IE7 First Impressions
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I've only just started using it at work after starting a new contract. I use FF at home and haven't yet upgraded IE6. A bit difficult to do a fair comparison because I'm so used to the FF extensions. But even without them FF seems to be better implemented. To take just two features: 1. The Downloads Manager. 2. Incremental Find.
Kevin
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I've only just started using it at work after starting a new contract. I use FF at home and haven't yet upgraded IE6. A bit difficult to do a fair comparison because I'm so used to the FF extensions. But even without them FF seems to be better implemented. To take just two features: 1. The Downloads Manager. 2. Incremental Find.
Kevin
Kevin McFarlane wrote:
2. Incremental Find.
Love FF's find. Miss it in just about every other app now. "Don't cover the text you're searching with a dialog" - brilliant!
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Kevin McFarlane wrote:
2. Incremental Find.
Love FF's find. Miss it in just about every other app now. "Don't cover the text you're searching with a dialog" - brilliant!
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It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.
--Raymond Chen on MSDN
Nonesense. I love how Word's Find dialog jumps around on you when you're searching for something. I also love other apps that use a modal dialog so the search is practically useless unless you close it, if it found the right instance. FF has it wrong. It's just not normal. Normal is right.
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I've only just started using it at work after starting a new contract. I use FF at home and haven't yet upgraded IE6. A bit difficult to do a fair comparison because I'm so used to the FF extensions. But even without them FF seems to be better implemented. To take just two features: 1. The Downloads Manager. 2. Incremental Find.
Kevin
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I've only just started using it at work after starting a new contract. I use FF at home and haven't yet upgraded IE6. A bit difficult to do a fair comparison because I'm so used to the FF extensions. But even without them FF seems to be better implemented. To take just two features: 1. The Downloads Manager. 2. Incremental Find.
Kevin
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Kevin McFarlane wrote:
2. Incremental Find.
Love FF's find. Miss it in just about every other app now. "Don't cover the text you're searching with a dialog" - brilliant!
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It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.
--Raymond Chen on MSDN
and it doesn't have that idiotic "Up/Down" disfunctionality, like IE6! it's nice to see that they finally moved away from the state of the art 1985, with IE7.
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Welcome to 2007! :) There's so little to choose between them it's kind of a moot point isn't it?
"110%" - it's the new 70%
If I were to add the whole FF experience plus the whole IE experience, i.e., including add-ons and extensions I would imagine there's more than a little to choose between them. I gather the IE add-ons are not as rich as those for FF.
Kevin
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I've only just started using it at work after starting a new contract. I use FF at home and haven't yet upgraded IE6. A bit difficult to do a fair comparison because I'm so used to the FF extensions. But even without them FF seems to be better implemented. To take just two features: 1. The Downloads Manager. 2. Incremental Find.
Kevin
I think IE7 is a jumbled mess compared to IE6. Microsoft likes to change things for the sake of change and nothing more. All they did was change the locations of the icons you use all the time --- and WHY? It doesn't stand up very well compared to FF.
John P.
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I think IE7 is a jumbled mess compared to IE6. Microsoft likes to change things for the sake of change and nothing more. All they did was change the locations of the icons you use all the time --- and WHY? It doesn't stand up very well compared to FF.
John P.
I haven't cared enough to really look at it, it does the job. But I do know from personal experience they made *HUGE* positive changes to the javascript engine in IE7. We recommend IE7 to our asp.net customers because the difference with a fairly heavy asp.net application (even with heavily optimized javascript) is incredible compared to IE6.
"110%" - it's the new 70%
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I think IE7 is a jumbled mess compared to IE6. Microsoft likes to change things for the sake of change and nothing more. All they did was change the locations of the icons you use all the time --- and WHY? It doesn't stand up very well compared to FF.
John P.
jparken wrote:
Microsoft likes to change things for the sake of change and nothing more.
Yes, it's an annoying habit of theirs. Every so often they hit on something that's well-implemented. They keep it for a while and then they change it (or remove it) for no good reason. VS 2005 has a fair sprinkling of usability regressions, for example. Having said that, IE 7 seems OK - just not as good as FF.
Kevin
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I've only just started using it at work after starting a new contract. I use FF at home and haven't yet upgraded IE6. A bit difficult to do a fair comparison because I'm so used to the FF extensions. But even without them FF seems to be better implemented. To take just two features: 1. The Downloads Manager. 2. Incremental Find.
Kevin
I've been using it about six months. I like the tab interface but wish it could move to the bottom. I hate the back button, it took about 2 months to stop hitting it when I was trying to select the File menu. What idjit decided to put it above the menu? I like the built-in popup blocker. I think moving the HTTPS security lock was stupid. We've had dozens of conversations from customers "you're website is not secure. It doesn't have the lock" to which we respond "are you using IE7? They moved the lock". I don't like delete all in the delete browsing history function. I clicked it accidently once and blew away all my cookies and stored passwords. The version I'm using 7.0.5730.11 has a lot of problems with PDF files, Javascripts, and Flash. I get 2 or 3 crashes a day.
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I've been using it about six months. I like the tab interface but wish it could move to the bottom. I hate the back button, it took about 2 months to stop hitting it when I was trying to select the File menu. What idjit decided to put it above the menu? I like the built-in popup blocker. I think moving the HTTPS security lock was stupid. We've had dozens of conversations from customers "you're website is not secure. It doesn't have the lock" to which we respond "are you using IE7? They moved the lock". I don't like delete all in the delete browsing history function. I clicked it accidently once and blew away all my cookies and stored passwords. The version I'm using 7.0.5730.11 has a lot of problems with PDF files, Javascripts, and Flash. I get 2 or 3 crashes a day.
I agree about the Back button - it drives me nuts! That's when I can actually *find* it on the screen - To the left of the URL would have been much more intuitive.
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I've been using it about six months. I like the tab interface but wish it could move to the bottom. I hate the back button, it took about 2 months to stop hitting it when I was trying to select the File menu. What idjit decided to put it above the menu? I like the built-in popup blocker. I think moving the HTTPS security lock was stupid. We've had dozens of conversations from customers "you're website is not secure. It doesn't have the lock" to which we respond "are you using IE7? They moved the lock". I don't like delete all in the delete browsing history function. I clicked it accidently once and blew away all my cookies and stored passwords. The version I'm using 7.0.5730.11 has a lot of problems with PDF files, Javascripts, and Flash. I get 2 or 3 crashes a day.
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
The version I'm using 7.0.5730.11 has a lot of problems with PDF files, Javascripts, and Flash. I get 2 or 3 crashes a day.
Update to newest Adobe Reader, Sun Java and Adobe Flash, or uninstall them or block them in Manage Add-Ons. Older versions aren't compatible with IE 7.0. Also consider using Foxit Reader rather than Adobe's junk. Likewise QuickTime and Real Player, which you should be constantly on top of because they regularly have security updates too.
Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder
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Ed Gadziemski wrote:
The version I'm using 7.0.5730.11 has a lot of problems with PDF files, Javascripts, and Flash. I get 2 or 3 crashes a day.
Update to newest Adobe Reader, Sun Java and Adobe Flash, or uninstall them or block them in Manage Add-Ons. Older versions aren't compatible with IE 7.0. Also consider using Foxit Reader rather than Adobe's junk. Likewise QuickTime and Real Player, which you should be constantly on top of because they regularly have security updates too.
Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder
Mike Dimmick wrote:
Update to newest Adobe Reader ... and Adobe Flash
My system shutdown problems started with the latest Adobe Reader version 7.0.9. V6 worked better and I would drop back to it if some of the PDF forms I use didn't require V7. I'm also currently running Flash 9 and just had an IE7 crash with a single browser window opened to Code Project. Just installed Flash 9.0.45 and guess what? SOB installed Google toolbar. I don't want no stinkin' Google toolbar, so now I need to uninstall that. When will the idjits that write these installs get it through their fat heads to ASK BEFORE YOU INSTALL SOMETHING I MAY NOT WANT!!!!!!