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  • J Joe Woodbury

    Now that would be a excellent feature. I'd even pay for a version of VirtualPC that had it.

    Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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    Bassam Abdul Baki
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    Microsoft wouldn't do that for licensing issues.


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    • B Bassam Abdul Baki

      Microsoft wouldn't do that for licensing issues.


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      Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

      Microsoft wouldn't do that for licensing issues.

      Which I still don't understand at all. Why not make the virtual machine locked to the same client (not server) OS that it was created from? This would enable me to test software without mucking up my stable install (including Microsoft software!)

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      • J Joe Woodbury

        Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

        Microsoft wouldn't do that for licensing issues.

        Which I still don't understand at all. Why not make the virtual machine locked to the same client (not server) OS that it was created from? This would enable me to test software without mucking up my stable install (including Microsoft software!)

        Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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        Because the smart people would not want to test software on their OSes and MS can make money selling multiple OSes to people who do a lot of development and testing. It's a ripoff for sure. ;)


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          Because the smart people would not want to test software on their OSes and MS can make money selling multiple OSes to people who do a lot of development and testing. It's a ripoff for sure. ;)


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          Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

          Because the smart people would not want to test software on their OSes and MS can make money selling multiple OSes to people who do a lot of development and testing.

          Microsoft doesn't make more money this way. MSDN gives you plenty of licenses and I often created virtual machines without ever registering the OS. (And even if you run out of registrations, you can get more with a simple phone call.) The only reason they don't do this is they are unimaginative paranoid pin heads.

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          • J Joe Woodbury

            Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

            Because the smart people would not want to test software on their OSes and MS can make money selling multiple OSes to people who do a lot of development and testing.

            Microsoft doesn't make more money this way. MSDN gives you plenty of licenses and I often created virtual machines without ever registering the OS. (And even if you run out of registrations, you can get more with a simple phone call.) The only reason they don't do this is they are unimaginative paranoid pin heads.

            Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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            Joe Woodbury wrote:

            The only reason they don't do this is they are unimaginative paranoid pin heads.

            Mostly unimaginative.

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            • J Joe Woodbury

              Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

              Because the smart people would not want to test software on their OSes and MS can make money selling multiple OSes to people who do a lot of development and testing.

              Microsoft doesn't make more money this way. MSDN gives you plenty of licenses and I often created virtual machines without ever registering the OS. (And even if you run out of registrations, you can get more with a simple phone call.) The only reason they don't do this is they are unimaginative paranoid pin heads.

              Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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              Isn't what you're doing technically illegal? Microsoft should take themselves t court for giving you the new registration code. :)


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                Isn't what you're doing technically illegal? Microsoft should take themselves t court for giving you the new registration code. :)


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                Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                Isn't what you're doing technically illegal?

                No, it's part of MSDN. You get 10 activations, but you can't undo an activation after having used one. Microsoft itself advises that you call them up.

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                • K Kevin McFarlane

                  VMWare does (assuming you have the right version). Parallels probably does. The Mac version of Parallels does something like that at any rate.

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                  Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                  Parallels probably does

                  Parallels does not, though they allow you to image an existing drive and "add" as an additional drive to the system, they do not directly image a physical to virtual image. They claim they are working on it.

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                  • E El Corazon

                    Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                    Parallels probably does

                    Parallels does not, though they allow you to image an existing drive and "add" as an additional drive to the system, they do not directly image a physical to virtual image. They claim they are working on it.

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                    I thought perhaps the "Transporter" mode for the Mac was effectively doing this and that perhaps the PC version would as well. I've not used any of these VMs so I'm just theorising based on snippets I've seen on web sites.

                    Kevin

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                    • K Kevin McFarlane

                      I thought perhaps the "Transporter" mode for the Mac was effectively doing this and that perhaps the PC version would as well. I've not used any of these VMs so I'm just theorising based on snippets I've seen on web sites.

                      Kevin

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                      Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                      perhaps the "Transporter" mode for the Mac was effectively doing this

                      It may be. The windows version makes it quite clear that they do not support this model yet, and the image drive option is only for "additional" drives, not the main boot VM drive. However, they "claim" they are working on an "importer" from other VM environments, in which case they could bypass this by importing from someone who does support this ability.

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