Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Code Project
  1. Home
  2. General Programming
  3. C / C++ / MFC
  4. Is this a Bug or What?

Is this a Bug or What?

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved C / C++ / MFC
csharpvisual-studiohelpquestion
17 Posts 9 Posters 0 Views 1 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • S sanket patel

    Thanks!! but dont you think this should not be allowed??

    sanket

    S Offline
    S Offline
    sthotakura
    wrote on last edited by
    #4

    It is the responsibility of the developer not to use such constructs. Cheers

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • S sanket patel

      Hello All !! I am using visual studio 6.0 I tried to access the private class member outside the class using #define macro. here is the code. I was able to access private member outside the class? why did this work? This should be allowed or not?

      #define private public
      
      class A
      {
      
      private:
      	int i;
      
      public:
      	A()
      	{
      		i = 44;
      	}
      
      };
      
      int main()
      {
      	A obA;
      	cout<<"\ni = "<
      

      sanket

      T Offline
      T Offline
      toxcct
      wrote on last edited by
      #5

      sanket.patel wrote:

      #define private public

      sanket.patel wrote:

      I was able to access private member outside the class? why did this work?

      of course you could !! you told it (with the #define) to replace each private keyword occurence by public... so that every private member is actually public. why on earth where you trying to do with such horror ?! :wtf:


      [VisualCalc][Binary Guide][CommDialogs] | [Forums Guidelines]

      S 1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • S sanket patel

        Thanks!! but dont you think this should not be allowed??

        sanket

        T Offline
        T Offline
        toxcct
        wrote on last edited by
        #6

        sanket.patel wrote:

        but dont you think this should not be allowed??

        play VB if you're age to play with a plastic hammer. if you code in C/C++, know that you can break much more than that. don't code what you can regret later...


        [VisualCalc][Binary Guide][CommDialogs] | [Forums Guidelines]

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • T toxcct

          sanket.patel wrote:

          #define private public

          sanket.patel wrote:

          I was able to access private member outside the class? why did this work?

          of course you could !! you told it (with the #define) to replace each private keyword occurence by public... so that every private member is actually public. why on earth where you trying to do with such horror ?! :wtf:


          [VisualCalc][Binary Guide][CommDialogs] | [Forums Guidelines]

          S Offline
          S Offline
          sanket patel
          wrote on last edited by
          #7

          Actually !! I was asked to find the ways to access private members outside the class? so one method is using friends.... and i thought of this as the other way... Thanks,

          sanket

          T 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • S sanket patel

            Actually !! I was asked to find the ways to access private members outside the class? so one method is using friends.... and i thought of this as the other way... Thanks,

            sanket

            T Offline
            T Offline
            toxcct
            wrote on last edited by
            #8

            sanket.patel wrote:

            I was asked to find the ways to access private members outside the class

            and you chose the worst... if members are private, it's to deliberately hide them from the outside. look. if you have an object engine, do you know how it works internally ? certainly not. you only see the apis (accelerator, starter, etc...). anyway, have you thought to members accessors (getters, setters) ?


            [VisualCalc][Binary Guide][CommDialogs] | [Forums Guidelines]

            S 1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • T toxcct

              sanket.patel wrote:

              I was asked to find the ways to access private members outside the class

              and you chose the worst... if members are private, it's to deliberately hide them from the outside. look. if you have an object engine, do you know how it works internally ? certainly not. you only see the apis (accelerator, starter, etc...). anyway, have you thought to members accessors (getters, setters) ?


              [VisualCalc][Binary Guide][CommDialogs] | [Forums Guidelines]

              S Offline
              S Offline
              sanket patel
              wrote on last edited by
              #9

              Thank you very much! yeah I know about getters and setters and I know I choose the worst! but the the question is about that only.. i.e. the unusual ways to access the private data. Thanks,

              sanket

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • S sanket patel

                Thanks!! but dont you think this should not be allowed??

                sanket

                C Offline
                C Offline
                Christian Graus
                wrote on last edited by
                #10

                VB and C# are languages written to cater to the lowest common denominator. C++ assumes a level of skill in the developer. #define is a hangover from C, which C++ is derived from. The designer of C++ would prefer it was not there, but it's still true that his design philosophy is to give the language powerful features and assume his users know how to use them.

                Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

                B R 2 Replies Last reply
                0
                • S sanket patel

                  Hello All !! I am using visual studio 6.0 I tried to access the private class member outside the class using #define macro. here is the code. I was able to access private member outside the class? why did this work? This should be allowed or not?

                  #define private public
                  
                  class A
                  {
                  
                  private:
                  	int i;
                  
                  public:
                  	A()
                  	{
                  		i = 44;
                  	}
                  
                  };
                  
                  int main()
                  {
                  	A obA;
                  	cout<<"\ni = "<
                  

                  sanket

                  M Offline
                  M Offline
                  Michael Dunn
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #11

                  GIGO - if you pull stunts like that, don't be surprised when you get odd results.

                  --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ Ford, what's this fish doing in my ear?

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • S sanket patel

                    Hello All !! I am using visual studio 6.0 I tried to access the private class member outside the class using #define macro. here is the code. I was able to access private member outside the class? why did this work? This should be allowed or not?

                    #define private public
                    
                    class A
                    {
                    
                    private:
                    	int i;
                    
                    public:
                    	A()
                    	{
                    		i = 44;
                    	}
                    
                    };
                    
                    int main()
                    {
                    	A obA;
                    	cout<<"\ni = "<
                    

                    sanket

                    R Offline
                    R Offline
                    Rajesh R Subramanian
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #12

                    sanket.patel wrote:

                    #define private public

                    My opinion is that you will *EXCEL* in the "Coding Horros" forum. Well, what are you waiting for? Post some of your fantastic code there! :|


                    Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero ப்ரம்மா

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • S sanket patel

                      Hello All !! I am using visual studio 6.0 I tried to access the private class member outside the class using #define macro. here is the code. I was able to access private member outside the class? why did this work? This should be allowed or not?

                      #define private public
                      
                      class A
                      {
                      
                      private:
                      	int i;
                      
                      public:
                      	A()
                      	{
                      		i = 44;
                      	}
                      
                      };
                      
                      int main()
                      {
                      	A obA;
                      	cout<<"\ni = "<
                      

                      sanket

                      C Offline
                      C Offline
                      cp9876
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #13

                      To make the most of your coding experience, you probably should try: To save testing: #define true false this always happens anyway: #define this NULL to avoid accidental deletion #define delete /##/ avoid wasting loop iterations: #define break continue just in case the others are boring: #define try do #define catch while

                      Peter "Until the invention of the computer, the machine gun was the device that enabled humans to make the most mistakes in the smallest amount of time."

                      M 1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • C Christian Graus

                        VB and C# are languages written to cater to the lowest common denominator. C++ assumes a level of skill in the developer. #define is a hangover from C, which C++ is derived from. The designer of C++ would prefer it was not there, but it's still true that his design philosophy is to give the language powerful features and assume his users know how to use them.

                        Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

                        B Offline
                        B Offline
                        BadKarma
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #14

                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        #define is a hangover from C, which C++ is derived from. The designer of C++ would prefer it was not there, but it's still true that his design philosophy is to give the language powerful features and assume his users know how to use them.

                        A hangover, maybe, but it is o so powerful. But with every powerful it should be used with care. #define is a dangerous tool in the hands of the unexperienced.:-D

                        codito ergo sum

                        C 1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • C Christian Graus

                          VB and C# are languages written to cater to the lowest common denominator. C++ assumes a level of skill in the developer. #define is a hangover from C, which C++ is derived from. The designer of C++ would prefer it was not there, but it's still true that his design philosophy is to give the language powerful features and assume his users know how to use them.

                          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

                          R Offline
                          R Offline
                          Rajesh R Subramanian
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #15

                          You got sig-ed. 'nce again. :-D


                          VB and C# are languages written to cater to the lowest common denominator. C++ assumes a level of skill in the developer. - Christian Graus

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • B BadKarma

                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            #define is a hangover from C, which C++ is derived from. The designer of C++ would prefer it was not there, but it's still true that his design philosophy is to give the language powerful features and assume his users know how to use them.

                            A hangover, maybe, but it is o so powerful. But with every powerful it should be used with care. #define is a dangerous tool in the hands of the unexperienced.:-D

                            codito ergo sum

                            C Offline
                            C Offline
                            Christian Graus
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #16

                            BadKarma wrote:

                            hangover, maybe, but it is o so powerful.

                            I agree with Stroustrup. I try to avoid using it whever I can, I think it's a poor tool. But, it is powerful, and no doubt can be used effectively at times.

                            Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • C cp9876

                              To make the most of your coding experience, you probably should try: To save testing: #define true false this always happens anyway: #define this NULL to avoid accidental deletion #define delete /##/ avoid wasting loop iterations: #define break continue just in case the others are boring: #define try do #define catch while

                              Peter "Until the invention of the computer, the machine gun was the device that enabled humans to make the most mistakes in the smallest amount of time."

                              M Offline
                              M Offline
                              Mark Salsbery
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #17

                              EXCELLENT! These fixed a bunch of my problems. Thanks!

                              "Posting a VB.NET question in the C++ forum will end in tears." Chris Maunder

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              Reply
                              • Reply as topic
                              Log in to reply
                              • Oldest to Newest
                              • Newest to Oldest
                              • Most Votes


                              • Login

                              • Don't have an account? Register

                              • Login or register to search.
                              • First post
                                Last post
                              0
                              • Categories
                              • Recent
                              • Tags
                              • Popular
                              • World
                              • Users
                              • Groups