A saddening report
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Stephen Hewitt wrote:
I'm a smoker.
Wow, me too! :rolleyes:
Stephen Hewitt wrote:
I have no problem with cigs being expensive
I think you are in the minority there.
Stephen Hewitt wrote:
they should be!
No they shouldn't
Stephen Hewitt wrote:
Just because my personal financial situation would benefit from cheaper cigs doesn’t mean the government is wrong in taxing them so heavily.
Oh yes they are. Its my business if I want to smoke. I don't want the government trying to control what I take into my lungs or anything else for that matter. I don't want to give the government my hard earned money and I will no longer do so when I buy my cigarettes. I just bought a carton of Marlboros for 32 bucks including shipping. Thats 2.13 a pack. Actually it may be 3.20, I used to buy 1 pack at a time at my local store so I don't know how many are in a carton, I think its 10 or 15. People can run their own lives, we don't need the government telling us what to do or controlling us with heavy taxes on certain items. They are just taking advantage of those who are addicted to smoking. Its almost like taxing water or food.
Stephen Hewitt wrote:
There are many things to take into account such the toll smokers exert on the healthcare system.
The money goes to other things, such as those stupid commercials. It would be much wiser to allow the smoker to keep his/her money and spend it on his/her own health care or more important things such as food. Pretty soon they will start taxing sugar and fatty foods. If the government continues with its insanity I will grow my own tobacco and smoke it with a pipe. I remember you also believe the government should tax fuel. You just don't get it do you? How can you allow such terrible bullshit? They say the price of gas here will reach 4 dollars a gallon this summer which is absolutely ridiculous. I think its time for protests if that happens. The oil companies are ripping us off, the supply of fuel has not changed significantly enough to justify the price. Now with those prices do you still think it is wise for the government to tax it?
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Captain See Sharp wrote:
Wow, me too!
I wasn't bragging: my point was to show that although I'm a smoker like you, I'm not blind to the larger issue and can look at it without personal bias. Your logic seems to go something like this: “Boo fucking hoo, I’m a smoker but government taxes on smokes make them expensive, so fuck the government. I'm going to secede and form my own country.” Well here’s a news flash, it’s not all about you.
Steve
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Stephen Hewitt wrote:
I'm a smoker.
Wow, me too! :rolleyes:
Stephen Hewitt wrote:
I have no problem with cigs being expensive
I think you are in the minority there.
Stephen Hewitt wrote:
they should be!
No they shouldn't
Stephen Hewitt wrote:
Just because my personal financial situation would benefit from cheaper cigs doesn’t mean the government is wrong in taxing them so heavily.
Oh yes they are. Its my business if I want to smoke. I don't want the government trying to control what I take into my lungs or anything else for that matter. I don't want to give the government my hard earned money and I will no longer do so when I buy my cigarettes. I just bought a carton of Marlboros for 32 bucks including shipping. Thats 2.13 a pack. Actually it may be 3.20, I used to buy 1 pack at a time at my local store so I don't know how many are in a carton, I think its 10 or 15. People can run their own lives, we don't need the government telling us what to do or controlling us with heavy taxes on certain items. They are just taking advantage of those who are addicted to smoking. Its almost like taxing water or food.
Stephen Hewitt wrote:
There are many things to take into account such the toll smokers exert on the healthcare system.
The money goes to other things, such as those stupid commercials. It would be much wiser to allow the smoker to keep his/her money and spend it on his/her own health care or more important things such as food. Pretty soon they will start taxing sugar and fatty foods. If the government continues with its insanity I will grow my own tobacco and smoke it with a pipe. I remember you also believe the government should tax fuel. You just don't get it do you? How can you allow such terrible bullshit? They say the price of gas here will reach 4 dollars a gallon this summer which is absolutely ridiculous. I think its time for protests if that happens. The oil companies are ripping us off, the supply of fuel has not changed significantly enough to justify the price. Now with those prices do you still think it is wise for the government to tax it?
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Im a smoker too and while I'd rather have free ciggies Im happy for the government to tax it. We are responsible for our own addictions and should pay the cost of them Im also happy that our government tax petrol. That way the people that make the most use of our roads pay the majority of the cost of maintaining them
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Captain See Sharp wrote:
Wow, me too!
I wasn't bragging: my point was to show that although I'm a smoker like you, I'm not blind to the larger issue and can look at it without personal bias. Your logic seems to go something like this: “Boo fucking hoo, I’m a smoker but government taxes on smokes make them expensive, so fuck the government. I'm going to secede and form my own country.” Well here’s a news flash, it’s not all about you.
Steve
Stephen Hewitt wrote:
Your logic seems to go something like this: “Boo f****ing hoo, I’m a smoker but government taxes on smokes make them expensive, so f*** the government”. Well here’s a news flash, it’s not all about you.
No NO NO!!! Your not getting the point at all. To me, this seems to be an abuse of power, it's outrageous, it's unconstitutional and a form of harassment, oppression and discrimination. It's absolutely despicable to say the very least!!! We smokers need to take a stand NOW! This has gone beyond too far, it's way over the top and it's got to stop!
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Stephen Hewitt wrote:
Your logic seems to go something like this: “Boo f****ing hoo, I’m a smoker but government taxes on smokes make them expensive, so f*** the government”. Well here’s a news flash, it’s not all about you.
No NO NO!!! Your not getting the point at all. To me, this seems to be an abuse of power, it's outrageous, it's unconstitutional and a form of harassment, oppression and discrimination. It's absolutely despicable to say the very least!!! We smokers need to take a stand NOW! This has gone beyond too far, it's way over the top and it's got to stop!
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Do a Google search on "cost of smoking on the healthcare system"; do some reading and get a clue.
Steve
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Stephen Hewitt wrote:
Your logic seems to go something like this: “Boo f****ing hoo, I’m a smoker but government taxes on smokes make them expensive, so f*** the government”. Well here’s a news flash, it’s not all about you.
No NO NO!!! Your not getting the point at all. To me, this seems to be an abuse of power, it's outrageous, it's unconstitutional and a form of harassment, oppression and discrimination. It's absolutely despicable to say the very least!!! We smokers need to take a stand NOW! This has gone beyond too far, it's way over the top and it's got to stop!
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Captain See Sharp wrote:
To me, this seems to be an abuse of power, it's outrageous, it's unconstitutional and a form of harassment, oppression and discrimination. It's absolutely despicable to say the very least!!! We smokers need to take a stand NOW! This has gone beyond too far, it's way over the top and it's got to stop!
Pure comedy, dont stop now
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Do a Google search on "cost of smoking on the healthcare system"; do some reading and get a clue.
Steve
Stephen Hewitt wrote:
Do a Google search on "cost of smoking on the healthcare system"; do some reading and get a clue.
In America you pay your own medical bills for the most part. If you end up in the hospital for lung cancer then you will pay for it. If you don't have insurance or the money to pay it then you will be in debt and/or loose your home and vehicle(s) *IF* you choose to receive medical treatment.. YOU are the one who needs to get a clue. You still are not understanding the big issue. Its not about health care! I don't give a shit about health care, its a fucking joke and I will not put money into it, I will not buy health insurance. If I get sick enough to die, then I will cease to exist. Its going to happen regardless and I would rather have enough money to have a nice computer and have plenty of food and comforts to make life enjoyable. They are going to start taxing caffeine, sugar, and fat. They will do anything to justify it and make fools like you and Josh Faggot Gay to support it.
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Stephen Hewitt wrote:
Do a Google search on "cost of smoking on the healthcare system"; do some reading and get a clue.
In America you pay your own medical bills for the most part. If you end up in the hospital for lung cancer then you will pay for it. If you don't have insurance or the money to pay it then you will be in debt and/or loose your home and vehicle(s) *IF* you choose to receive medical treatment.. YOU are the one who needs to get a clue. You still are not understanding the big issue. Its not about health care! I don't give a shit about health care, its a fucking joke and I will not put money into it, I will not buy health insurance. If I get sick enough to die, then I will cease to exist. Its going to happen regardless and I would rather have enough money to have a nice computer and have plenty of food and comforts to make life enjoyable. They are going to start taxing caffeine, sugar, and fat. They will do anything to justify it and make fools like you and Josh Faggot Gay to support it.
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Captain See Sharp wrote:
Its not about health care! I don't give a sh*t about health care, its a f****ing joke and I will not put money into it, I will not buy health insurance. If I get sick enough to die, then I will cease to exist. Its going to happen regardless and I would rather have enough money to have a nice computer and have plenty of food and comforts to make life enjoyable
Gold!! Keep it coming.
Captain See Sharp wrote:
Josh Faggot Gay
:) Even you should be able to do better than that little Joshy
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Im a smoker too and while I'd rather have free ciggies Im happy for the government to tax it. We are responsible for our own addictions and should pay the cost of them Im also happy that our government tax petrol. That way the people that make the most use of our roads pay the majority of the cost of maintaining them
Josh Gray wrote:
Im a smoker too and while I'd rather have free ciggies Im happy for the government to tax it. We are responsible for our own addictions and should pay the cost of them Im also happy that our government tax petrol. That way the people that make the most use of our roads pay the majority of the cost of maintaining them
oh
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Josh Gray wrote:
Im a smoker too and while I'd rather have free ciggies Im happy for the government to tax it. We are responsible for our own addictions and should pay the cost of them Im also happy that our government tax petrol. That way the people that make the most use of our roads pay the majority of the cost of maintaining them
oh
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Josh Gray wrote:
G'day Heinie jnr
How dare you insult me!
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Josh Gray wrote:
G'day Heinie jnr
How dare you insult me!
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Stephen Hewitt wrote:
Do a Google search on "cost of smoking on the healthcare system"; do some reading and get a clue.
In America you pay your own medical bills for the most part. If you end up in the hospital for lung cancer then you will pay for it. If you don't have insurance or the money to pay it then you will be in debt and/or loose your home and vehicle(s) *IF* you choose to receive medical treatment.. YOU are the one who needs to get a clue. You still are not understanding the big issue. Its not about health care! I don't give a shit about health care, its a fucking joke and I will not put money into it, I will not buy health insurance. If I get sick enough to die, then I will cease to exist. Its going to happen regardless and I would rather have enough money to have a nice computer and have plenty of food and comforts to make life enjoyable. They are going to start taxing caffeine, sugar, and fat. They will do anything to justify it and make fools like you and Josh Faggot Gay to support it.
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You seriously believe that smoking doesn’t increase the cost of healthcare (and yes, I know the U.S. healthcare system blows chunks and it rejects a more enlightened publicly funded philosophy) and you think I’m the one without a clue? But for arguments sake lets assume your point is valid. What do you think are the social ramifications of someone losing their “home” because they can’t afford cancer treatment? What about the effect on their family? What are the effects on children when one of their parents ceases to exit? I reiterate – get a clue.
Steve
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You seriously believe that smoking doesn’t increase the cost of healthcare (and yes, I know the U.S. healthcare system blows chunks and it rejects a more enlightened publicly funded philosophy) and you think I’m the one without a clue? But for arguments sake lets assume your point is valid. What do you think are the social ramifications of someone losing their “home” because they can’t afford cancer treatment? What about the effect on their family? What are the effects on children when one of their parents ceases to exit? I reiterate – get a clue.
Steve
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What is it you downt understand? I am an animal and I will blow everyone's heads off and beat on my chest and marray muh cuzzin. Im jsut a stupid american hick.:rolleyes:
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You are crap at arguing. You didn't address a single point in my comment or progress the debate in any way. Instead you deflect the discourse (clumsily) down some childish and unrelated path.
Steve
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Does your brothers fascination with homosexuality stem from you two sharing a room at some time?
Josh Gray wrote:
Does your brothers fascination with homosexuality stem from you two sharing a room at some time?
Homofuckshit fart ass shit fuck fuck shit fuck diareah on teh bed sheets oh yeah I am so fascitnated with getting shit all over my dick from a bearded ugly fuck. Homosexuals shouldn't even exist, you wish I was fascinated with your kind. The homosexuals go to developersfusion's chitchat forum, you don't belong here.
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You are crap at arguing. You didn't address a single point in my comment or progress the debate in any way. Instead you deflect the discourse (clumsily) down some childish and unrelated path.
Steve
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Thats because you can't comprehend what I have to say to you. I have too many thoughts for you to take in and they cannot be expressed with text or words simply.
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Captain See Sharp wrote:
Thats because you can't comprehend what I have to say to you. I have too many thoughts for you to take in and they cannot be expressed with text or words simply.
Ahh, the old "I appear so dumb because I'm so smart" defense. Give me a break. If you're so smart argue the point intelligently. When someone replies to one of your comments make counter arguments that make sense and counter their points.
Steve
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Josh Gray wrote:
Does your brothers fascination with homosexuality stem from you two sharing a room at some time?
Homofuckshit fart ass shit fuck fuck shit fuck diareah on teh bed sheets oh yeah I am so fascitnated with getting shit all over my dick from a bearded ugly fuck. Homosexuals shouldn't even exist, you wish I was fascinated with your kind. The homosexuals go to developersfusion's chitchat forum, you don't belong here.
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Captain See Sharp wrote:
Homofuckshit fart ass sh*t f*** f*** sh*t f*** diareah on teh bed sheets oh yeah I am so fascitnated with getting sh*t all over my dick from a bearded ugly f***. Homosexuals shouldn't even exist, you wish I was fascinated with your kind. The homosexuals go to developersfusion's chitchat forum, you don't belong here.
:) Did the big bad aussie push your buttons again?
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Captain See Sharp wrote:
Thats because you can't comprehend what I have to say to you. I have too many thoughts for you to take in and they cannot be expressed with text or words simply.
Ahh, the old "I appear so dumb because I'm so smart" defense. Give me a break. If you're so smart argue the point intelligently. When someone replies to one of your comments make counter arguments that make sense and counter their points.
Steve
Stephen Hewitt wrote:
Ahh, the old "I appear so dumb because I'm so smart" defense.
No, its just because you are too stupid to understand.
Stephen Hewitt wrote:
Give me a break.
Go smoke.
Stephen Hewitt wrote:
If you're so smart argue the point intelligently.
I don't feel like writing a book just to make a point. There are so many things that need to be said about it. It needs to be organized (not in conversation form) and requires more text than I feel like typing.
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Stephen Hewitt wrote:
Ahh, the old "I appear so dumb because I'm so smart" defense.
No, its just because you are too stupid to understand.
Stephen Hewitt wrote:
Give me a break.
Go smoke.
Stephen Hewitt wrote:
If you're so smart argue the point intelligently.
I don't feel like writing a book just to make a point. There are so many things that need to be said about it. It needs to be organized (not in conversation form) and requires more text than I feel like typing.
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Captain See Sharp wrote:
I don't feel like writing a book just to make a point. There are so many things that need to be said about it. It needs to be organized (not in conversation form) and requires more text than I feel like typing.
O to think such grand thoughts.
Steve