'healthy' names so people don't feel bad while eating their lives away.
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