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  • C Chris Losinger

    somehow, Vista lost track of the printer driver for the network printer i use at work. so, every time i tried to print, it would tell me i had to install the driver. "Fine," says me, "Go install the fncking driver and trouble me no more!" “The specified print monitor is unknown," says Vista. "WTF?" Says me. Google. Google. Google. Bingo! Turns out that No, you can't install a printer driver from a remote server if the UAC is _dis_abled. That's right, _dis_abling the UAC _de_creases what you can do with your computer. That's the complete opposite of everything else the UAC does; i.e. _dis_abling the UAC gives you more control, in all other cases; in this case, _en_abling the UAC gives you more control !? :laugh: Of course, nothing about any of the error messages even hint that you need to _de_crease your priv's to fix the problem. No, but I guess that's why Vista ships with a web browser, so you can search Google with the text of your error messages. That's totally awesome! Thanks Vista!

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    Luca Leonardo Scorcia
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    Wasn't the main aim of UAC to force developers to work with low privileges, so that Vista 2.0 could bend it into something more useful, and thus having applications ready for Vista 2.0? Mission accomplished! :-D Yeah, I try to see positive sides everywhere... ;P

    Luca The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance.

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    • C Chris Losinger

      somehow, Vista lost track of the printer driver for the network printer i use at work. so, every time i tried to print, it would tell me i had to install the driver. "Fine," says me, "Go install the fncking driver and trouble me no more!" “The specified print monitor is unknown," says Vista. "WTF?" Says me. Google. Google. Google. Bingo! Turns out that No, you can't install a printer driver from a remote server if the UAC is _dis_abled. That's right, _dis_abling the UAC _de_creases what you can do with your computer. That's the complete opposite of everything else the UAC does; i.e. _dis_abling the UAC gives you more control, in all other cases; in this case, _en_abling the UAC gives you more control !? :laugh: Of course, nothing about any of the error messages even hint that you need to _de_crease your priv's to fix the problem. No, but I guess that's why Vista ships with a web browser, so you can search Google with the text of your error messages. That's totally awesome! Thanks Vista!

      image processing toolkits | batch image processing | blogging

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      Raj Lal
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      Chris Losinger wrote:

      "WTF?" Says me.

      You have to say WOW because WOW starts ... ;P

      Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


      Vista? Photoshop Preview Handler here

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      • C Chris Losinger

        somehow, Vista lost track of the printer driver for the network printer i use at work. so, every time i tried to print, it would tell me i had to install the driver. "Fine," says me, "Go install the fncking driver and trouble me no more!" “The specified print monitor is unknown," says Vista. "WTF?" Says me. Google. Google. Google. Bingo! Turns out that No, you can't install a printer driver from a remote server if the UAC is _dis_abled. That's right, _dis_abling the UAC _de_creases what you can do with your computer. That's the complete opposite of everything else the UAC does; i.e. _dis_abling the UAC gives you more control, in all other cases; in this case, _en_abling the UAC gives you more control !? :laugh: Of course, nothing about any of the error messages even hint that you need to _de_crease your priv's to fix the problem. No, but I guess that's why Vista ships with a web browser, so you can search Google with the text of your error messages. That's totally awesome! Thanks Vista!

        image processing toolkits | batch image processing | blogging

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        bob16972
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        I'm about ready to pull my hair out here with Vista. I've about Googled myself to death trying to adapt to it but nothing is at it appears.

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        • C Chris Losinger

          somehow, Vista lost track of the printer driver for the network printer i use at work. so, every time i tried to print, it would tell me i had to install the driver. "Fine," says me, "Go install the fncking driver and trouble me no more!" “The specified print monitor is unknown," says Vista. "WTF?" Says me. Google. Google. Google. Bingo! Turns out that No, you can't install a printer driver from a remote server if the UAC is _dis_abled. That's right, _dis_abling the UAC _de_creases what you can do with your computer. That's the complete opposite of everything else the UAC does; i.e. _dis_abling the UAC gives you more control, in all other cases; in this case, _en_abling the UAC gives you more control !? :laugh: Of course, nothing about any of the error messages even hint that you need to _de_crease your priv's to fix the problem. No, but I guess that's why Vista ships with a web browser, so you can search Google with the text of your error messages. That's totally awesome! Thanks Vista!

          image processing toolkits | batch image processing | blogging

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          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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          Is a rocket scientist diploma required just to get to the UI for installing printers? (I have not yet tried...)

          -- Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

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          • C Chris Losinger

            somehow, Vista lost track of the printer driver for the network printer i use at work. so, every time i tried to print, it would tell me i had to install the driver. "Fine," says me, "Go install the fncking driver and trouble me no more!" “The specified print monitor is unknown," says Vista. "WTF?" Says me. Google. Google. Google. Bingo! Turns out that No, you can't install a printer driver from a remote server if the UAC is _dis_abled. That's right, _dis_abling the UAC _de_creases what you can do with your computer. That's the complete opposite of everything else the UAC does; i.e. _dis_abling the UAC gives you more control, in all other cases; in this case, _en_abling the UAC gives you more control !? :laugh: Of course, nothing about any of the error messages even hint that you need to _de_crease your priv's to fix the problem. No, but I guess that's why Vista ships with a web browser, so you can search Google with the text of your error messages. That's totally awesome! Thanks Vista!

            image processing toolkits | batch image processing | blogging

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            Anton Afanasyev
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            Chris Losinger wrote:

            right, disabling the UAC decreases what you can do with your computer.

            Did you try instaling drivers as admin, or not? In my short experience with Vista, and UAC bein _dis_abled, most things work if I run programs under an administrative account, and where possible click "Run as Administrator" or similar.


            :badger:

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              Chris Losinger wrote:

              right, disabling the UAC decreases what you can do with your computer.

              Did you try instaling drivers as admin, or not? In my short experience with Vista, and UAC bein _dis_abled, most things work if I run programs under an administrative account, and where possible click "Run as Administrator" or similar.


              :badger:

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              Anton Afanasyev wrote:

              Did you try instaling drivers as admin, or not?

              i installed from the only account i have. i assume it has admin rights, but it might not. if installing printer drivers for networked printers requires everyone in a corporate setting to call the IT guy, MS has screwed-up even worse than i imagined. and none of that has anything (that i can see) to do with the fact that you can install remote printer drivers if you turn the UAC on.

              Anton Afanasyev wrote:

              where possible click "Run as Administrator" or similar

              there's no such option when adding a printer and installing printer drivers.

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                Chris Losinger wrote:

                "WTF?" Says me.

                You have to say WOW because WOW starts ... ;P

                Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


                Vista? Photoshop Preview Handler here

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                Ath1
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                WOW as in Why Oh Why? ;P

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                • C Chris Losinger

                  Anton Afanasyev wrote:

                  Did you try instaling drivers as admin, or not?

                  i installed from the only account i have. i assume it has admin rights, but it might not. if installing printer drivers for networked printers requires everyone in a corporate setting to call the IT guy, MS has screwed-up even worse than i imagined. and none of that has anything (that i can see) to do with the fact that you can install remote printer drivers if you turn the UAC on.

                  Anton Afanasyev wrote:

                  where possible click "Run as Administrator" or similar

                  there's no such option when adding a printer and installing printer drivers.

                  image processing toolkits | batch image processing | blogging

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                  Paul A Howes
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                  OS X is looking better and better by comparison. :rolleyes:

                  -- Paul

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                  • B bob16972

                    I'm about ready to pull my hair out here with Vista. I've about Googled myself to death trying to adapt to it but nothing is at it appears.

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                    AllanRose
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                    I jut paid the money to get "Ultimate" :mad: and loaded Virtual PC so that I could load OS's I could actually get some work done with. I just consider Vista a part of the boot process now.... I keep telling myself that it will get useful at some point.... won't it? Al

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                    • C Chris Losinger

                      Anton Afanasyev wrote:

                      Did you try instaling drivers as admin, or not?

                      i installed from the only account i have. i assume it has admin rights, but it might not. if installing printer drivers for networked printers requires everyone in a corporate setting to call the IT guy, MS has screwed-up even worse than i imagined. and none of that has anything (that i can see) to do with the fact that you can install remote printer drivers if you turn the UAC on.

                      Anton Afanasyev wrote:

                      where possible click "Run as Administrator" or similar

                      there's no such option when adding a printer and installing printer drivers.

                      image processing toolkits | batch image processing | blogging

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                      Richard Jones
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                      Chris Losinger wrote:

                      i installed from the only account i have

                      XP has an administrator account, even though you can't see it from the Switch User screen. Maybe Vista has this also. (also, the administrator account is useful during boot to console)

                      Chris Losinger wrote:

                      installing printer drivers for networked printers requires everyone in a corporate setting to call the IT guy

                      This is standard for our corporation. We don't want anyone messing up printer drivers, or calling us complaining their printer won't work properly when they installed it wrong.

                      He was a snowflake, like other "unique" snowflakes, falling down, getting stepped on, and pushed aside to disappear.

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                      • C Chris Losinger

                        Anton Afanasyev wrote:

                        Did you try instaling drivers as admin, or not?

                        i installed from the only account i have. i assume it has admin rights, but it might not. if installing printer drivers for networked printers requires everyone in a corporate setting to call the IT guy, MS has screwed-up even worse than i imagined. and none of that has anything (that i can see) to do with the fact that you can install remote printer drivers if you turn the UAC on.

                        Anton Afanasyev wrote:

                        where possible click "Run as Administrator" or similar

                        there's no such option when adding a printer and installing printer drivers.

                        image processing toolkits | batch image processing | blogging

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                        Gabriel Graves
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                        In vista, to get Admin rights without UAC, I believe you have to open control panel in admin (Make short-cut to control panel and mess with properties to make it always need admin). I'm not sure how this will work because I actually prefer UAC as I have gotten use to it and it doesn't popup every minute like Vista is being smashed about. Vista is aimed at home users that really don't need to change the computer daily!

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                        • A AllanRose

                          I jut paid the money to get "Ultimate" :mad: and loaded Virtual PC so that I could load OS's I could actually get some work done with. I just consider Vista a part of the boot process now.... I keep telling myself that it will get useful at some point.... won't it? Al

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                          JMOdom
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                          "I just consider Vista a part of the boot process now.... I keep telling myself that it will get useful at some point.... won't it? " Thats a nice thought. Everyone should have some kind of a dream. ;P

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