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  • V Virtual Coder

    They did it again: As part of the agreement, Dell will purchase SUSE Linux* Enterprise Server certificates from Microsoft and establish a services and marketing program to migrate existing Linux users who are not Dell Linux customers to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server.[^] :wtf:

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    David Wulff
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    Why the :wtf:, isn't this good news?


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      Why the :wtf:, isn't this good news?


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      El Corazon
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      David Wulff wrote:

      Why the , isn't this good news?

      I think because of the comment that Microsoft is licensing Linux to someone.

      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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        Why the :wtf:, isn't this good news?


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        Lost User
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        David Wulff wrote:

        isn't this good news?

        I have no opinion of good or bad in this case, but it still seems odd reading that Microsoft is essentially selling Linux licenses. No?

        "I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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        • V Virtual Coder

          They did it again: As part of the agreement, Dell will purchase SUSE Linux* Enterprise Server certificates from Microsoft and establish a services and marketing program to migrate existing Linux users who are not Dell Linux customers to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server.[^] :wtf:

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          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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          That sounds so wrong. :wtf:

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          • E El Corazon

            David Wulff wrote:

            Why the , isn't this good news?

            I think because of the comment that Microsoft is licensing Linux to someone.

            _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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            David Wulff
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            I thought the Novel deal was licensing IP and interoperability, not Linux itself?


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            • V Virtual Coder

              They did it again: As part of the agreement, Dell will purchase SUSE Linux* Enterprise Server certificates from Microsoft and establish a services and marketing program to migrate existing Linux users who are not Dell Linux customers to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server.[^] :wtf:

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              Jim Crafton
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              I thought Dell was going to use Ubuntu on the new systems?

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                I thought Dell was going to use Ubuntu on the new systems?

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                David Wulff
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                They are, for home users. This news is for enterprise users.


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                • J Jim Crafton

                  I thought Dell was going to use Ubuntu on the new systems?

                  ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                  Lost User
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                  Jim Crafton wrote:

                  I thought Dell was going to use Ubuntu on the new systems?

                  I think Dell will be offering Ubuntu on desktop machines only.

                  "I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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                  • V Virtual Coder

                    They did it again: As part of the agreement, Dell will purchase SUSE Linux* Enterprise Server certificates from Microsoft and establish a services and marketing program to migrate existing Linux users who are not Dell Linux customers to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server.[^] :wtf:

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                    Ray Kinsella
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                    Funny 'cos Micheal Dell is running Ubuntu at home[^]

                    Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch

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                    • V Virtual Coder

                      They did it again: As part of the agreement, Dell will purchase SUSE Linux* Enterprise Server certificates from Microsoft and establish a services and marketing program to migrate existing Linux users who are not Dell Linux customers to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server.[^] :wtf:

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                      KevinMac
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                      There is just no place for a self respecting MS hater to go any more Linux, Open Source who knows whats next. :)

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                      • V Virtual Coder

                        They did it again: As part of the agreement, Dell will purchase SUSE Linux* Enterprise Server certificates from Microsoft and establish a services and marketing program to migrate existing Linux users who are not Dell Linux customers to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server.[^] :wtf:

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                        ed welch
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                        All pigs in position and ready to take off

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                        • V Virtual Coder

                          They did it again: As part of the agreement, Dell will purchase SUSE Linux* Enterprise Server certificates from Microsoft and establish a services and marketing program to migrate existing Linux users who are not Dell Linux customers to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server.[^] :wtf:

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                          Member 96
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                          I *love* it, the irony...the irony. This is promising, I think Microsoft should build thier own distro of linux and become the leading distribution in the world. Anything to see those slash dotters and Stallmans of the world run around like headless chickens crying "the sky is falling" would be worth it.


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                          • L Lost User

                            David Wulff wrote:

                            isn't this good news?

                            I have no opinion of good or bad in this case, but it still seems odd reading that Microsoft is essentially selling Linux licenses. No?

                            "I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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                            El Corazon
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                            Mike Mullikin wrote:

                            odd reading that Microsoft is essentially selling Linux licenses.

                            why would they turn down selling any Licenses? :-D They are a profit shop, idealy they would sell anything they can get away with. That's business.

                            _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                              All pigs in position and ready to take off

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                              El Corazon
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                              I made the mistake of saying I would eat my hat when Apple went Intel.... X| leather is tough, all I could do was gnaw a bit.

                              _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                              • E El Corazon

                                Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                odd reading that Microsoft is essentially selling Linux licenses.

                                why would they turn down selling any Licenses? :-D They are a profit shop, idealy they would sell anything they can get away with. That's business.

                                _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                l a u r e n
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                                so it is you ... why did you change ur name if i may ask? or did that conversation happen already and i missed it?

                                "there is no spoon" {me}

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                                • E El Corazon

                                  Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                  odd reading that Microsoft is essentially selling Linux licenses.

                                  why would they turn down selling any Licenses? :-D They are a profit shop, idealy they would sell anything they can get away with. That's business.

                                  _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                  Lost User
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                                  El Corazon wrote:

                                  They are a profit shop, idealy they would sell anything they can get away with. That's business.

                                  Maybe, but as a rule Toyota dealers don't sell new Hondas. ;)

                                  "I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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                                  • V Virtual Coder

                                    They did it again: As part of the agreement, Dell will purchase SUSE Linux* Enterprise Server certificates from Microsoft and establish a services and marketing program to migrate existing Linux users who are not Dell Linux customers to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server.[^] :wtf:

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                                    Christopher Duncan
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                                    ...a cold day[^]

                                    Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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                                      El Corazon wrote:

                                      They are a profit shop, idealy they would sell anything they can get away with. That's business.

                                      Maybe, but as a rule Toyota dealers don't sell new Hondas. ;)

                                      "I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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                                      El Corazon
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                                      Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                      Maybe, but as a rule Toyota dealers don't sell new Hondas.

                                      Perhaps if you look at it that way... but Mercury cars are made from Fords, Fords use entire engines and sometimes drive-trains from imports. So although your example is true, the subject matter holds similar concepts with car-makers relabling other manufacturers products, or using large chunks of licensed hardware to be included in other cars. Generally you don't know until there is a recall. You find a recall on energizer batteries also recalls a half-dozen generics because Energizer was making the batteries that were relabled and sold under other brands. This is very common in non-software markets, very common indeed. :)

                                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                        Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                        Maybe, but as a rule Toyota dealers don't sell new Hondas.

                                        Perhaps if you look at it that way... but Mercury cars are made from Fords, Fords use entire engines and sometimes drive-trains from imports. So although your example is true, the subject matter holds similar concepts with car-makers relabling other manufacturers products, or using large chunks of licensed hardware to be included in other cars. Generally you don't know until there is a recall. You find a recall on energizer batteries also recalls a half-dozen generics because Energizer was making the batteries that were relabled and sold under other brands. This is very common in non-software markets, very common indeed. :)

                                        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                        Lost User
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                                        El Corazon wrote:

                                        but Mercury cars are made from Fords, Fords use entire engines and sometimes drive-trains from imports.

                                        But in these examples Ford either fully or partially owns the others. Remember it wasn't too long ago that Mr. Balmer was saying all manner of rude things about open-source in general and Linux in particular. Personally, I think Microsoft's fear of Google has made them re-evaluate their position.

                                        "I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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                                          Ray Kinsella
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                                          Remember what they are monetising here, they are selling machines not operating systems, do they really care (outside of support I suppose) what people run on their machines?

                                          Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch

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