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  • M Mike Gaskey

    it'll never happen. the Constituition would have to be amended and ages of precedent ignored.

    Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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    Lost User
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    Mike Gaskey wrote:

    it'll never happen.

    Lets hope. Stan Shannon would disagree with you though. He thinks the Constitution is irrelevant and meaningless to local and state governments.

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    • M Mike Gaskey

      condemnation - but, geez, we sure like hearing your opinions.[^] - they just couldn't quite find a way to say, "it was Bush's fault".

      Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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      peterchen
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      We just don't get it, ok? You have crazies slaughtering your children, but nah, everyone must get a gun otherwise the gubment would raise taxes. :sigh:


      We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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      • P peterchen

        We just don't get it, ok? You have crazies slaughtering your children, but nah, everyone must get a gun otherwise the gubment would raise taxes. :sigh:


        We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
        My first real C# project | Linkify!|FoldWithUs! | sighist

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        Rob Graham
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        peterchen wrote:

        We just don't get it, ok?

        You're absolutely right. Your second sentence clearly demonstrates that you don't get it.

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        • M Mike Gaskey

          condemnation - but, geez, we sure like hearing your opinions.[^] - they just couldn't quite find a way to say, "it was Bush's fault".

          Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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          oilFactotum
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          "The French daily Le Monde said the regularity of mass shootings across the Atlantic was a blotch on America's image. " So true. "It would be unjust and especially false to reduce the United States to the image created, in a recurrent way, from the bursts of murderous fury that some isolated individuals succumb to. But acts like this are rare elsewhere, and tend to often disfigure the 'American dream.'" Also true.

          Mike Gaskey wrote:

          they just couldn't quite find a way to say, "it was Bush's fault".

          They didn't, so why do you even bring it up? Oh, I get it. You R's are just poor helpless victims of the evil leftist conspiracy.:rolleyes:

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            We just don't get it, ok? You have crazies slaughtering your children, but nah, everyone must get a gun otherwise the gubment would raise taxes. :sigh:


            We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
            My first real C# project | Linkify!|FoldWithUs! | sighist

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            Shog9 0
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            peterchen wrote:

            You have crazies slaughtering your children, but nah, everyone must get a gun otherwise the gubment would raise taxes.

            The Gubment does raise taxes. So obviously that's not the motivation. It's more like, "we're being taxed / regulated to death - we should at least get guns!" :rolleyes: Personally, i think it's sort of a symbolic thing, like a king's scepter. At some point though, the king became a figurehead, and the impotent former ruler looked sadly at the thing in his hand and began to methodically bash his head in.

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            • O oilFactotum

              "The French daily Le Monde said the regularity of mass shootings across the Atlantic was a blotch on America's image. " So true. "It would be unjust and especially false to reduce the United States to the image created, in a recurrent way, from the bursts of murderous fury that some isolated individuals succumb to. But acts like this are rare elsewhere, and tend to often disfigure the 'American dream.'" Also true.

              Mike Gaskey wrote:

              they just couldn't quite find a way to say, "it was Bush's fault".

              They didn't, so why do you even bring it up? Oh, I get it. You R's are just poor helpless victims of the evil leftist conspiracy.:rolleyes:

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              jim_taylor
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              It's perfectly understandable. The French have no guns so no one gets shot. The just have their cars set on fire, and then they get stabbed to death when they onject. Seems perfectly reasonble to me - from a French point of view. JimT

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                peterchen wrote:

                You have crazies slaughtering your children, but nah, everyone must get a gun otherwise the gubment would raise taxes.

                The Gubment does raise taxes. So obviously that's not the motivation. It's more like, "we're being taxed / regulated to death - we should at least get guns!" :rolleyes: Personally, i think it's sort of a symbolic thing, like a king's scepter. At some point though, the king became a figurehead, and the impotent former ruler looked sadly at the thing in his hand and began to methodically bash his head in.

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                --Raymond Chen on MSDN

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                Dan Neely
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                Shog9 wrote:

                Personally, i think it's sort of a symbolic thing, like a king's scepter. At some point though, the king became a figurehead, and the impotent former ruler looked sadly at the thing in his hand and began to methodically bash his head in.

                The end result of the process is the unending tabloid fodder that are the British Royals. X|

                -- CleaKO The sad part about this instance is that none of the users ever said anything [about the problem]. Pete O`Hanlon Doesn't that just tell you everything you need to know about users?

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                • M Mike Gaskey

                  it'll never happen. the Constituition would have to be amended and ages of precedent ignored.

                  Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                  Christian Graus
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                  Or, a common sense reading of the constitution will prevail.

                  Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                  • M Mike Gaskey

                    condemnation - but, geez, we sure like hearing your opinions.[^] - they just couldn't quite find a way to say, "it was Bush's fault".

                    Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                    Christian Graus
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                    It is true that there's more to the problem that guns, Canadians are armed without killing each other at the rate Americans do, but, by the same token, it is also true that the US gun culture is *insane*.

                    Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      Or, a common sense reading of the constitution will prevail.

                      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                      Mike Gaskey
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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      Or, a common sense reading of the constitution will prevail.

                      it has.

                      Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                      • O oilFactotum

                        "The French daily Le Monde said the regularity of mass shootings across the Atlantic was a blotch on America's image. " So true. "It would be unjust and especially false to reduce the United States to the image created, in a recurrent way, from the bursts of murderous fury that some isolated individuals succumb to. But acts like this are rare elsewhere, and tend to often disfigure the 'American dream.'" Also true.

                        Mike Gaskey wrote:

                        they just couldn't quite find a way to say, "it was Bush's fault".

                        They didn't, so why do you even bring it up? Oh, I get it. You R's are just poor helpless victims of the evil leftist conspiracy.:rolleyes:

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                        Mike Gaskey
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                        oilFactotum wrote:

                        They didn't, so why do you even bring it up? Oh, I get it. You R's are just poor helpless victims of the evil leftist conspiracy.

                        if you actually read the article you would have seen the reference.

                        Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                        • C Christian Graus

                          It is true that there's more to the problem that guns, Canadians are armed without killing each other at the rate Americans do, but, by the same token, it is also true that the US gun culture is *insane*.

                          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                          Mike Gaskey
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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          it is also true that the US gun culture is *insane*.

                          I disagree, I believe the problem, if you want to generalize, a a total lack of respect for life.

                          Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                            peterchen wrote:

                            You have crazies slaughtering your children, but nah, everyone must get a gun otherwise the gubment would raise taxes.

                            The Gubment does raise taxes. So obviously that's not the motivation. It's more like, "we're being taxed / regulated to death - we should at least get guns!" :rolleyes: Personally, i think it's sort of a symbolic thing, like a king's scepter. At some point though, the king became a figurehead, and the impotent former ruler looked sadly at the thing in his hand and began to methodically bash his head in.

                            ----

                            It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.

                            --Raymond Chen on MSDN

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                            peterchen
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                            Shog9 wrote:

                            Personally, i think it's sort of a symbolic thing, like a king's scepter.

                            It looks like, but still.


                            We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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                              peterchen wrote:

                              We just don't get it, ok?

                              You're absolutely right. Your second sentence clearly demonstrates that you don't get it.

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                              peterchen
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                              :yawn:


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                              • M Mike Gaskey

                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                it is also true that the US gun culture is *insane*.

                                I disagree, I believe the problem, if you want to generalize, a a total lack of respect for life.

                                Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                                Christian Graus
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                                Like I said, the problem is more than just guns. Or, are you saying that this disrespect for life is worldwide, but only Americans have guns to act on it ? Like I said, Canadians have guns without the slaughter. But, yes, obviously if there was respect for life, the guns wouldn't make a difference to the equation.

                                Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                                • C Christian Graus

                                  It is true that there's more to the problem that guns, Canadians are armed without killing each other at the rate Americans do, but, by the same token, it is also true that the US gun culture is *insane*.

                                  Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                                  peterchen
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                                  But what is that "culture? The idea that guns solve problems? That guns are fun?


                                  We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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                                  • M Mike Gaskey

                                    Christian Graus wrote:

                                    Or, a common sense reading of the constitution will prevail.

                                    it has.

                                    Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                                    Christian Graus
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                                    When did this occur ? So, "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." is now recognised to be ridiculous in a day and age where a 'well regulated militia' is a foolish notion ? Or, are gun nuts continuing to cling to an outdated view of the world in order to defend their insanity ? 'I got me a rifle, no-one will ever invade the USA while I've got this here rifle'

                                    Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                                    • P peterchen

                                      But what is that "culture? The idea that guns solve problems? That guns are fun?


                                      We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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                                      Christian Graus
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                                      Just the idea that they have the right to a gun, and that a gun protects their freedom.

                                      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                                      • M Mike Gaskey

                                        Christian Graus wrote:

                                        it is also true that the US gun culture is *insane*.

                                        I disagree, I believe the problem, if you want to generalize, a a total lack of respect for life.

                                        Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                                        peterchen
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                                        Mike Gaskey wrote:

                                        I believe the problem, if you want to generalize, a a total lack of respect for life.

                                        That would surely do, but it sounds awfully close to "this world would be a better place if we'd just leanr to love each other". Not that i have a problem with that, but it's not youe usual argument :)


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                                        • C Christian Graus

                                          It is true that there's more to the problem that guns, Canadians are armed without killing each other at the rate Americans do, but, by the same token, it is also true that the US gun culture is *insane*.

                                          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                                          jim_taylor
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                                          I'm not sure which "gun culture" you are referring to. We had a shooting here in Salt Lake City a while ago. It ended when an armed, off-duty policeman pulled his weapon and challenged the shooter. My dad taught me to shoot a rifle when I was ten. I hold a concealed-carry permit, although I don't own a weapon at the moment. At the last place I worked at least three people were known to be armed at all times, and I suspect that there were others among the sixteen employees who weren't saying. Statistically, in places where a person has to consider the possibility that the other guy may be carrying, the level of crime goes down. That's one gun culture. Then there is the culture my son-in-law lives in. I believe he owns a pistol, but I've never seen him carrying. There was a time when the only meat his family ate was what he killed. He's more prosperous now, but part of his prosperity comes through the many friends he has made over the years from hunting and fishing (he's a saleman). He is welcome on every farm within fifty miles (or more) of where he lives, even the ones that are posted. Again, there is the culture of New York City (for example), where the man who defends himself with a gun is the criminal (vide Goetz), and the criminals are the victims. Is that a problem with guns, or a weird inversion of right and wrong? I understand that it's even worse in England. Once more. I used to live in Dayton, OH, where many of my friends were from Kentucky. One of them told me of an interesting custome back home: When the whiskey comes out, the women go around the room collecting all the guns. They have some great fights, but no one gets killed. Again. When I was in high school we used to go to a little place northwest of New York City to go square dancing. The people in those hills had been living in isolation since the Revolution. Our dancing was ended when some flatlander game warden got himself killed trying to arrest someone for taking deer out of season. They never found the killer (I don't think they really tried very hard). The next time we went to the Eagle Valley Rest we were the only two couples in the place. We didn't feel welcome, though we had been before, and we never went back. Now, which gun culture were you talking about? The one where people are comfortable with guns and live with them day to day, or the one where people are terrified of them and have no idea how to behave when some nut starts waving one around? JimT

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