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    Douglas Troy
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    For those of you that are not aware of this ... Vista Bug[^]


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      For those of you that are not aware of this ... Vista Bug[^]


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      Nish Nishant
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      I haven't experienced the bug mentioned in the article, but when copying a big folder (large number of subfolders and files), a non-trivial amount of time's wasted because Vista insists on calculating the time remaining before it begins copying files. This is annoying because I'd rather have the file copy done with as fast as possible than have it noticeably slower but with an accurate time-remaining progress info.

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        For those of you that are not aware of this ... Vista Bug[^]


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        On the same site ... Microsoft: Vista sales double Windows XP pace[^]

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          I haven't experienced the bug mentioned in the article, but when copying a big folder (large number of subfolders and files), a non-trivial amount of time's wasted because Vista insists on calculating the time remaining before it begins copying files. This is annoying because I'd rather have the file copy done with as fast as possible than have it noticeably slower but with an accurate time-remaining progress info.

          Regards, Nish


          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
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          David Crow
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          This is not new to Vista.


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            On the same site ... Microsoft: Vista sales double Windows XP pace[^]

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            Douglas Troy
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            Emmmm ... that doesn't seem right ... probably a cut & paste error ... :rolleyes:


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              For those of you that are not aware of this ... Vista Bug[^]


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              Marc Clifton
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              I've noticed it takes longer to calculate how much time it'll take to copy the file than to actually copy it. Marc

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                On the same site ... Microsoft: Vista sales double Windows XP pace[^]

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                Dan Neely
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                Apples or oranges comparison. Vista was 1st month data only and included early adopter sales and 1 month of retail. XP was 2 month data and while the number of retail copies should be doubled the early adopter flow the 2nd month was probably much smaller. At 20M in 1mo vs 17M in 2mo Vista still outsold XP but the 2:1 claim cannot be supported by the data as presented.

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                  On the same site ... Microsoft: Vista sales double Windows XP pace[^]

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                  Marc Clifton
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                  It boggles the mind that anyone can sell 20 million licenses of anything. That's 20 million computers. Good grief. Well, with 6+ billion people on the planet... Marc

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                  • N Nish Nishant

                    I haven't experienced the bug mentioned in the article, but when copying a big folder (large number of subfolders and files), a non-trivial amount of time's wasted because Vista insists on calculating the time remaining before it begins copying files. This is annoying because I'd rather have the file copy done with as fast as possible than have it noticeably slower but with an accurate time-remaining progress info.

                    Regards, Nish


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                    Muammar
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                    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                    I'd rather have the file copy done with as fast as possible than have it noticeably slower but with an accurate time-remaining progress info.

                    True:sigh:


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                      For those of you that are not aware of this ... Vista Bug[^]


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                      Muammar
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                      computerworld wrote:

                      A $59 support charge may apply

                      This's crap!!


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                        For those of you that are not aware of this ... Vista Bug[^]


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                        Why can't the hotfix appear in Windows Update? Or is it because a hotfix is equivalent to: "not yet been QAed by MS?"

                        Kevin

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                          This is not new to Vista.


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                          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                          No, but it's worse with Vista.

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                            Why can't the hotfix appear in Windows Update? Or is it because a hotfix is equivalent to: "not yet been QAed by MS?"

                            Kevin

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                            Dan Neely
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                            Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                            Or is it because a hotfix is equivalent to: "not yet been QAed by MS?"

                            I believe if you combine it with "...and doesn't fix a security problem" that's what it comes down to.

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                              I haven't experienced the bug mentioned in the article, but when copying a big folder (large number of subfolders and files), a non-trivial amount of time's wasted because Vista insists on calculating the time remaining before it begins copying files. This is annoying because I'd rather have the file copy done with as fast as possible than have it noticeably slower but with an accurate time-remaining progress info.

                              Regards, Nish


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                              Bugra Barin
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                              I noticed that most of the time (if the files aren't big) it finishes the operation before it can calculate the remaining time. So I didn't think it was wasting time there. But it sure is wasting time somewhere because file operations in Vista is infuriatingly slow.

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                                Why can't the hotfix appear in Windows Update? Or is it because a hotfix is equivalent to: "not yet been QAed by MS?"

                                Kevin

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                                David Wulff
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                                D'uh, because it would take to long to extract it after downloading... :rolleyes:


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                                  I haven't experienced the bug mentioned in the article, but when copying a big folder (large number of subfolders and files), a non-trivial amount of time's wasted because Vista insists on calculating the time remaining before it begins copying files. This is annoying because I'd rather have the file copy done with as fast as possible than have it noticeably slower but with an accurate time-remaining progress info.

                                  Regards, Nish


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                                  Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                  I agree. I've never liked how the measurement is done time-based. One thing I would like to see is a way to customize what is shown and how its copied. For example, it would be nice if the copy/move option had a setting where you could tell it to copy smallest to largest, newest to oldest, or vice-versa. Also, it would be nice if you could configure it to display the number of files remaining instead of time remaining, or even size remaining or any combination thereof.


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                                    For those of you that are not aware of this ... Vista Bug[^]


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                                    SassenFrassenRassen
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                                    I always use robocopy for any significant file copy or move operations. Waaay more reliable. I've never used Vista but I'm sure it'll work there too ;P

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                                      I haven't experienced the bug mentioned in the article, but when copying a big folder (large number of subfolders and files), a non-trivial amount of time's wasted because Vista insists on calculating the time remaining before it begins copying files. This is annoying because I'd rather have the file copy done with as fast as possible than have it noticeably slower but with an accurate time-remaining progress info.

                                      Regards, Nish


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                                      C++/CLI in Action (*E-Book is out, Print version April 6th*)

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                                      Stuart Dootson
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                                      OS X does the same thing (although it's possibly quicker at counting the number of files to copy - it's difficult to tell) - it's a pain in the backside. That's why I often resort to XCOPY/cp -R instead.

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                                        Apples or oranges comparison. Vista was 1st month data only and included early adopter sales and 1 month of retail. XP was 2 month data and while the number of retail copies should be doubled the early adopter flow the 2nd month was probably much smaller. At 20M in 1mo vs 17M in 2mo Vista still outsold XP but the 2:1 claim cannot be supported by the data as presented.

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                                        And let's not forget that any of those licenses that were purchased by Volume Licensing customers were actually 4th-month sales, not 1st-month.


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                                        • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                          I agree. I've never liked how the measurement is done time-based. One thing I would like to see is a way to customize what is shown and how its copied. For example, it would be nice if the copy/move option had a setting where you could tell it to copy smallest to largest, newest to oldest, or vice-versa. Also, it would be nice if you could configure it to display the number of files remaining instead of time remaining, or even size remaining or any combination thereof.


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                                          Mike Poz
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                                          Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                          Also, it would be nice if you could configure it to display the number of files remaining instead of time remaining, or even size remaining or any combination thereof.

                                          The copy dialog has a dropdown button that displays that exact information.

                                          Mike Poz

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