DVD DRM row sparks user rebellion
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Michael Dunn wrote:
That's what RIAA and MPAA want you to think. Removing DRM != stealing
So I guess you won't mind at all if I remove any and all limitations from PimpFish, and freely distribute it to whomever I please for no charge and with no compensation to you. Plus, I'll have your complete blessing to reverse engineer it, and include its functionality in MY application, also with no compensation to you.
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Michael Dunn wrote:
That's what RIAA and MPAA want you to think. Removing DRM != stealing
So I guess you won't mind at all if I remove any and all limitations from PimpFish, and freely distribute it to whomever I please for no charge and with no compensation to you. Plus, I'll have your complete blessing to reverse engineer it, and include its functionality in MY application, also with no compensation to you.
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You seem to lack general reading comprehension skills. Nobody has said anything (that I've read) about copying DVD's. The guy that first hacked the DRM says he did it because he bought an HD-DVD that wouldn't play on the equipment he already owned. An "approved hardware" list for being able to watch a DVD is absolutely ridiculous.
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Michael Dunn wrote:
That's what RIAA and MPAA want you to think. Removing DRM != stealing
So I guess you won't mind at all if I remove any and all limitations from PimpFish, and freely distribute it to whomever I please for no charge and with no compensation to you. Plus, I'll have your complete blessing to reverse engineer it, and include its functionality in MY application, also with no compensation to you.
-------------------------------- "All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing" -- Edmund Burke
Richie308 wrote:
So I guess you won't mind at all if I remove any and all limitations from PimpFish
So PimpFish wont be limited to being a browser plugin?:laugh: What limitations would you remove? I'm sure Michael Dunn would love to get some insight on the limitations of Pimpfish and how you think they could be removed.:-D You seem confused. PimpFish is not some media content you purchased that requires a special hardware device to decrypt it.
Richie308 wrote:
and freely distribute it to whomever I please for no charge and with no compensation to you.
This obvously has nothing to do with DRM. I think you are confusing pirating with removing DRM.
Richie308 wrote:
Plus, I'll have your complete blessing to reverse engineer it, and include its functionality in MY application, also with no compensation to you.
Again this is pirating that your talking about. Removing DRM = Decrypting your media Decrypting your media != pirating Thanks.
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I agree. They are fighting the wrong people and forcing them into a very difficult position. I hope digg doesn't get too screwed over this.
I agree. It's unfair to Digg that its own users put it in a state where it can be prosecuted.
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While this "rebellion" was taking place last night, all I could think of was this[^].
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OH! That's below the belt!
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Shog9 wrote:
i'm not wearing a collar
And let's just stop there. God only knows where this could go from here, illegal immigrants, HD video, IP infringement, Mike's PimpFish software...it's enough to make my entire moral world view quake on it's foundation! Oh the sordid web we weave...
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Playing Devils advocate here but DRM has no little or no effect on piracy, in a sense they are trying to lock the door after the horse has bolted - Go onto any torrent network and see the millions of people online to prove it. In the end DRM just impacts on legitimate consumers (as in the article), without raising a sweat on the illegitimate ISO buffs. Corps like the RIAA just promote bad feeling, scare tactics and confusion.
:~ I have what may be a reaaaally dumb question. Is there any way to make the media used, free to use any type of player and yet NOT be copied? :confused: If that were so it might limit some of the problems from both ends. ;) I don't know if it is possible or not. Maybe somebody with a lot more experience in this area might think about looking into the subject. :sigh: Just my one and one half cents worth. :laugh: P.S. - By the way the name calling is Sooooo childish. Theoretically we're all adults here (Although some seem to be more than others). :rolleyes:
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:~ I have what may be a reaaaally dumb question. Is there any way to make the media used, free to use any type of player and yet NOT be copied? :confused: If that were so it might limit some of the problems from both ends. ;) I don't know if it is possible or not. Maybe somebody with a lot more experience in this area might think about looking into the subject. :sigh: Just my one and one half cents worth. :laugh: P.S. - By the way the name calling is Sooooo childish. Theoretically we're all adults here (Although some seem to be more than others). :rolleyes:
Not really, as I understand it all DRM can hope to do is limit the options available by: - Encrypting the media, requiring license to decrypt - Degrading the media, so after a few copies it becomes unwatchable - Creating new media formats which only play on protected hardware (as per subject of this post) Theoretically as long as you can input the media into a PC, there will always be a way to copy it to a non-DRM format - PC's are open framework by nature. But then again why would you not want to copy media? Think MP3\video players, backups, etc - Its sensible in some cases to make copies of media, but it leaves the system open to abuse. My own theory is that certain software, CD's, and DVD's are overpriced - Particularly 'classics' per se - If the media companies were to drop their prices then there would be less incentive to pirate as there would be less commercial value in it.
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I agree. It's unfair to Digg that its own users put it in a state where it can be prosecuted.
WiseHacker wrote:
I agree. It's unfair to Digg that its own users put it in a state where it can be prosecuted
Unfair nothing! Digg's business model is built on user-contributed content; if Digg doesn't like what users are posting, they have two choices:
- Allow the undesirable posts to continue and keep the user community happy 2) Restrict/delete the undesirable posts and live with the consequences of an unhappy user community that happens to drive their revenue
Digg made a choice about how to handle the situation, and they will have to deal with the consequences
- Allow the undesirable posts to continue and keep the user community happy 2) Restrict/delete the undesirable posts and live with the consequences of an unhappy user community that happens to drive their revenue
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No, I've just exposed the double standard of some people who make their livings via intellectual property, yet who disrespect the IP rights of others.
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Richie308 wrote:
No, I've just exposed the double standard of some people who make their livings via intellectual property, yet who disrespect the IP rights of others.
You mean like the way the entertainment industry disrepects my fair-use rights?
