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  • P Phil Harding

    With leckeys insomnia[^] enervation in mind, the nearly 5 pages of responses, and my own bouts of occasional insomnia, I'm thinking is this a malady prevalent in software developers?


    - "I'm not lying, I'm just writing fiction with my mouth"

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    Maximilien
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    Phil Hardingis this a malady prevalent in software developers?

    nope, I sleep always.


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    • P Phil Harding

      With leckeys insomnia[^] enervation in mind, the nearly 5 pages of responses, and my own bouts of occasional insomnia, I'm thinking is this a malady prevalent in software developers?


      - "I'm not lying, I'm just writing fiction with my mouth"

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      NormDroid
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      Nope, never had the problem.

      .net is a box of never ending treasures, every day I get find another gem.

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      • P Phil Harding

        With leckeys insomnia[^] enervation in mind, the nearly 5 pages of responses, and my own bouts of occasional insomnia, I'm thinking is this a malady prevalent in software developers?


        - "I'm not lying, I'm just writing fiction with my mouth"

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        Steve S
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        Yep. I lie awake wondering how other UK contractors manage to avoid the 24 month rule on claiming expenses on travelling to site, which is going to bite me in September. I like them, they like me (obviously, since a 6 mo contract will be 2 yrs then), but I'm going to have to move on, or face a reduced income. Sigh.

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          Yep. I lie awake wondering how other UK contractors manage to avoid the 24 month rule on claiming expenses on travelling to site, which is going to bite me in September. I like them, they like me (obviously, since a 6 mo contract will be 2 yrs then), but I'm going to have to move on, or face a reduced income. Sigh.

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          NormDroid
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          Lifes so tought in the contracting world, arrh well it's either back to permie-ville or take a hit.

          .net is a box of never ending treasures, every day I get find another gem.

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          • P Phil Harding

            With leckeys insomnia[^] enervation in mind, the nearly 5 pages of responses, and my own bouts of occasional insomnia, I'm thinking is this a malady prevalent in software developers?


            - "I'm not lying, I'm just writing fiction with my mouth"

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            Marcus J Smith
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            No problem here.


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            • P Phil Harding

              With leckeys insomnia[^] enervation in mind, the nearly 5 pages of responses, and my own bouts of occasional insomnia, I'm thinking is this a malady prevalent in software developers?


              - "I'm not lying, I'm just writing fiction with my mouth"

              Phil Harding.
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              in my case: often, but look at it the bright side... besides the fact you're always tired, without energy, always in urgent need of (strong) coffee, the lack of the ability to concentrate and the frustration of hours lying awake in bed, you actually can enjoy life a little more each day ;P

              V. I found a living worth working for, but haven't found work worth living for.

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              • P Phil Harding

                With leckeys insomnia[^] enervation in mind, the nearly 5 pages of responses, and my own bouts of occasional insomnia, I'm thinking is this a malady prevalent in software developers?


                - "I'm not lying, I'm just writing fiction with my mouth"

                Phil Harding.
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                Lost User
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                A lot of us have trouble 'switching off'.

                The tigress is here :-D

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                • P Phil Harding

                  With leckeys insomnia[^] enervation in mind, the nearly 5 pages of responses, and my own bouts of occasional insomnia, I'm thinking is this a malady prevalent in software developers?


                  - "I'm not lying, I'm just writing fiction with my mouth"

                  Phil Harding.
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                  Chris McGlothen
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                  I sleep like a little baby rock when I hit the sack.:-D


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                  • P Phil Harding

                    With leckeys insomnia[^] enervation in mind, the nearly 5 pages of responses, and my own bouts of occasional insomnia, I'm thinking is this a malady prevalent in software developers?


                    - "I'm not lying, I'm just writing fiction with my mouth"

                    Phil Harding.
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                    eggsovereasy
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                    I have the other problem... I want to sleep 12 hours every night and I'm very tired the next day after getting only 7 or 8.

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                    • P Phil Harding

                      With leckeys insomnia[^] enervation in mind, the nearly 5 pages of responses, and my own bouts of occasional insomnia, I'm thinking is this a malady prevalent in software developers?


                      - "I'm not lying, I'm just writing fiction with my mouth"

                      Phil Harding.
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                      ednrgc
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                      I've been averaging 3.5 to 4.0 hours a night since being notified that our entire department is being outsourced. Friday is our last day. It's a hard pill to swallow.

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                        I've been averaging 3.5 to 4.0 hours a night since being notified that our entire department is being outsourced. Friday is our last day. It's a hard pill to swallow.

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                        ouch:sigh:

                        He was a snowflake, like other "unique" snowflakes, falling down, getting stepped on, and pushed aside to disappear.

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                        • P Phil Harding

                          With leckeys insomnia[^] enervation in mind, the nearly 5 pages of responses, and my own bouts of occasional insomnia, I'm thinking is this a malady prevalent in software developers?


                          - "I'm not lying, I'm just writing fiction with my mouth"

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                          Andy Brummer
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                          I definitely have problems sleeping unless I do some exercise to tire myself out. I've dropped my caffeine intake to 2 cups of tea in the morning down from a pot of coffee or two. While that helped, I still have a problem getting to sleep some nights. I think it affects everyone with a sedentary job.


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                          • P Phil Harding

                            With leckeys insomnia[^] enervation in mind, the nearly 5 pages of responses, and my own bouts of occasional insomnia, I'm thinking is this a malady prevalent in software developers?


                            - "I'm not lying, I'm just writing fiction with my mouth"

                            Phil Harding.
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                            Member 96
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                            Nope. I can and have slept through earthquakes.

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                              Nope. I can and have slept through earthquakes.

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                              Phil Harding
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                              John Cardinal wrote:

                              can and have slept through earthquakes

                              Sure you're not confusing sleep with unconsciousness, or advanced states of intoxication :-D


                              - "I'm not lying, I'm just writing fiction with my mouth"

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                              • N NormDroid

                                Lifes so tought in the contracting world, arrh well it's either back to permie-ville or take a hit.

                                .net is a box of never ending treasures, every day I get find another gem.

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                                Steve S
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                                Gee, I'm sorry. I should've pointed out I wasn't looking for sympathy, but identifying a possible cause :) Can't take a permie job. I have this habit of rolling my sleeves up and actually getting stuff done. Some people I've worked for regarded this as a benefit (and took advantage of it and me in the process), but some regarded it as threatening, and one interviewer actually admitted to me that he wasn't hiring me (even though I was the best candidate) because he was worried that I'd take over his job in a matter of months. Add to that my objections to the high levels of bureaucratic c**p in most companies over 10 people in size, my excessive demands for money and time off to spend it, and it becomes a non-starter. OTOH, it's probably time I moved on anyway...

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                                  Gee, I'm sorry. I should've pointed out I wasn't looking for sympathy, but identifying a possible cause :) Can't take a permie job. I have this habit of rolling my sleeves up and actually getting stuff done. Some people I've worked for regarded this as a benefit (and took advantage of it and me in the process), but some regarded it as threatening, and one interviewer actually admitted to me that he wasn't hiring me (even though I was the best candidate) because he was worried that I'd take over his job in a matter of months. Add to that my objections to the high levels of bureaucratic c**p in most companies over 10 people in size, my excessive demands for money and time off to spend it, and it becomes a non-starter. OTOH, it's probably time I moved on anyway...

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                                  NormDroid
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                                  Steve S wrote:

                                  I have this habit of rolling my sleeves up and actually getting stuff done

                                  And your saying Permies don't? I've been both a contractor and a permie for differing lenghs of time and which ever type of employment I'm in you want find me slacking, unlike some contractors I have worked with in the past.

                                  Steve S wrote:

                                  I've worked for regarded this as a benefit (and took advantage of it and me in the process),

                                  Don't all employers do this? :)

                                  Steve S wrote:

                                  but some regarded it as threatening, and one interviewer actually admitted to me that he wasn't hiring me (even though I was the best candidate) because he was worried that I'd take over his job in a matter of months.

                                  In one job I was actally taken on (as a Permie from Contracting) to replace a contractor needless to say the 'air' in the room was sour and the contractor whom I was replacing was very defensive was trying to put me down all the time, he felt very threaten but he knew the position he and I was in. I left in the end, the company politics sucked too much.

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                                  OTOH, it's probably time I moved on anyway...

                                  As the old saying goes "A change is as good as a rest". I also found some contracting work boring / the best jobs seem to go to favoured people with certain agencies.

                                  .net is a box of never ending treasures, every day I get find another gem.

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                                    Steve S wrote:

                                    I have this habit of rolling my sleeves up and actually getting stuff done

                                    And your saying Permies don't? I've been both a contractor and a permie for differing lenghs of time and which ever type of employment I'm in you want find me slacking, unlike some contractors I have worked with in the past.

                                    Steve S wrote:

                                    I've worked for regarded this as a benefit (and took advantage of it and me in the process),

                                    Don't all employers do this? :)

                                    Steve S wrote:

                                    but some regarded it as threatening, and one interviewer actually admitted to me that he wasn't hiring me (even though I was the best candidate) because he was worried that I'd take over his job in a matter of months.

                                    In one job I was actally taken on (as a Permie from Contracting) to replace a contractor needless to say the 'air' in the room was sour and the contractor whom I was replacing was very defensive was trying to put me down all the time, he felt very threaten but he knew the position he and I was in. I left in the end, the company politics sucked too much.

                                    Steve S wrote:

                                    OTOH, it's probably time I moved on anyway...

                                    As the old saying goes "A change is as good as a rest". I also found some contracting work boring / the best jobs seem to go to favoured people with certain agencies.

                                    .net is a box of never ending treasures, every day I get find another gem.

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                                    norm .net wrote:

                                    And your saying Permies don't?

                                    No, you're reading things into it I didn't write :) Some of the people I've worked with in the past have turned in a pretty mediocre job, or not exactly been 100% committed to what they were doing. Yes, some were contract staff, but predominantly they were permanent staff. There's a simple explanation for that - I have worked with many more permanent staff than contractors, so statistically that's what you'd expect! I have worked as a traditional contractor on and off for around 5 years of my 25 year 'career', and even as a contractor, I tend to work with existing staff. I don't have an us/them attitude, because at the end of it, we're all in the same office trying to achieve the same thing, which is shipping a working product. Where I am at the moment, the team I've working in have been more friendly and welcoming than one place where I was 'permanent' (but not for long!). The interviewer in question was worried that with my background, I wouldn't be happy just to be a developer, and would be looking at moving up to his job. I guess that having a background which includes being a director at a company that you don't own carries that risk, but in contracting, no one seems to care, as long as you can cut it where it counts. You're right, I think - a change would be as good as a rest, so I'm kind of looking forward to it, although it will be a shame since I'm enjoying this so much (but not enough to adversely affect my income!).

                                    Steve S Developer for hire

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