The suggestion I promised (with demo)
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I am proud to announce the completion of the prototype for a suggested enhancement to the message composition pages of the CP forums. With important input from Nish and much cursing at my buggy Internet connection, I bring you the Code Project Posting Toolbar. :trumpeting fanfare: :) I took a snapshot of the html produced by the reply function in the forums to demonstrate my suggestion. In practice it would be available on any page where message composition is performed. To my knowledge, the full functionality of the prototype is only available in IE4.0+ on win32 platforms. If Chris decides to implement this feature, I have a method in mind that should make it fully cross-browser. The code is just a bit more involved and I did not want to spend the time unless Chris was going to use it. ;) I did a modification to the InsertText() function that also affects the smiley insertion functionality. This causes it to insert the smiley at the cursor position in the textarea when run in IE4.0+. When used under other browsers it will still just append the smiley to the end of the textarea's content. I believe I can also make this fully cross-browser if Chris decides to use it. Consider this a sub-suggestion. :-D
Jason Jystad
Cito Technologies
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An object is simply a referenced thingy.
--Larry Wall (Programming Perl) -
I am proud to announce the completion of the prototype for a suggested enhancement to the message composition pages of the CP forums. With important input from Nish and much cursing at my buggy Internet connection, I bring you the Code Project Posting Toolbar. :trumpeting fanfare: :) I took a snapshot of the html produced by the reply function in the forums to demonstrate my suggestion. In practice it would be available on any page where message composition is performed. To my knowledge, the full functionality of the prototype is only available in IE4.0+ on win32 platforms. If Chris decides to implement this feature, I have a method in mind that should make it fully cross-browser. The code is just a bit more involved and I did not want to spend the time unless Chris was going to use it. ;) I did a modification to the InsertText() function that also affects the smiley insertion functionality. This causes it to insert the smiley at the cursor position in the textarea when run in IE4.0+. When used under other browsers it will still just append the smiley to the end of the textarea's content. I believe I can also make this fully cross-browser if Chris decides to use it. Consider this a sub-suggestion. :-D
Jason Jystad
Cito Technologies
Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)
An object is simply a referenced thingy.
--Larry Wall (Programming Perl)Wow! That looks *really* nice! One little improvement might be to presearve selection after using one of the formatting buttons; not sure how difficult that would be. :-D --------_**
From now on we can call C# and MC++ "The square wheel languages"
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-- Jack Handy, The Lounge
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I am proud to announce the completion of the prototype for a suggested enhancement to the message composition pages of the CP forums. With important input from Nish and much cursing at my buggy Internet connection, I bring you the Code Project Posting Toolbar. :trumpeting fanfare: :) I took a snapshot of the html produced by the reply function in the forums to demonstrate my suggestion. In practice it would be available on any page where message composition is performed. To my knowledge, the full functionality of the prototype is only available in IE4.0+ on win32 platforms. If Chris decides to implement this feature, I have a method in mind that should make it fully cross-browser. The code is just a bit more involved and I did not want to spend the time unless Chris was going to use it. ;) I did a modification to the InsertText() function that also affects the smiley insertion functionality. This causes it to insert the smiley at the cursor position in the textarea when run in IE4.0+. When used under other browsers it will still just append the smiley to the end of the textarea's content. I believe I can also make this fully cross-browser if Chris decides to use it. Consider this a sub-suggestion. :-D
Jason Jystad
Cito Technologies
Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)
An object is simply a referenced thingy.
--Larry Wall (Programming Perl)It looks great :), however is it possible when you click on a button (i.e Bold) for the caret to be automatically placed between the tags and not at the end? Good job! :) Best regards, Alexandru Savescu
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Wow! That looks *really* nice! One little improvement might be to presearve selection after using one of the formatting buttons; not sure how difficult that would be. :-D --------_**
From now on we can call C# and MC++ "The square wheel languages"
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-- Jack Handy, The Lounge
Yes, this is another feature that is on my list of to-dos. I am pretty sure I know how to do this, but I didn't want to spend the time until Chris gave it a yay or nay. :) If Chris decides to use it in one form or another, I have a list of features I will implement to make the whole system smoother than this prototype. I am glad you like it.
Jason Jystad
Cito Technologies
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It looks great :), however is it possible when you click on a button (i.e Bold) for the caret to be automatically placed between the tags and not at the end? Good job! :) Best regards, Alexandru Savescu
Good thought! I think I can see a way to do this, it will probably have to be Win32 IE specific due to some limitations in Netscape and Mac IE JavaScript. I will add this to my list of "Things to implement if Chris says he'll use it". :) ****Alexpro wrote: Good job! Thanks. :-O
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Thanks! I am really glad everybody seems to like it so much. I hope Chris goes for it! :crosses fingers: :)
Jason Jystad
Cito Technologies
Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)
An object is simply a referenced thingy.
--Larry Wall (Programming Perl) -
I am proud to announce the completion of the prototype for a suggested enhancement to the message composition pages of the CP forums. With important input from Nish and much cursing at my buggy Internet connection, I bring you the Code Project Posting Toolbar. :trumpeting fanfare: :) I took a snapshot of the html produced by the reply function in the forums to demonstrate my suggestion. In practice it would be available on any page where message composition is performed. To my knowledge, the full functionality of the prototype is only available in IE4.0+ on win32 platforms. If Chris decides to implement this feature, I have a method in mind that should make it fully cross-browser. The code is just a bit more involved and I did not want to spend the time unless Chris was going to use it. ;) I did a modification to the InsertText() function that also affects the smiley insertion functionality. This causes it to insert the smiley at the cursor position in the textarea when run in IE4.0+. When used under other browsers it will still just append the smiley to the end of the textarea's content. I believe I can also make this fully cross-browser if Chris decides to use it. Consider this a sub-suggestion. :-D
Jason Jystad
Cito Technologies
Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)
An object is simply a referenced thingy.
--Larry Wall (Programming Perl)I appreciate everybody posting their comments/suggestions for this. I want you all to know that I am keeping a list of the suggestions and I will do my best to implement them all if Chris says he will use this. As for the general comments, I am not keeping a list of them unless the suggest improvements. But rest assured that I am basking in them and reading them over and over again. :-D (Can we tell who doesn't get much positive feedback at work? :laugh: ) Thanks for all of the comments so far, and in advance for any more that come along.
Jason Jystad
Cito Technologies
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--Larry Wall (Programming Perl) -
Wow! That looks *really* nice! One little improvement might be to presearve selection after using one of the formatting buttons; not sure how difficult that would be. :-D --------_**
From now on we can call C# and MC++ "The square wheel languages"
**_
-- Jack Handy, The Lounge
Actually, I went out to the prototype page and re-tested it. I wanted to make sure that I was correctly remembering what it presently did. What it does now is highlight the selection AND the newly inserted tag(s). Is this what you mean, or did you have some other behaviour in mind? If you wanted a different behaviour, please describe it to me so I can include it on my list correctly. (Remember that the full functionality of this prototype is limited to IE 4.x+ on Win32 platforms. I will be doing the cross-browser mods if Chris chooses to implement this.) Thanks for the suggestions!
Jason Jystad
Cito Technologies
Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)
An object is simply a referenced thingy.
--Larry Wall (Programming Perl) -
Actually, I went out to the prototype page and re-tested it. I wanted to make sure that I was correctly remembering what it presently did. What it does now is highlight the selection AND the newly inserted tag(s). Is this what you mean, or did you have some other behaviour in mind? If you wanted a different behaviour, please describe it to me so I can include it on my list correctly. (Remember that the full functionality of this prototype is limited to IE 4.x+ on Win32 platforms. I will be doing the cross-browser mods if Chris chooses to implement this.) Thanks for the suggestions!
Jason Jystad
Cito Technologies
Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)
An object is simply a referenced thingy.
--Larry Wall (Programming Perl)Jason Jystad wrote: What it does now is highlight the selection AND the newly inserted tag(s). That is what i meant; but it doesn't work for me :( I'm using IE 6.0.26 on Win2k; i'll try it on WinXP when i get home. ---Shog4---_**
From now on we can call C# and MC++ "The square wheel languages"
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-- Jack Handy, The Lounge
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Jason Jystad wrote: What it does now is highlight the selection AND the newly inserted tag(s). That is what i meant; but it doesn't work for me :( I'm using IE 6.0.26 on Win2k; i'll try it on WinXP when i get home. ---Shog4---_**
From now on we can call C# and MC++ "The square wheel languages"
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-- Jack Handy, The Lounge
Really!!?! I am using IE 6.0.26 on Win2k Pro here and it works flawlessly. What does it do on yours?
Jason Jystad
Cito Technologies
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--Larry Wall (Programming Perl) -
Really!!?! I am using IE 6.0.26 on Win2k Pro here and it works flawlessly. What does it do on yours?
Jason Jystad
Cito Technologies
Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)
An object is simply a referenced thingy.
--Larry Wall (Programming Perl)I went back and tried it again; you are correct, it does select the text + tags correctly - but it sometimes does not show the selection! When i select text with the keyboard, everything is good, after i press one of the buttons it will display the new selection and the edit box will have focus. But if i select text using the mouse, and then click one of the buttons, the box has focus, but the selection is not visible, and the cursor is gone. The only way i can tell it is selected is to type something (since that deletes the selection) or hold down shift and move the mouse (since that extends the selection). It is very strange... But at least it works via the keyboard :) ---Shog2---_**
From now on we can call C# and MC++ "The square wheel languages"
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-- Jack Handy, The Lounge
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I went back and tried it again; you are correct, it does select the text + tags correctly - but it sometimes does not show the selection! When i select text with the keyboard, everything is good, after i press one of the buttons it will display the new selection and the edit box will have focus. But if i select text using the mouse, and then click one of the buttons, the box has focus, but the selection is not visible, and the cursor is gone. The only way i can tell it is selected is to type something (since that deletes the selection) or hold down shift and move the mouse (since that extends the selection). It is very strange... But at least it works via the keyboard :) ---Shog2---_**
From now on we can call C# and MC++ "The square wheel languages"
**_
-- Jack Handy, The Lounge
Great hopping horney toads!!!! I guess I have my first bug report. I will use it to create my first entry in a new list. *sigh* :)
Jason Jystad
Cito Technologies
Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)
An object is simply a referenced thingy.
--Larry Wall (Programming Perl) -
I went back and tried it again; you are correct, it does select the text + tags correctly - but it sometimes does not show the selection! When i select text with the keyboard, everything is good, after i press one of the buttons it will display the new selection and the edit box will have focus. But if i select text using the mouse, and then click one of the buttons, the box has focus, but the selection is not visible, and the cursor is gone. The only way i can tell it is selected is to type something (since that deletes the selection) or hold down shift and move the mouse (since that extends the selection). It is very strange... But at least it works via the keyboard :) ---Shog2---_**
From now on we can call C# and MC++ "The square wheel languages"
**_
-- Jack Handy, The Lounge
Ok, I just tested this from my end and it get even weirder. I get the same results you do, which is weird enough, but I also noticed that if you use the mouse to select a word by double clicking the word then it works perfectly. The tags are inserted and the whole thing is selected and shown. So the only way it doesn't show the highlighed selection is if you actually click and drag to highlight the initial selection. This is too damn weird. ;p I will work on this. Thanks for bringing it to my attention Shog.
Jason Jystad
Cito Technologies
Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)
An object is simply a referenced thingy.
--Larry Wall (Programming Perl) -
I went back and tried it again; you are correct, it does select the text + tags correctly - but it sometimes does not show the selection! When i select text with the keyboard, everything is good, after i press one of the buttons it will display the new selection and the edit box will have focus. But if i select text using the mouse, and then click one of the buttons, the box has focus, but the selection is not visible, and the cursor is gone. The only way i can tell it is selected is to type something (since that deletes the selection) or hold down shift and move the mouse (since that extends the selection). It is very strange... But at least it works via the keyboard :) ---Shog2---_**
From now on we can call C# and MC++ "The square wheel languages"
**_
-- Jack Handy, The Lounge
OK, I took a swing at fixing it. No good. I think it may be some kind of screwy IE bug. Let me know how XP handles it. I'll try it on IE 5.5 when I get home.
Jason Jystad
Cito Technologies
Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)
An object is simply a referenced thingy.
--Larry Wall (Programming Perl) -
I am proud to announce the completion of the prototype for a suggested enhancement to the message composition pages of the CP forums. With important input from Nish and much cursing at my buggy Internet connection, I bring you the Code Project Posting Toolbar. :trumpeting fanfare: :) I took a snapshot of the html produced by the reply function in the forums to demonstrate my suggestion. In practice it would be available on any page where message composition is performed. To my knowledge, the full functionality of the prototype is only available in IE4.0+ on win32 platforms. If Chris decides to implement this feature, I have a method in mind that should make it fully cross-browser. The code is just a bit more involved and I did not want to spend the time unless Chris was going to use it. ;) I did a modification to the InsertText() function that also affects the smiley insertion functionality. This causes it to insert the smiley at the cursor position in the textarea when run in IE4.0+. When used under other browsers it will still just append the smiley to the end of the textarea's content. I believe I can also make this fully cross-browser if Chris decides to use it. Consider this a sub-suggestion. :-D
Jason Jystad
Cito Technologies
Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)
An object is simply a referenced thingy.
--Larry Wall (Programming Perl)No changes to functionality, I was trying to debug the problem Shog noticed and when I was unable to fix it I had to do something to give me a feeling of accomplishment. ;) I just took a lap through the code to optimize a few things, make it neater and more consistant, and add some error checking. Otherwise no differences should be noticable.
Jason Jystad
Cito Technologies
Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)
An object is simply a referenced thingy.
--Larry Wall (Programming Perl) -
No changes to functionality, I was trying to debug the problem Shog noticed and when I was unable to fix it I had to do something to give me a feeling of accomplishment. ;) I just took a lap through the code to optimize a few things, make it neater and more consistant, and add some error checking. Otherwise no differences should be noticable.
Jason Jystad
Cito Technologies
Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)
An object is simply a referenced thingy.
--Larry Wall (Programming Perl)Just out of interest, have you looked at Yahoo! mail and Hotmail like Rich Text Editor? cheers, Chris Maunder
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No changes to functionality, I was trying to debug the problem Shog noticed and when I was unable to fix it I had to do something to give me a feeling of accomplishment. ;) I just took a lap through the code to optimize a few things, make it neater and more consistant, and add some error checking. Otherwise no differences should be noticable.
Jason Jystad
Cito Technologies
Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)
An object is simply a referenced thingy.
--Larry Wall (Programming Perl)If you're going to add tags, you should place the cursor between them. Otherwise, a cool idea.... Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002
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I am proud to announce the completion of the prototype for a suggested enhancement to the message composition pages of the CP forums. With important input from Nish and much cursing at my buggy Internet connection, I bring you the Code Project Posting Toolbar. :trumpeting fanfare: :) I took a snapshot of the html produced by the reply function in the forums to demonstrate my suggestion. In practice it would be available on any page where message composition is performed. To my knowledge, the full functionality of the prototype is only available in IE4.0+ on win32 platforms. If Chris decides to implement this feature, I have a method in mind that should make it fully cross-browser. The code is just a bit more involved and I did not want to spend the time unless Chris was going to use it. ;) I did a modification to the InsertText() function that also affects the smiley insertion functionality. This causes it to insert the smiley at the cursor position in the textarea when run in IE4.0+. When used under other browsers it will still just append the smiley to the end of the textarea's content. I believe I can also make this fully cross-browser if Chris decides to use it. Consider this a sub-suggestion. :-D
Jason Jystad
Cito Technologies
Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)
An object is simply a referenced thingy.
--Larry Wall (Programming Perl)Jason Jystad wrote: With important input from Nish :-O :-O :-O Thanks Jason :-) Nish
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
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If you're going to add tags, you should place the cursor between them. Otherwise, a cool idea.... Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002
Christian Graus wrote: you should place the cursor between them I donno why, but that sentence looks like it came out of a pr0n book ;-) Nish
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
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OK, I took a swing at fixing it. No good. I think it may be some kind of screwy IE bug. Let me know how XP handles it. I'll try it on IE 5.5 when I get home.
Jason Jystad
Cito Technologies
Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)
An object is simply a referenced thingy.
--Larry Wall (Programming Perl)