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  • J Jason Jystad

    I am proud to announce the completion of the prototype for a suggested enhancement to the message composition pages of the CP forums. With important input from Nish and much cursing at my buggy Internet connection, I bring you the Code Project Posting Toolbar. :trumpeting fanfare: :) I took a snapshot of the html produced by the reply function in the forums to demonstrate my suggestion. In practice it would be available on any page where message composition is performed. To my knowledge, the full functionality of the prototype is only available in IE4.0+ on win32 platforms. If Chris decides to implement this feature, I have a method in mind that should make it fully cross-browser. The code is just a bit more involved and I did not want to spend the time unless Chris was going to use it. ;) I did a modification to the InsertText() function that also affects the smiley insertion functionality. This causes it to insert the smiley at the cursor position in the textarea when run in IE4.0+. When used under other browsers it will still just append the smiley to the end of the textarea's content. I believe I can also make this fully cross-browser if Chris decides to use it. Consider this a sub-suggestion. :-D

    Jason Jystad

    Cito Technologies
    Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)


    An object is simply a referenced thingy.
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    No changes to functionality, I was trying to debug the problem Shog noticed and when I was unable to fix it I had to do something to give me a feeling of accomplishment. ;) I just took a lap through the code to optimize a few things, make it neater and more consistant, and add some error checking. Otherwise no differences should be noticable.

    Jason Jystad

    Cito Technologies
    Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)


    An object is simply a referenced thingy.
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      No changes to functionality, I was trying to debug the problem Shog noticed and when I was unable to fix it I had to do something to give me a feeling of accomplishment. ;) I just took a lap through the code to optimize a few things, make it neater and more consistant, and add some error checking. Otherwise no differences should be noticable.

      Jason Jystad

      Cito Technologies
      Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)


      An object is simply a referenced thingy.
      --Larry Wall (Programming Perl)

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      Just out of interest, have you looked at Yahoo! mail and Hotmail like Rich Text Editor? cheers, Chris Maunder

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        No changes to functionality, I was trying to debug the problem Shog noticed and when I was unable to fix it I had to do something to give me a feeling of accomplishment. ;) I just took a lap through the code to optimize a few things, make it neater and more consistant, and add some error checking. Otherwise no differences should be noticable.

        Jason Jystad

        Cito Technologies
        Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)


        An object is simply a referenced thingy.
        --Larry Wall (Programming Perl)

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        If you're going to add tags, you should place the cursor between them. Otherwise, a cool idea.... Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002

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        • J Jason Jystad

          I am proud to announce the completion of the prototype for a suggested enhancement to the message composition pages of the CP forums. With important input from Nish and much cursing at my buggy Internet connection, I bring you the Code Project Posting Toolbar. :trumpeting fanfare: :) I took a snapshot of the html produced by the reply function in the forums to demonstrate my suggestion. In practice it would be available on any page where message composition is performed. To my knowledge, the full functionality of the prototype is only available in IE4.0+ on win32 platforms. If Chris decides to implement this feature, I have a method in mind that should make it fully cross-browser. The code is just a bit more involved and I did not want to spend the time unless Chris was going to use it. ;) I did a modification to the InsertText() function that also affects the smiley insertion functionality. This causes it to insert the smiley at the cursor position in the textarea when run in IE4.0+. When used under other browsers it will still just append the smiley to the end of the textarea's content. I believe I can also make this fully cross-browser if Chris decides to use it. Consider this a sub-suggestion. :-D

          Jason Jystad

          Cito Technologies
          Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)


          An object is simply a referenced thingy.
          --Larry Wall (Programming Perl)

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          Nish Nishant
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          Jason Jystad wrote: With important input from Nish :-O :-O :-O Thanks Jason :-) Nish


          Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.

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            If you're going to add tags, you should place the cursor between them. Otherwise, a cool idea.... Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002

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            Nish Nishant
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            Christian Graus wrote: you should place the cursor between them I donno why, but that sentence looks like it came out of a pr0n book ;-) Nish


            Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.

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            • J Jason Jystad

              OK, I took a swing at fixing it. No good. I think it may be some kind of screwy IE bug. Let me know how XP handles it. I'll try it on IE 5.5 when I get home.

              Jason Jystad

              Cito Technologies
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              It acts the same on WinXP; must be a IE6 problem. Good luck tracking it down :) ---Shog9---_**

              From now on we can call C# and MC++ "The square wheel languages"

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                If you're going to add tags, you should place the cursor between them. Otherwise, a cool idea.... Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002

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                Jason Jystad
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                This feature will be included in the next upgrade. :laugh: Seriously though, I am working on this I just haven't worked all the bugs out yet.

                Jason Jystad

                Cito Technologies
                Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)


                An object is simply a referenced thingy.
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                  Just out of interest, have you looked at Yahoo! mail and Hotmail like Rich Text Editor? cheers, Chris Maunder

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                  Jason Jystad
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                  Hmm, no I hadn't seen that one. Thanks, looks to be worth reading. Only thing I see wrong with this is that it isn't possible to make it cross browser compatible. I am certain I can make the functions above fully cross browser. I am pretty sure that I can even get them cross browser with minimal to no loss of functionality. So what do you think of my button bar? Yes? No? Go soak my damn head and stop suggesting things? :)

                  Jason Jystad

                  Cito Technologies
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                  An object is simply a referenced thingy.
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                    Jason Jystad wrote: With important input from Nish :-O :-O :-O Thanks Jason :-) Nish


                    Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.

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                    Jason Jystad
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                    Thank you for the input. The convert button was your idea, and now it is my favorite feature. :) Now if I could just get Chris to give me a thumbs up or a thumbs down. :)

                    Jason Jystad

                    Cito Technologies
                    Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)


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                      It acts the same on WinXP; must be a IE6 problem. Good luck tracking it down :) ---Shog9---_**

                      From now on we can call C# and MC++ "The square wheel languages"

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                      -- Jack Handy, The Lounge

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                      Jason Jystad
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                      Its a *feature* not a bug damnit! :-D Ah well, I'll try to figure out a work-around but don't hold your breath. :)

                      Jason Jystad

                      Cito Technologies
                      Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)


                      An object is simply a referenced thingy.
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                      • J Jason Jystad

                        Thank you for the input. The convert button was your idea, and now it is my favorite feature. :) Now if I could just get Chris to give me a thumbs up or a thumbs down. :)

                        Jason Jystad

                        Cito Technologies
                        Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)


                        An object is simply a referenced thingy.
                        --Larry Wall (Programming Perl)

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                        Chris Maunder
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                        Jason Jystad wrote: Now if I could just get Chris to give me a thumbs up or a thumbs down lol! I honestly haven't had a chance to look over it carefully. OK <tappity> Let's give it a burl.

                        • Looks good.
                        • love the insert smiley thing. Well done.
                        • I wouldn't put spaces around the > inserts.
                        • It would be really, really nice to have the buttons be reversible. Thus, if a text selection starts with <small> and ends with </small>, and the 'small' button is clicked, the tags are removed instead of added.
                        • The addition of a URLeriser would be great. Something that takes text and wraps in <a href...> tags. If the text didn't start with "http://" then http would need to be added.

                        I'll definitely implement some (or most) of the functionality. Nice work Jason!! cheers, Chris Maunder

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                          Jason Jystad wrote: Now if I could just get Chris to give me a thumbs up or a thumbs down lol! I honestly haven't had a chance to look over it carefully. OK <tappity> Let's give it a burl.

                          • Looks good.
                          • love the insert smiley thing. Well done.
                          • I wouldn't put spaces around the > inserts.
                          • It would be really, really nice to have the buttons be reversible. Thus, if a text selection starts with <small> and ends with </small>, and the 'small' button is clicked, the tags are removed instead of added.
                          • The addition of a URLeriser would be great. Something that takes text and wraps in <a href...> tags. If the text didn't start with "http://" then http would need to be added.

                          I'll definitely implement some (or most) of the functionality. Nice work Jason!! cheers, Chris Maunder

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                          Jason Jystad
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                          Chris Maunder wrote: lol! I honestly haven't had a chance to look over it carefully. OK Let's give it a burl. Sorry, I wasn't trying to be a twit but the suspense was killing me. :) Chris Maunder wrote: Looks good. thanks! Chris Maunder wrote: love the insert smiley thing. Well done. Thanks again. Remember that this only works in IE 4+. In Netscape it works the old way. I have some ideas to improve this even further included on the feature to-do list. Chris Maunder wrote: I wouldn't put spaces around the > inserts. This is something I wanted to talk to you about. The modified InsertText function does this because I have noticed that some smilies require spaces around them before they will parse correctly. Is this by design? Or have I just been smokeing crack again? If the smiley parser doesn't require them then I'll be happy to remove the spaces. (kewl, I just got to use the term "smiley parser" in a meaningful technical dialogue! :laugh: ) Chris Maunder wrote: It would be really, really nice to have the buttons be reversible. Thus, if a text selection starts with and ends with , and the 'small' button is clicked, the tags are removed instead of added. OK, now that is a little harder. I could do it though, it would take me a bit to implement but I think I could pull it off. Besides it sounds like fun. ;) I'll add it to the feature to-do list. Chris Maunder wrote: The addition of a URLeriser would be great. Something that takes text and wraps in tags. If the text didn't start with "http://" then http would need to be added. That is so easy that I will only dignify it with one comment. Done. (Check the prototype again - InLinkErAtor lives!) ;) So do you want me to go ahead and implement the other suggested features and make the whole thing as fully cross-browser as possible? I can do this and either e-mail you the code or post it if you prefer. This thing is so damned encapsulated that it would be EASY to do either. Let me know what you want me to do and I'll finish this sucker off. (Whee I feel all official now, I got a suggestion accepted. :) )

                          Jason Jystad

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                            Jason Jystad wrote: Now if I could just get Chris to give me a thumbs up or a thumbs down lol! I honestly haven't had a chance to look over it carefully. OK <tappity> Let's give it a burl.

                            • Looks good.
                            • love the insert smiley thing. Well done.
                            • I wouldn't put spaces around the > inserts.
                            • It would be really, really nice to have the buttons be reversible. Thus, if a text selection starts with <small> and ends with </small>, and the 'small' button is clicked, the tags are removed instead of added.
                            • The addition of a URLeriser would be great. Something that takes text and wraps in <a href...> tags. If the text didn't start with "http://" then http would need to be added.

                            I'll definitely implement some (or most) of the functionality. Nice work Jason!! cheers, Chris Maunder

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                            Jason Jystad
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                            Oh yeah, one other thing... What in tarnation is a Drop Bear?

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                              Oh yeah, one other thing... What in tarnation is a Drop Bear?

                              Jason Jystad

                              Cito Technologies
                              Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)


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                              You have been warned... cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                Chris Maunder wrote: lol! I honestly haven't had a chance to look over it carefully. OK Let's give it a burl. Sorry, I wasn't trying to be a twit but the suspense was killing me. :) Chris Maunder wrote: Looks good. thanks! Chris Maunder wrote: love the insert smiley thing. Well done. Thanks again. Remember that this only works in IE 4+. In Netscape it works the old way. I have some ideas to improve this even further included on the feature to-do list. Chris Maunder wrote: I wouldn't put spaces around the > inserts. This is something I wanted to talk to you about. The modified InsertText function does this because I have noticed that some smilies require spaces around them before they will parse correctly. Is this by design? Or have I just been smokeing crack again? If the smiley parser doesn't require them then I'll be happy to remove the spaces. (kewl, I just got to use the term "smiley parser" in a meaningful technical dialogue! :laugh: ) Chris Maunder wrote: It would be really, really nice to have the buttons be reversible. Thus, if a text selection starts with and ends with , and the 'small' button is clicked, the tags are removed instead of added. OK, now that is a little harder. I could do it though, it would take me a bit to implement but I think I could pull it off. Besides it sounds like fun. ;) I'll add it to the feature to-do list. Chris Maunder wrote: The addition of a URLeriser would be great. Something that takes text and wraps in tags. If the text didn't start with "http://" then http would need to be added. That is so easy that I will only dignify it with one comment. Done. (Check the prototype again - InLinkErAtor lives!) ;) So do you want me to go ahead and implement the other suggested features and make the whole thing as fully cross-browser as possible? I can do this and either e-mail you the code or post it if you prefer. This thing is so damned encapsulated that it would be EASY to do either. Let me know what you want me to do and I'll finish this sucker off. (Whee I feel all official now, I got a suggestion accepted. :) )

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                                Jason Jystad wrote: This is something I wanted to talk to you about. The modified InsertText function does this because I have noticed that some smilies require spaces around them before they will parse correctly. Is this by design? Or have I just been smokeing crack again? If the smiley parser doesn't require them then I'll be happy to remove the spaces The spaces are because some smileys need spaces around them to ensure they aren't mixed up with legit words (eg : D needs a space after the 'D' so that something like ::DestroyWindow isn't turned into :D estroyWindow) Jason Jystad wrote: So do you want me to go ahead and implement the other suggested features and make the whole thing as fully cross-browser as possible? That would be sensational. I'll probably replace the button bar you have with a VS.NET style (I can hear the groans) menu bar. Thanks Jason!! cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                  You have been warned... cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                  Jason Jystad
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                                  Yee gods, and I parked under a tree today! *slinks away looking up* :laugh:

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                                    Jason Jystad wrote: This is something I wanted to talk to you about. The modified InsertText function does this because I have noticed that some smilies require spaces around them before they will parse correctly. Is this by design? Or have I just been smokeing crack again? If the smiley parser doesn't require them then I'll be happy to remove the spaces The spaces are because some smileys need spaces around them to ensure they aren't mixed up with legit words (eg : D needs a space after the 'D' so that something like ::DestroyWindow isn't turned into :D estroyWindow) Jason Jystad wrote: So do you want me to go ahead and implement the other suggested features and make the whole thing as fully cross-browser as possible? That would be sensational. I'll probably replace the button bar you have with a VS.NET style (I can hear the groans) menu bar. Thanks Jason!! cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                    Chris Maunder wrote: The spaces are because some smileys need spaces around them to ensure they aren't mixed up with legit words (eg : D needs a space after the 'D' so that something like ::DestroyWindow isn't turned into estroyWindow) Ah, I thought it was something like that. I will add this to my list of things to look over and fix. Chris Maunder wrote: That would be sensational. I'll probably replace the button bar you have with a VS.NET style (I can hear the groans) menu bar. Groans, what groans? *looks around confusedly* Why would anyone groan? I was originally planning on doing it that way myself, it was just easier to prototype it this way first. (great minds do think alike I guess :) ) I will get started on finishing this up asap, but right now I am going home to bed. :yawn:

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                                    Cito Technologies
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                                    • J Jason Jystad

                                      I am proud to announce the completion of the prototype for a suggested enhancement to the message composition pages of the CP forums. With important input from Nish and much cursing at my buggy Internet connection, I bring you the Code Project Posting Toolbar. :trumpeting fanfare: :) I took a snapshot of the html produced by the reply function in the forums to demonstrate my suggestion. In practice it would be available on any page where message composition is performed. To my knowledge, the full functionality of the prototype is only available in IE4.0+ on win32 platforms. If Chris decides to implement this feature, I have a method in mind that should make it fully cross-browser. The code is just a bit more involved and I did not want to spend the time unless Chris was going to use it. ;) I did a modification to the InsertText() function that also affects the smiley insertion functionality. This causes it to insert the smiley at the cursor position in the textarea when run in IE4.0+. When used under other browsers it will still just append the smiley to the end of the textarea's content. I believe I can also make this fully cross-browser if Chris decides to use it. Consider this a sub-suggestion. :-D

                                      Jason Jystad

                                      Cito Technologies
                                      Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)


                                      An object is simply a referenced thingy.
                                      --Larry Wall (Programming Perl)

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                                      Very nice. The interface is a little unfriendly at first but the work it does is very impressive. Nice one. Michael :-)

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                                        I am proud to announce the completion of the prototype for a suggested enhancement to the message composition pages of the CP forums. With important input from Nish and much cursing at my buggy Internet connection, I bring you the Code Project Posting Toolbar. :trumpeting fanfare: :) I took a snapshot of the html produced by the reply function in the forums to demonstrate my suggestion. In practice it would be available on any page where message composition is performed. To my knowledge, the full functionality of the prototype is only available in IE4.0+ on win32 platforms. If Chris decides to implement this feature, I have a method in mind that should make it fully cross-browser. The code is just a bit more involved and I did not want to spend the time unless Chris was going to use it. ;) I did a modification to the InsertText() function that also affects the smiley insertion functionality. This causes it to insert the smiley at the cursor position in the textarea when run in IE4.0+. When used under other browsers it will still just append the smiley to the end of the textarea's content. I believe I can also make this fully cross-browser if Chris decides to use it. Consider this a sub-suggestion. :-D

                                        Jason Jystad

                                        Cito Technologies
                                        Sonork ID: Ogami(100.9918)


                                        An object is simply a referenced thingy.
                                        --Larry Wall (Programming Perl)

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                                        Jason Jystad wrote: I bring you the Code Project Posting Toolbar.

                                        <a href="http://" target="_blank">http://</a>

                                        *sigh* Not even my friends support me :laugh: Very cool toolbar Jason. An "instant preview" (done client side, no server call) would be nice. Not hard to do with IE's HTML features. Shout if you want the code. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Tim Smith wrote: Over here in the third world of humor (a.k.a. BBC America),

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                                          Jason Jystad wrote: I bring you the Code Project Posting Toolbar.

                                          <a href="http://" target="_blank">http://</a>

                                          *sigh* Not even my friends support me :laugh: Very cool toolbar Jason. An "instant preview" (done client side, no server call) would be nice. Not hard to do with IE's HTML features. Shout if you want the code. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Tim Smith wrote: Over here in the third world of humor (a.k.a. BBC America),

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                                          Paul Watson wrote: *sigh* Not even my friends support me Ok, what'd I miss? I sense a missed thread here. Fill me in. :)

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