I have a Blackberry and it knows where I am
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I've finally done it. I have a blackberry. I swore to Dave that Hell would freeze over before this day happened but there you go. But mine has a GPS. And it's so cool. So very cool. I have absolutely no idea what I'm going to do with a device that doesn't seem to be supported by Vista and can only give me latitude and longitude, but I'm totally geeking out watching it aquire satelites. So I hear this thing can make phone calls and stuff too...
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
So very cool.
Golly gees Wally, I gona havta get Anut Bee to get me ones. Yep, for the record I'm from the South and I want this one Treo 750[^]
God Bless, Jason
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I've finally done it. I have a blackberry. I swore to Dave that Hell would freeze over before this day happened but there you go. But mine has a GPS. And it's so cool. So very cool. I have absolutely no idea what I'm going to do with a device that doesn't seem to be supported by Vista and can only give me latitude and longitude, but I'm totally geeking out watching it aquire satelites. So I hear this thing can make phone calls and stuff too...
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Sellout. You're now officially a cog in the corporate-industrial-military machine. :)
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I've finally done it. I have a blackberry. I swore to Dave that Hell would freeze over before this day happened but there you go. But mine has a GPS. And it's so cool. So very cool. I have absolutely no idea what I'm going to do with a device that doesn't seem to be supported by Vista and can only give me latitude and longitude, but I'm totally geeking out watching it aquire satelites. So I hear this thing can make phone calls and stuff too...
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
I spent a bunch on a Garmin unit and then discovered that the built in GPS in my phone is more accurate. Of course, both use long/lat and the world of GIS uses UTM, so both are relatively useless. The one and only cool thing I can think of is that the phone is the same one we use at work, and the field crews are in the habit of disappearing to spend an hour having breakfast. None of them knows that Nextel offers a cheap service that will allow the boss to locate all the phones via the Internet. I think it would be great to call the restaurant some morning and ask for them by name. Or at home, if the map shows them parked in the driveway when they should be working (it's happened).:-D
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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I spent a bunch on a Garmin unit and then discovered that the built in GPS in my phone is more accurate. Of course, both use long/lat and the world of GIS uses UTM, so both are relatively useless. The one and only cool thing I can think of is that the phone is the same one we use at work, and the field crews are in the habit of disappearing to spend an hour having breakfast. None of them knows that Nextel offers a cheap service that will allow the boss to locate all the phones via the Internet. I think it would be great to call the restaurant some morning and ask for them by name. Or at home, if the map shows them parked in the driveway when they should be working (it's happened).:-D
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
Roger Wright wrote:
and the world of GIS uses UTM, so both are relatively useless.
change the settings of the Garmin to report in UTM. The conversion from lat/long to UTM is relatively simple, as far as conversions go. :) For work I have to set my Garmin to UTM for some things, Geodetic for others. That was why I got the Garmin, choice in settings, you aren't stuck at lat/long. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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I've finally done it. I have a blackberry. I swore to Dave that Hell would freeze over before this day happened but there you go. But mine has a GPS. And it's so cool. So very cool. I have absolutely no idea what I'm going to do with a device that doesn't seem to be supported by Vista and can only give me latitude and longitude, but I'm totally geeking out watching it aquire satelites. So I hear this thing can make phone calls and stuff too...
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Always sad to see someone abandon their principles....
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I've finally done it. I have a blackberry. I swore to Dave that Hell would freeze over before this day happened but there you go. But mine has a GPS. And it's so cool. So very cool. I have absolutely no idea what I'm going to do with a device that doesn't seem to be supported by Vista and can only give me latitude and longitude, but I'm totally geeking out watching it aquire satelites. So I hear this thing can make phone calls and stuff too...
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
I have a blackberry
Hi my name is Chris Maunder and I have a Blackberry. Welcome Chris. I never thought I'd be here, but now that I am I'm happy to be supported by my friends. It's been 7 days since I geo-located myself with my 8800. We know how you feel Chris, and again welcome and well done.
David
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I spent a bunch on a Garmin unit and then discovered that the built in GPS in my phone is more accurate. Of course, both use long/lat and the world of GIS uses UTM, so both are relatively useless. The one and only cool thing I can think of is that the phone is the same one we use at work, and the field crews are in the habit of disappearing to spend an hour having breakfast. None of them knows that Nextel offers a cheap service that will allow the boss to locate all the phones via the Internet. I think it would be great to call the restaurant some morning and ask for them by name. Or at home, if the map shows them parked in the driveway when they should be working (it's happened).:-D
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
Roger Wright wrote:
Nextel offers a cheap service that will allow the boss to locate all the phones via the Internet
Do you have a link?
David
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Roger Wright wrote:
and the world of GIS uses UTM, so both are relatively useless.
change the settings of the Garmin to report in UTM. The conversion from lat/long to UTM is relatively simple, as far as conversions go. :) For work I have to set my Garmin to UTM for some things, Geodetic for others. That was why I got the Garmin, choice in settings, you aren't stuck at lat/long. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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This is new to me: submeter GPS Is that real?
David
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This is new to me: submeter GPS Is that real?
David
Yup, but it's pricey. We use sub-foot GPS for surveying on the reservation, but that requires a base station and presurveyed benchmarks. For a handheld, this baby is the best value I've found. There's a model that's even more accurate, but the price goes up significantly.
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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This is new to me: submeter GPS Is that real?
David
David Cunningham wrote:
submeter GPS
yes, but phones are not usually satellite based GPS, although the math is the same, the distances are less. GPS is based on multiple satellite signals being received, combined with distance and location, you get a rough location via overlapping spheres. Elevation is the most difficult. The more horizon satellites the more accurate your location is. The more satellites in the solution, the more accurate your location is. My Garmin generally provides 6ft(2m) with WAAS, 12-18ft without WAAS. Most phones use overlapping cellular tower signals for location, and some use it as a WAAS to improve satellite location. The process is the same, and the message/calculations are the same, but the transport is via the cell. Cross-timings for distance/location are much easier from surface to surface than from orbit to surface.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Roger Wright wrote:
What I really want is one of these[^]!
They are nice, we have two for surveying. But the garmin is still handy because it is faster and more portable -- with the external antenna we get 2 meter accuracy and can take it anywhere. Plus with the magnetic mounting, we can put the antenna on things to measure their location, even 20feet in the air. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Yup, but it's pricey. We use sub-foot GPS for surveying on the reservation, but that requires a base station and presurveyed benchmarks. For a handheld, this baby is the best value I've found. There's a model that's even more accurate, but the price goes up significantly.
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
Roger Wright wrote:
but the price goes up significantly.
I would say that is pretty near an understatement. The price goes up near exponentially!
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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David Cunningham wrote:
submeter GPS
yes, but phones are not usually satellite based GPS, although the math is the same, the distances are less. GPS is based on multiple satellite signals being received, combined with distance and location, you get a rough location via overlapping spheres. Elevation is the most difficult. The more horizon satellites the more accurate your location is. The more satellites in the solution, the more accurate your location is. My Garmin generally provides 6ft(2m) with WAAS, 12-18ft without WAAS. Most phones use overlapping cellular tower signals for location, and some use it as a WAAS to improve satellite location. The process is the same, and the message/calculations are the same, but the transport is via the cell. Cross-timings for distance/location are much easier from surface to surface than from orbit to surface.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
I understand but didn't realize that it had evolved to that point yet.
David
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I understand but didn't realize that it had evolved to that point yet.
David
David Cunningham wrote:
I understand but didn't realize that it had evolved to that point yet.
Actually it did when the cellular companies figured out that they could use all those overlapping cells (even competitors and roam signals) as triangulation signals. It was in everyone's best interest to embed the same signal, though a few debated on changing it, still they would loose out on taking advantage of others.... so in the end it was settled, everyone used the same signal, so you are picking up all the cells on the same wavelength even from competitors for locating. :) when you loose signal, you loose position, unless you have one that also does satellite based GPS position. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Chris Maunder wrote:
I have a blackberry
Hi my name is Chris Maunder and I have a Blackberry. Welcome Chris. I never thought I'd be here, but now that I am I'm happy to be supported by my friends. It's been 7 days since I geo-located myself with my 8800. We know how you feel Chris, and again welcome and well done.
David
David Cunningham wrote:
Hi my name is Chris Maunder and I have a Blackberry.
Am I the last holdout for this technology? or am I disqualified because I have access to many other cool stuff? :laugh:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Roger Wright wrote:
Nextel offers a cheap service that will allow the boss to locate all the phones via the Internet
Do you have a link?
David
You know that if I find out you have the link I'm going to loan my phone to friends so I can mess with your mind.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Roger Wright wrote:
What I really want is one of these[^]!
They are nice, we have two for surveying. But the garmin is still handy because it is faster and more portable -- with the external antenna we get 2 meter accuracy and can take it anywhere. Plus with the magnetic mounting, we can put the antenna on things to measure their location, even 20feet in the air. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
I know I ask you this every 6 months, but what would you recommend that would allow me to carry it on a bike and get accurate 3D data so I can chart the hill climbs I've done? Battery life must be >5 hrs and must be water resistant and lightweight.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote:
I have a blackberry
Hi my name is Chris Maunder and I have a Blackberry. Welcome Chris. I never thought I'd be here, but now that I am I'm happy to be supported by my friends. It's been 7 days since I geo-located myself with my 8800. We know how you feel Chris, and again welcome and well done.
David
Based on the circumstances of me aquiring my phone you realise that it will never, ever work correctly and that I will end up cursing it to the seven hells. I also know you are expecting me to walk into your office tomorrow or Wednesday admiting that the phone is suboptimal in some esoteric but incredibly important (to me) feature. Yes, I am high maintantance :D
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP